Spoiler (highlight to read):DoctaStrangelove wrote:
What's wrong with that picture?
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Dude in the back-middle with the grey suit and handel-bar mustache looks like a pedophile
Spoiler (highlight to read):Kmarion wrote:
Spoiler (highlight to read):DoctaStrangelove wrote:
What's wrong with that picture?
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Dude in the back-middle with the grey suit and handel-bar mustache looks like a pedophile
Saddam can has brutha?
incognitoDoctaStrangelove wrote:
Spoiler (highlight to read):Kmarion wrote:
Spoiler (highlight to read):DoctaStrangelove wrote:
What's wrong with that picture?
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Dude in the back-middle with the grey suit and handel-bar mustache looks like a pedophile
Saddam can has brutha?
Saddam wore berets
There will be little said about the Messiah and his handshake with Hublow Chav...Diesel_dyk wrote:
OMG this must mean that Obama is an "Islamic communist central american Indian terrorist fascist drug king pin."
Which on this list do you think the mediatainment industry picks up on?
No, this is just another example that Mr. Obama hasn't a clue is foreign policy and America's best interests are farthest from his agenda.Diesel_dyk wrote:
OMG this must mean that Obama is an "Islamic communist central american Indian terrorist fascist drug king pin."
Which on this list do you think the mediatainment industry picks up on?
You seem to have gathered quite a lot from just a couple of pictures.DBBrinson1 wrote:
No, this is just another example that Mr. Obama hasn't a clue is foreign policy and America's best interests are farthest from his agenda.Diesel_dyk wrote:
OMG this must mean that Obama is an "Islamic communist central american Indian terrorist fascist drug king pin."
Which on this list do you think the mediatainment industry picks up on?
By and large it appears that our enemies see him as a joke. And he is.
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.DBBrinson1 wrote:
No, this is just another example that Mr. Obama hasn't a clue is foreign policy and America's best interests are farthest from his agenda.Diesel_dyk wrote:
OMG this must mean that Obama is an "Islamic communist central american Indian terrorist fascist drug king pin."
Which on this list do you think the mediatainment industry picks up on?
By and large it appears that our enemies see him as a joke. And he is.
America needs more friends right now, not enemies.Havok wrote:
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.DBBrinson1 wrote:
No, this is just another example that Mr. Obama hasn't a clue is foreign policy and America's best interests are farthest from his agenda.Diesel_dyk wrote:
OMG this must mean that Obama is an "Islamic communist central american Indian terrorist fascist drug king pin."
Which on this list do you think the mediatainment industry picks up on?
By and large it appears that our enemies see him as a joke. And he is.
Better idea is to get them to stop being your enemy, which is wat Obama is trying to do apparently.Havok wrote:
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.DBBrinson1 wrote:
No, this is just another example that Mr. Obama hasn't a clue is foreign policy and America's best interests are farthest from his agenda.Diesel_dyk wrote:
OMG this must mean that Obama is an "Islamic communist central american Indian terrorist fascist drug king pin."
Which on this list do you think the mediatainment industry picks up on?
By and large it appears that our enemies see him as a joke. And he is.
Ha. This is a joke. This is how Chavez really sees the USBN wrote:
America needs more friends right now, not enemies.Havok wrote:
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.DBBrinson1 wrote:
No, this is just another example that Mr. Obama hasn't a clue is foreign policy and America's best interests are farthest from his agenda.
By and large it appears that our enemies see him as a joke. And he is.
PS Why would Venezuela be the US's enemy??
So he should see the US that way. The US has exploited South America for its own benefit for far too long.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Ha. This is a joke. This is how Chavez really sees the USBN wrote:
America needs more friends right now, not enemies.Havok wrote:
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
PS Why would Venezuela be the US's enemy??
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch … ts-ob.html
Well, it is true that we've exploited Central and South America quite a bit (and messed with their governments too), but even Chavez can't complain too much.BN wrote:
So he should see the US that way. The US has exploited South America for its own benefit for far too long.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Ha. This is a joke. This is how Chavez really sees the USBN wrote:
America needs more friends right now, not enemies.
PS Why would Venezuela be the US's enemy??
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch … ts-ob.html
It seems the US is an enemy of Venezuela, not the other way around.
Yep, I agree with that statement. Venezuela have benefited.Turquoise wrote:
Well, it is true that we've exploited Central and South America quite a bit (and messed with their governments too), but even Chavez can't complain too much.BN wrote:
So he should see the US that way. The US has exploited South America for its own benefit for far too long.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Ha. This is a joke. This is how Chavez really sees the US
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch … ts-ob.html
It seems the US is an enemy of Venezuela, not the other way around.
We buy a huge portion of their oil. So, if anything, Chavez probably takes his anti-US stance mostly for PR. I'm sure America isn't particularly popular in Venezuela, so Chavez can appease his people while still making a lot of money from American consumption.
I disagree. ..at least from what I've seen. I lived in Venezuela for a year. What I saw was America being admired for the most part. Of course that was pre-Chavez.Turquoise wrote:
I'm sure America isn't particularly popular in Venezuela
If that truly was the case then Chavez wouldn't consistently get elected and would probably never have been elected at all. Perhaps you were moving in more 'bourgeois' circles. Having said that I noticed a certain admiration among Panamanians for elements of the US 'way of life' from going out with a girl from Panama and visiting the place. But perhaps I too could be faulted in my impressions for the fact I was moving in semi-bourgeois circles. They don't seem to realise that their own governments (in Latin America that is) have been selling out to the US and the developed world in general for decades, something I believe contributes massively to their rich-poor divides.Kmarion wrote:
I disagree. ..at least from what I've seen. I lived in Venezuela for a year. What I saw was America being admired for the most part. Of course that was pre-Chavez.Turquoise wrote:
I'm sure America isn't particularly popular in Venezuela
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That sounds like a problem with the government, not the US.BN wrote:
Yep, I agree with that statement. Venezuela have benefited.Turquoise wrote:
Well, it is true that we've exploited Central and South America quite a bit (and messed with their governments too), but even Chavez can't complain too much.BN wrote:
So he should see the US that way. The US has exploited South America for its own benefit for far too long.
It seems the US is an enemy of Venezuela, not the other way around.
We buy a huge portion of their oil. So, if anything, Chavez probably takes his anti-US stance mostly for PR. I'm sure America isn't particularly popular in Venezuela, so Chavez can appease his people while still making a lot of money from American consumption.
But
I remember seeing John Pilger's documentary on the whole issue. Venezuelans could not get access to natural gas as American companies where mining it all taking and the profits back to the US.
The government at the time was fine with this.
Oh I agree. Venezuela's story is pretty typical of that area of the world. People like Chavez generally rise to power when the current government is pro-business but not meeting the needs of the common man.BN wrote:
Yep, I agree with that statement. Venezuela have benefited.Turquoise wrote:
Well, it is true that we've exploited Central and South America quite a bit (and messed with their governments too), but even Chavez can't complain too much.BN wrote:
So he should see the US that way. The US has exploited South America for its own benefit for far too long.
It seems the US is an enemy of Venezuela, not the other way around.
We buy a huge portion of their oil. So, if anything, Chavez probably takes his anti-US stance mostly for PR. I'm sure America isn't particularly popular in Venezuela, so Chavez can appease his people while still making a lot of money from American consumption.
But
I remember seeing John Pilger's documentary on the whole issue. Venezuelans could not get access to natural gas as American companies where mining it all taking and the profits back to the US.
The government at the time was fine with this.
It depends on the country. There are some cases where we definitely played a part in installing the government, while in other cases, it was only the work of a corporation. Either way, most of Central and South America has been manipulated by foreign governments over the last century or so (American or otherwise).FEOS wrote:
That sounds like a problem with the government, not the US.BN wrote:
Yep, I agree with that statement. Venezuela have benefited.Turquoise wrote:
Well, it is true that we've exploited Central and South America quite a bit (and messed with their governments too), but even Chavez can't complain too much.
We buy a huge portion of their oil. So, if anything, Chavez probably takes his anti-US stance mostly for PR. I'm sure America isn't particularly popular in Venezuela, so Chavez can appease his people while still making a lot of money from American consumption.
But
I remember seeing John Pilger's documentary on the whole issue. Venezuelans could not get access to natural gas as American companies where mining it all taking and the profits back to the US.
The government at the time was fine with this.
Or are you the type of guy who gets pissed at the guy your girlfriend is cheating on you with rather than your girlfriend for cheating?
True. But somehow it's the US's fault today that well over a generation ago some knuckleheads took advantage of some of those banana republics (Cuba being an excellent example). Nobody currently in any position of power had anything whatsoever to do with that shit.Turquoise wrote:
It depends on the country. There are some cases where we definitely played a part in installing the government, while in other cases, it was only the work of a corporation. Either way, most of Central and South America has been manipulated by foreign governments over the last century or so (American or otherwise).FEOS wrote:
That sounds like a problem with the government, not the US.BN wrote:
Yep, I agree with that statement. Venezuela have benefited.
But
I remember seeing John Pilger's documentary on the whole issue. Venezuelans could not get access to natural gas as American companies where mining it all taking and the profits back to the US.
The government at the time was fine with this.
Or are you the type of guy who gets pissed at the guy your girlfriend is cheating on you with rather than your girlfriend for cheating?
Well, it's like Africa. England isn't responsible for putting Mugabe in power, but he never would've risen to power if they hadn't abused the shit out of Rhodesia.FEOS wrote:
True. But somehow it's the US's fault today that well over a generation ago some knuckleheads took advantage of some of those banana republics (Cuba being an excellent example). Nobody currently in any position of power had anything whatsoever to do with that shit.Turquoise wrote:
It depends on the country. There are some cases where we definitely played a part in installing the government, while in other cases, it was only the work of a corporation. Either way, most of Central and South America has been manipulated by foreign governments over the last century or so (American or otherwise).FEOS wrote:
That sounds like a problem with the government, not the US.
Or are you the type of guy who gets pissed at the guy your girlfriend is cheating on you with rather than your girlfriend for cheating?