So now you want to store the whole internet? You can survive without porn, reaps.AussieReaper wrote:
Quick, we're going to store the internet onto some dvds!some_random_panda wrote:
Silly reaps, CDs aren't magnetic. They're not efficient, but DVDs and CDs won't be affected by magnetic fields.
Better use blu-ray.
lol.. you think I'm saying that it won't be an inconvenience? You said your banking details are going to be lost. Big difference.AussieReaper wrote:
I think your missing the point. Transaction data is entirely different to static state data. You will lose that data once everything is turned off. And just turning stuff off and using off-site backups are not going to be much use should a solar super storm hit, and the area is of such a wide state. Backing up data is simply magnetic.Kmarion wrote:
Sounds all very absurd and y2kish. Btw we learned how to write data to disk a few decades ago. It's not excatly late breaking news. If you think your data isn't backed up physically (and off site) your kidding yourself. Do you realize that these system have lost power before? If your bank isn't doing what nearly everybody learned 30 years ago then celebrate your financial freedom and thank their idiocy.
I didn't miss the point. You either forgot what it was or changed it when you realized you were over your head. There is an entire industry devoted to EM protection. Have you ever been inside of a major data center? Btw this happens every 11 years.
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yeah gay I seen the movie 2, but yea in real life theory they the scientists say the solar super storm wont affect us only the technologymafia996630 wrote:
I just skipped to the ending of the film, the aliens take some kid and the earth is destroyed.
yeah everything all the satellites would be lost. countries that rely on technology would die, nonetheless countries like Afghanistan and others who dont rely on technology that much might flourishAussieReaper wrote:
How many banking transactions do you think are currently taking place in your state? How many of those transactions do you think are to do with automated payroll services, superannuation, etc? If there is any power loss there is data loss. It's that simple.Kmarion wrote:
A few hours? Jesus Christ It'll be like 200 years ago (for a few hours) HOW WILL WE SURVIVE.. oh the horror! Those poor elderly's will have to learn the miracle of fire (for a few hours). Banking data lost... holy schnitt, cause everybody knows when you turn off a computer everything disappears.
This isn't just flicking a switch off to your computer. You are switching off everything. Routers. Databases. Not all the information they hold is static, either.
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yea and the article states that the solar wind will kill or overwhelm all of the grids thus killing all of the electricity on this planet... so no electricity, no power, no satellites no thing no way to backup data all its lost for rich countries
It would basically destroy the transformers in the grid mainly, if we can predict exactly when it'll happen and then switch off the transformers then you could restrict alot of the damage it would cause
A powerful magnetic field can drive current without a generatorMekstizzle wrote:
It would basically destroy the transformers in the grid mainly, if we can predict exactly when it'll happen and then switch off the transformers then you could restrict alot of the damage it would cause
This was pretty much what I thought when I read it. The article cites an example of a crude telescope seeing the emission in 1859, and then the even occurring 2 days later...I'm sure with modern technology, we'll see it occurring and know when to take measures. The important thing is to consider possible plans of action early, so that damage control mechanisms can be put in place in a timely manner.Mekstizzle wrote:
It would basically destroy the transformers in the grid mainly, if we can predict exactly when it'll happen and then switch off the transformers then you could restrict alot of the damage it would cause
But from what I've seen in a couple of programs, there really are cosmic factors at work that could lead to such a disaster, such as how our solar system aligns in the Milky Way, in regards to the suspected black hole in the center; and then how the Milky Way itself may align around an even more massive super black hole that galaxies swirl around...lots of complex factors affect the magnetic field of the sun itself, which in turn determines the degree of solar activity/storms. I saw a show in the past year with a lot of notable experts in the field of astrophysics/astronomy/etc. saying that many factors causing increased solar storms will coincide in late 2012, and the possibility of a true solar superstorm is very possible.
/waiting for Lythberg to expand everyone's minds with Science.
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As far as I know, the sun's magnetic field is only slightly stronger than that of earth (1^-11 Tesla, with recorded peaks of 1^-9), while we on earth have generated fields in excess of 800 Tesla. I'm not sure to what degree our satellites are shielded form magnetic fields (probably not at all good ol' American foresight)-CARNIFEX-[LOC] wrote:
/waiting for Lythberg to expand everyone's minds with Science.
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Quick! All to Cheyenne Mountain!
Darn, we'll still have to fail at hosting the Olympics, then. Can't they make it happen in June or something?
Wouldn't another issue be the generators? If the load suddenly lessened, the generators would either go into emergency shutdown or be damaged, further complicating the power issue. Remember the 2003 blackoutMekstizzle wrote:
It would basically destroy the transformers in the grid mainly, if we can predict exactly when it'll happen and then switch off the transformers then you could restrict alot of the damage it would cause
Maybe the Olympics is the cause!liquidat0r wrote:
Darn, we'll still have to fail at hosting the Olympics, then. Can't they make it happen in June or something?
/conspiracy theory
Btw, how many different disasters for 2012 are we expecting now? There seems to be a new one each month or so.
I reckon the Mayans was it? Just ran out of paper at 2012 when they were making up that calender.
Elaborate on that one. I'm not a religious man, nor have I read the bible, I thought it talked about angels and such?Flecco wrote:
Angels in the religious sense don't exist.
Nature is a powerful force. Those who seek to subdue nature, never do so permanently.
This is an interesting peice, taken from a review of the book, The Orion Prophecy regarding 2012:
I'm currently reading the book by Robert Bauval, called 'The Orion Mystery' In it, Bauval writes about the connection with the three pyramids at Giza and their alignment with the three stars in the belt of Orion. Also, he points out that the shafts in the kings chamber was aligned with the first star in Orions belt as well. And, he refers to the Pyramid Texts, in their literal translations, the Egyptians believed their Pharaohs accented the heavens and became a star in the constellation of Orion.
All very interesting to me.
http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/orp.htmThe next step was to try and find The Labyrinth, since Slosman indicated that the Atlanteans built this huge building in order to store all their astronomical and cataclysm-calculating knowledge.
Gino followed the lead of Robert Bauval, and laid a sky-map over a map of Egypt, lining up Orion's belt with the 3 Giza pyramids. The temple of Dendera was found to correspond to the star Deneb; Esna temple corresponded to the star Altair; the Hawara area corresponded to the position of the Hyades, and Hawara pyramid corresponded to the star Aldebaran. The Hyades are known to astronomers as...the Labyrinth! What is more, this place is exactly where an explorer called Lespius claimed that the Labyrinth had once been.
After visiting Egypt, the pair confirmed that Dendera has an association with Deneb, and also that all the signs reported by Herodotus, who had visited the Labyrinth, showed that Hawara was the location, but that it was not destroyed, but buried right there, beneath the water table, and that Lespius had not dug deep enough! However, it would take a lot of funding to excavate under the water table.
I'm currently reading the book by Robert Bauval, called 'The Orion Mystery' In it, Bauval writes about the connection with the three pyramids at Giza and their alignment with the three stars in the belt of Orion. Also, he points out that the shafts in the kings chamber was aligned with the first star in Orions belt as well. And, he refers to the Pyramid Texts, in their literal translations, the Egyptians believed their Pharaohs accented the heavens and became a star in the constellation of Orion.
All very interesting to me.
Nature is a powerful force. Those who seek to subdue nature, never do so permanently.
I bet nothing out of ordinary happens in 2012.
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I would assume that newer satellites - hopefully those designed/launched post-1989 major solar event - would have at least some degree of shielding, but who knows...the downsides of short-term cost-saving measures always seem to rear their ugly heads at just the wrong time.S.Lythberg wrote:
As far as I know, the sun's magnetic field is only slightly stronger than that of earth (1^-11 Tesla, with recorded peaks of 1^-9), while we on earth have generated fields in excess of 800 Tesla. I'm not sure to what degree our satellites are shielded form magnetic fields (probably not at all good ol' American foresight)
And if I remember it with any sort of clarity, the issues with the sun's magnetic field are related to how - and I am making a very crude paraphrasing attempt here - the part of the Milky Way that our solar system is in may drop below some sort of galactic plane of rotation in which all the galaxies in the universe rotate around a suspected mega black hole, which would result in the sun's magnetic field's polarity switching, which would basically cause a shitstorm of solar activity (flares, storms and the like).
Keep in mind I'm no Stephen Hawking, and the sources I am basing this on were viewed 6+ months ago. But there were definitely galactic-scale issues that they were discussing in terms of why 2012 might indeed see a catastrophic solar event.
Sarah Palin will get elected in November 2012.
Apocalypse will ensue in December 2012.
Just you watch.
Apocalypse will ensue in December 2012.
Just you watch.
You mean before she even takes office? So, it would be the fault of the outgoing administration?Poseidon wrote:
Sarah Palin will get elected in November 2012.
Apocalypse will ensue in December 2012.
Just you watch.
Actually, I believe they are shielded pretty well. During peaks of solar activity, they are generally either unaffected or temporarily affected. I don't think we've ever lost a satellite from solar activity.S.Lythberg wrote:
As far as I know, the sun's magnetic field is only slightly stronger than that of earth (1^-11 Tesla, with recorded peaks of 1^-9), while we on earth have generated fields in excess of 800 Tesla. I'm not sure to what degree our satellites are shielded form magnetic fields (probably not at all good ol' American foresight)-CARNIFEX-[LOC] wrote:
/waiting for Lythberg to expand everyone's minds with Science.
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Well I believe the civlisation that existed before the Great Flood was very advanced. I was speaking with a good Christian friend of mine and he was telling me about all these wierd objects that have been found in the past that were thrown away thinking they were stupid useless items.ATG wrote:
Nothing gives scientist better funding than the latest doom scenario.op wrote:
a peak of activity - is predicted for 2012, and this is when a superstorm could strike,Because certain people make money off it.Yellowman03 wrote:
So why are we are we afraid of global warming?
That being said, there is a very good reason why we can't see much farther back in time than 7000 years. That we are the only technologically advanced people to have existed seems ridiculous to me. Maybe everything got broke and lost in time when the solar shit storm happened.
Now I wana see what that place was like!
EDIT: Just like the egyptians I mean come on, they built 3 huge pyramids facing a star billions or light years away with just their hands and a few logs to make cranes? Bullshit!
Also doesn't the rock from the Sphynx only come from a certain region on earth pretty far away from Egypt?
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Does a few times. Basically there's a few different types or levels of angels in the hierarchy of angels. All have different jobs.Im_Dooomed wrote:
Elaborate on that one. I'm not a religious man, nor have I read the bible, I thought it talked about angels and such?Flecco wrote:
Angels in the religious sense don't exist.
The most important angels were Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel etc. etc. Archangels, the most powerful agents of God's will, get all the important jobs. Like being messengers of God and such hooplah. The only ones specifically named in the Christian Bible afaik are Gaberiel and Michael I think. The rest grew out of other myths and legends including a lot of Judaism's mythology in the Eastern Orthodox Church. Don't know that much about it myself.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.