BF2S Forums Will Obama get a second term?

imortal wrote:

I think it is WAY too early to be talking about a second term, when he hasn't even gotten to his second year yet.

Shit...he's barely into his second quarter.

Ask this question again in 2011.

If PBO brings in national healthcare he'll get re-elected... easily. In fact, he really does have a one issue presidency in my mind and that's national health care because it will have longest lasting most positive impact in everyones lives and the first president that royally screws over big health insurance companies will probably have libraries, aircraft carriers, memorials and babies named after him.

But if he fails to deliver in his first term then it means he is full of it and I'll pull the ticket the other way.

Let me remind everyone, we are the country that gave an retarded child with a dream and a president father a second term as well.

Diesel_dyk wrote:

If PBO brings in national healthcare he'll get re-elected... easily. In fact, he really does have a one issue presidency in my mind and that's national health care because it will have longest lasting most positive impact in everyones lives and the first president that royally screws over big health insurance companies will probably have libraries, aircraft carriers, memorials and babies named after him.

But if he fails to deliver in his first term then it means he is full of it and I'll pull the ticket the other way.

That would never happen. Obama can talk, but he doesn't do shit. Hell the only dem who really wants to impliment national healthcare is sold out anyway. O put gave her "missions" outside the country so she'll busy enough not to try to lobby for national healthcare.

For all you Americans, nationalizing healthcare would actually be cheaper then paying it privately. Cutting corruption from health insurances. Yeh, like socializing healthcare is the worst thing in the world :rollseyes: Hell, my mom makes around 30k usd (way higher then the average taiwanese) and pays only 20% taxes and everybody gets public healthcare. The only reason that it'll expensive BECAUSE YOU FUCKERS SHOULD EAT HEALTHIER AND DROP THAT BIG MAC. Obama isn't a fucking socialist if you right wing bastards claim he is, he's the same shit as cheney, just does shit differently. Bailing out the biggest corps? That isn't socialism, that's fascism. Socialism is when you give money to the people, not the companies. Trickle down economy my ass. Rich gets richer, and the poor get poorer.

Spark wrote:

How about we wait longer than three months (not even a tenth of his term) before we see, eh?

I reckon I have seen enough to not want him to have a second run at it.

Cybargs wrote:

Obama isn't a fucking socialist if you right wing bastards claim he is, he's the same shit as cheney, just does shit differently. Bailing out the biggest corps? That isn't socialism, that's fascism. Socialism is when you give money to the people, not the companies. Trickle down economy my ass. Rich gets richer, and the poor get poorer.

You don't think this is away to nationalize large corporations and banking institutions.  Not a way gaining more control of the economy.  Not a way to make people and companies more dependent on an all powerful central government.  :rollseyes:

Compared to where this country was founded and what the Constitution was based on, we are far from where we should be.  The central government was never meant to have the kind of control and impact that it has now. 

I love it when those from different countries try to tell us it is ok for our leaders to be going against the very things that made our country as great as it is/was.

Last edited by LividBovine (2009-05-12 03:04:47)

Too early to say, but ask me now and I say no.

As for Brown, he has no chance.  The recent 'MP's Expenses' facade has been the final nail in the coffin for this Labour government.

LividBovine wrote:

Spark wrote:

How about we wait longer than three months (not even a tenth of his term) before we see, eh?

I reckon I have seen enough to not want him to have a second run at it.

Cybargs wrote:

Obama isn't a fucking socialist if you right wing bastards claim he is, he's the same shit as cheney, just does shit differently. Bailing out the biggest corps? That isn't socialism, that's fascism. Socialism is when you give money to the people, not the companies. Trickle down economy my ass. Rich gets richer, and the poor get poorer.

You don't think this is away to nationalize large corporations and banking institutions.  Not a way gaining more control of the economy.  Not a way to make people and companies more dependent on an all powerful central government.  :rollseyes:

Compared to where this country was founded and what the Constitution was based on, we are far from where we should be.  The central government was never meant to have the kind of control and impact that it has now. 

I love it when those from different countries try to tell us it is ok for our leaders to be going against the very things that made our country as great as it is/was.

That would be facism... you know the far right. Very different to Socialism.

LividBovine wrote:

Spark wrote:

How about we wait longer than three months (not even a tenth of his term) before we see, eh?

I reckon I have seen enough to not want him to have a second run at it.

Cybargs wrote:

Obama isn't a fucking socialist if you right wing bastards claim he is, he's the same shit as cheney, just does shit differently. Bailing out the biggest corps? That isn't socialism, that's fascism. Socialism is when you give money to the people, not the companies. Trickle down economy my ass. Rich gets richer, and the poor get poorer.

You don't think this is away to nationalize large corporations and banking institutions.  Not a way gaining more control of the economy.  Not a way to make people and companies more dependent on an all powerful central government.  :rollseyes:

Compared to where this country was founded and what the Constitution was based on, we are far from where we should be.  The central government was never meant to have the kind of control and impact that it has now. 

I love it when those from different countries try to tell us it is ok for our leaders to be going against the very things that made our country as great as it is/was.

It's not like the companies go don't bail us out. They requested it. They can turn down the money if they want to.

And your example is Facism... not socialism.

FDR did a lot of things that was deemed unconstitutional as well, he pretty much saved the US economy despite criticism.

Dilbert_X wrote:

nickb64 wrote:

Cutting taxes gives the people more money to spend, and that leads to them being able to spend more on goods to help themselves and also help businesses.

Except those goods are imported more likely than not, so doesn't really help your economy.
Taxing and investing to give people jobs and your nation a competitive advantage does make sense.

Word.

In the end its just spending more money on large business'.

But it does help the local economy though.

To early to say, to be honest. A lot can happen in three and a half years.

DrunkFace wrote:

LividBovine wrote:

Spark wrote:

How about we wait longer than three months (not even a tenth of his term) before we see, eh?

I reckon I have seen enough to not want him to have a second run at it.

Cybargs wrote:

Obama isn't a fucking socialist if you right wing bastards claim he is, he's the same shit as cheney, just does shit differently. Bailing out the biggest corps? That isn't socialism, that's fascism. Socialism is when you give money to the people, not the companies. Trickle down economy my ass. Rich gets richer, and the poor get poorer.

You don't think this is away to nationalize large corporations and banking institutions.  Not a way gaining more control of the economy.  Not a way to make people and companies more dependent on an all powerful central government.  :rollseyes:

Compared to where this country was founded and what the Constitution was based on, we are far from where we should be.  The central government was never meant to have the kind of control and impact that it has now. 

I love it when those from different countries try to tell us it is ok for our leaders to be going against the very things that made our country as great as it is/was.

That would be facism... you know the far right. Very different to Socialism.

In reality, the political scale works like this:

Far Left: Authoritarian/Full Gov't Control System-----------------------------------------------------US Constitution--------Articles Of Confederation---Far Right: Anarchy/No Gov't

If the economy continues to recover and there isn't a major terrorist attack then yes he would be more or less guaranteed a second term. If the economy takes a total swing south and we're all in the poor house or we have a 9/11 part 2 then he would not be reelected.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Obama is black and him being president makes me feel good about myself.

How could anyone vote against, " Yes We Can "

pff you're white your opinion is irrelevant.