Flecco
iPod is broken.
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lowing wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

white seperatists usually make that assumption
Nope, I made that assumption based on our conversations.
That's funny. First time I spoke to him I assumed he was a white, backwater neo-con warmongering Bush supporter.


Not sure if it's possible to be further from the truth.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Bertster7
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lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

I am not pro Israel
No. You are an Islamophobe. So you side with Israel because the evil Muslims can't possibly be in the right ever.
I have no phobia ( or fear) of Islam. I simply hate it, and the reasons stack pretty fuckin' high
Yet another word you don't understand.



I was hoping for that response.

Islamophobia means prejudice against Muslims. You hate Islam. You are prejudiced against Muslims.
DonFck
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Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


No. You are an Islamophobe. So you side with Israel because the evil Muslims can't possibly be in the right ever.
I have no phobia ( or fear) of Islam. I simply hate it, and the reasons stack pretty fuckin' high
Yet another word you don't understand.



I was hoping for that response.

Islamophobia means prejudice against Muslims. You hate Islam. You are prejudiced against Muslims.
Because he's afraid. Fear -> hate -> dark side -> Darth Lowing.
I need around tree fiddy.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
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lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:


The fall under Sharia Law, and this does not see non Muslims as equals.

an example: Muslims are not allowed to vote for a Jew Jew in Parliment however a Jew can vote for a Muslim.

They are not considered equals
What's a Jew Jew?


There is discrimination under Sharia LAw as defined by the definition of apartheid.
There is no legal segregation between Jews and Muslims in Iran. It's that simple. You can rant and rave about Sharia law all you want - it doesn't change that fact.
Oi!

What the fuck's that?
I didn't write that. If I had the grammar would be much better and it would be based in fact.
Man With No Name
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lowing wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

white seperatists usually make that assumption
Nope, I made that assumption based on our conversations.
gunslinger oif ii

funny Ive been called a bleeding heart liberal and a warmongering neo con (like fleccs said) on this forum.  Ive always felt my views have been consistent. 

people think Im black, white, mexican and now muslim.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
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Man With No Name wrote:

lowing wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

white seperatists usually make that assumption
Nope, I made that assumption based on our conversations.
gunslinger oif ii

funny Ive been called a bleeding heart liberal and a warmongering neo con (like fleccs said) on this forum.  Ive always felt my views have been consistent. 

people think Im black, white, mexican and now muslim.
I think you're a scientologist.
lowing
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Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


No. You are an Islamophobe. So you side with Israel because the evil Muslims can't possibly be in the right ever.
I have no phobia ( or fear) of Islam. I simply hate it, and the reasons stack pretty fuckin' high
Yet another word you don't understand.



I was hoping for that response.

Islamophobia means prejudice against Muslims. You hate Islam. You are prejudiced against Muslims.
sighhhhhhhhh

pho⋅bi⋅a   /ˈfoʊbiə/  Show Spelled Pronunciation [foh-bee-uh]  Show IPA
–noun a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.


So under the DEFINTION if IslamoPHOBIA it would be a irrational fear of Islam.

as I stated before, I do not fear Islam, I just hate it, and the reasons are numerous.


In short phobia does not mean prejudice, and Islamophobia does not mean prejudice against Islam.


You know what I find so cute? All of you guys out there that start running out of the woodwork if there is even a minute possibility that I have mis-spoken. YOu all jump on board like rodants trying to get in a shot at my possible mistakes. Kinda flattering.


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Man With No Name
جندي
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"rodents" you dumb fuck
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6884|SE London

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:


I have no phobia ( or fear) of Islam. I simply hate it, and the reasons stack pretty fuckin' high
Yet another word you don't understand.



I was hoping for that response.

Islamophobia means prejudice against Muslims. You hate Islam. You are prejudiced against Muslims.
sighhhhhhhhh

pho⋅bi⋅a   /ˈfoʊbiə/  Show Spelled Pronunciation [foh-bee-uh]  Show IPA
–noun a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.


So under the DEFINTION if IslamoPHOBIA it would be a irrational fear of Islam.

as I stated before, I do not fear Islam, I just hate it, and the reasons are numerous.


In short phobia does not mean prejudice, and Islamophobia does not mean prejudice against Islam.


You know what I find so cute? All of you guys out there that start running out of the woodwork if there is even a minute possibility that I have mis-spoken. YOu all jump on board like rodants trying to get in a shot at my possible mistakes. Kinda flattering.


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In case you hadn't noticed lowing, Islamophobia and phobia are DIFFERENT words. As such they have DIFFERENT meanings.

Homophobia is not fear of gays. Much like Islamophobia is not fear of Muslims.

You are an Islamophobe.

You are also thick as pig shit.
Man With No Name
جندي
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pig shit could get pretty thick
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
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Islamophobia is a neologism that refers to prejudice or discrimination against Islam or Muslims
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Muslim
It includes the perception that Islam has no values in common with other cultures, is inferior to the West and is a violent political ideology rather than a religion
Sounds like you Lowing.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6967|NT, like Mick Dundee

Tone down the insults dudes it's getting out of hand.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Diesel_dyk
Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears
+178|6296|Truthistan
Israel is not an apartheid system, yet. However, they are engaging in a system of settlement similar to what the US did to the Indians. You settle the area, displace the native population, take over the area and enforce a peace by military might.

The Aparthied system is more like the system of reservations that the US and Canada had for Indians. In fact, when South africa decided to set up the apartheid system they visited Canada to view the reservation pass system where Indians where held on reserves unless they had a pass to let them leave.

Now the biggest problem Israel is going to face is Palestinian population growth. If the Palestinians have enough kids they could decide forgo a separate state and ask to be joined with Israel as full citizens and take over Israel democratically. At that point Israel might become an apartheid state, but they are not there yet. IMO that's why Israel has no choice but to move on forming a separate Palestinian state.
lowing
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Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Yet another word you don't understand.



I was hoping for that response.

Islamophobia means prejudice against Muslims. You hate Islam. You are prejudiced against Muslims.
sighhhhhhhhh

pho⋅bi⋅a   /ˈfoʊbiə/  Show Spelled Pronunciation [foh-bee-uh]  Show IPA
–noun a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.


So under the DEFINTION if IslamoPHOBIA it would be a irrational fear of Islam.

as I stated before, I do not fear Islam, I just hate it, and the reasons are numerous.


In short phobia does not mean prejudice, and Islamophobia does not mean prejudice against Islam.


You know what I find so cute? All of you guys out there that start running out of the woodwork if there is even a minute possibility that I have mis-spoken. YOu all jump on board like rodants trying to get in a shot at my possible mistakes. Kinda flattering.


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In case you hadn't noticed lowing, Islamophobia and phobia are DIFFERENT words. As such they have DIFFERENT meanings.

Homophobia is not fear of gays. Much like Islamophobia is not fear of Muslims.

You are an Islamophobe.

You are also thick as pig shit.
sighhh lets take it a bit further

phobia 
a combining form meaning “fear,” occurring in loanwords from Greek (hydrophobia); on this model, used in the names of mental disorders that have the general sense “dread of, aversion toward” that specified by the initial element: agoraphobia.

I can not help it that it has been adopted to mean prejudice. The usage is incorrect.

YOu could adopt any word you want as a term used to describe prejudice. This does not make it so or correct. PHOBIA denotes a fear. period.
mafia996630
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DrunkFace wrote:

Islamophobia is a neologism that refers to prejudice or discrimination against Islam or Muslims
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Muslim
It includes the perception that Islam has no values in common with other cultures, is inferior to the West and is a violent political ideology rather than a religion
Sounds like you Lowing.
Hard to argue with that even for lowing. Then again......wait for it.......wait for it.....
lowing
Banned
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DrunkFace wrote:

Islamophobia is a neologism that refers to prejudice or discrimination against Islam or Muslims
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Muslim
It includes the perception that Islam has no values in common with other cultures, is inferior to the West and is a violent political ideology rather than a religion
Sounds like you Lowing.
Not quite:

I do not think Islam is inferior to the west, I just don't want it in the west. I have no discriminating tendencies toward Islam, in an Islamic country, I feel they should be free to do anything they want to each other equally. In a western country they should folow the established laws of that country expecting no special consideration or treatment.

Last edited by lowing (2009-04-20 11:25:45)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6884|SE London

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

sighhhhhhhhh

pho⋅bi⋅a   /ˈfoʊbiə/  Show Spelled Pronunciation [foh-bee-uh]  Show IPA
–noun a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.


So under the DEFINTION if IslamoPHOBIA it would be a irrational fear of Islam.

as I stated before, I do not fear Islam, I just hate it, and the reasons are numerous.


In short phobia does not mean prejudice, and Islamophobia does not mean prejudice against Islam.


You know what I find so cute? All of you guys out there that start running out of the woodwork if there is even a minute possibility that I have mis-spoken. YOu all jump on board like rodants trying to get in a shot at my possible mistakes. Kinda flattering.


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In case you hadn't noticed lowing, Islamophobia and phobia are DIFFERENT words. As such they have DIFFERENT meanings.

Homophobia is not fear of gays. Much like Islamophobia is not fear of Muslims.

You are an Islamophobe.

You are also thick as pig shit.
sighhh lets take it a bit further

phobia 
a combining form meaning “fear,” occurring in loanwords from Greek (hydrophobia); on this model, used in the names of mental disorders that have the general sense “dread of, aversion toward” that specified by the initial element: agoraphobia.

I can not help it that it has been adopted to mean prejudice. The usage is incorrect.

YOu could adopt any word you want as a term used to describe prejudice. This does not make it so or correct. PHOBIA denotes a fear. period.
The usage is not incorrect lowing. You are incorrect.

It's very, very simple.

When you put two words together (shock, horror) sometimes the meanings of the constituent words change.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2009-04-20 11:24:01)

lowing
Banned
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Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


In case you hadn't noticed lowing, Islamophobia and phobia are DIFFERENT words. As such they have DIFFERENT meanings.

Homophobia is not fear of gays. Much like Islamophobia is not fear of Muslims.

You are an Islamophobe.

You are also thick as pig shit.
sighhh lets take it a bit further

phobia 
a combining form meaning “fear,” occurring in loanwords from Greek (hydrophobia); on this model, used in the names of mental disorders that have the general sense “dread of, aversion toward” that specified by the initial element: agoraphobia.

I can not help it that it has been adopted to mean prejudice. The usage is incorrect.

YOu could adopt any word you want as a term used to describe prejudice. This does not make it so or correct. PHOBIA denotes a fear. period.
The usage is not incorrect lowing. You are incorrect.

It's very, very simple.
you may wanna look up the suffix "phobia" and its proper usage for yourself then.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
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lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:


sighhhhhhhhh

pho⋅bi⋅a   /ˈfoʊbiə/  Show Spelled Pronunciation [foh-bee-uh]  Show IPA
–noun a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.


So under the DEFINTION if IslamoPHOBIA it would be a irrational fear of Islam.

as I stated before, I do not fear Islam, I just hate it, and the reasons are numerous.


In short phobia does not mean prejudice, and Islamophobia does not mean prejudice against Islam.


You know what I find so cute? All of you guys out there that start running out of the woodwork if there is even a minute possibility that I have mis-spoken. YOu all jump on board like rodants trying to get in a shot at my possible mistakes. Kinda flattering.


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In case you hadn't noticed lowing, Islamophobia and phobia are DIFFERENT words. As such they have DIFFERENT meanings.

Homophobia is not fear of gays. Much like Islamophobia is not fear of Muslims.

You are an Islamophobe.

You are also thick as pig shit.
sighhh lets take it a bit further

phobia 
a combining form meaning “fear,” occurring in loanwords from Greek (hydrophobia); on this model, used in the names of mental disorders that have the general sense “dread of, aversion toward” that specified by the initial element: agoraphobia.

I can not help it that it has been adopted to mean prejudice. The usage is incorrect.

YOu could adopt any word you want as a term used to describe prejudice. This does not make it so or correct. PHOBIA denotes a fear. period.
peado means child. Phile means to love. So the literal meaning is to love a child... Does that make pretty much any parent a peadophile?
lowing
Banned
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DrunkFace wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


In case you hadn't noticed lowing, Islamophobia and phobia are DIFFERENT words. As such they have DIFFERENT meanings.

Homophobia is not fear of gays. Much like Islamophobia is not fear of Muslims.

You are an Islamophobe.

You are also thick as pig shit.
sighhh lets take it a bit further

phobia 
a combining form meaning “fear,” occurring in loanwords from Greek (hydrophobia); on this model, used in the names of mental disorders that have the general sense “dread of, aversion toward” that specified by the initial element: agoraphobia.

I can not help it that it has been adopted to mean prejudice. The usage is incorrect.

YOu could adopt any word you want as a term used to describe prejudice. This does not make it so or correct. PHOBIA denotes a fear. period.
peado means child. Phile means to love. So the literal meaning is to love a child... Does that make pretty much any parent a peadophile?
I giess that would be determained by the word "love". Does the term love mean the act or the emotion?
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
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Suffixes with the common part -phil- (-phile, -philia, -philic) are used to specify some kind of attraction or affinity to something
lowing
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DrunkFace wrote:

Suffixes with the common part -phil- (-phile, -philia, -philic) are used to specify some kind of attraction or affinity to something
Ok so it is determained, if you are "attracted" to children, you are pretty much a pedophile. Thanks for the help.
PureFodder
Member
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The English language is not a perfectly logical language construct. Just because a word is constucted from two other words, doesn't mean the word is defined by the two words that make it.

Hence you are wrong.

p.s. don't go near any inflammable objects or your attempts at finding logic in the english language may get you hurt.
Man With No Name
جندي
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lowing is really trying to say that his version of english is more accurate than a dictionary's

Last edited by Man With No Name (2009-04-20 11:52:31)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|6953|USA

PureFodder wrote:

The English language is not a perfectly logical language construct. Just because a word is constucted from two other words, doesn't mean the word is defined by the two words that make it.

Hence you are wrong.

p.s. don't go near any inflammable objects or your attempts at finding logic in the english language may get you hurt.
I see, so a phobia is a fear UNLESS it is in the context of Islam in which case it then turns into a prejudice. Hmmmmmm, can't think of another phobia with that distinction.

no not even homophobia:

homophobia
One entry found.

   


Main Entry: ho·mo·pho·bia 
Pronunciation: \ˌhō-mə-ˈfō-bē-ə\
Function: noun
Date: 1969
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
— ho·mo·pho·bic  \-ˈfō-bik\ adjective


Sorry Berkster, wrong again:

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