blademaster
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The U.S. contribution was seen as a down payment that will go toward Washington's previously announced plans to give Pakistan $1.5 billion in aid each year for the next five years. Separately, a $7.6 billion bailout has been granted by the International Monetary Fund to avert the country's most recent balance-of-payments crisis.

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Smart move? bad move? idiotic move? wut u think?
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
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ah yea Pakistani president's message was:

"I still fear that the understanding of the danger that Pakistan faces still does not register fully in the minds of the world," he said. "If we lose, you lose. If we lose, the world loses."
ATG
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IMF = international bankers.

I agree, the quickest way to enslavement is to let those fiends into your government.
CameronPoe
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W.h.a.t. A. W.a.s.t.e. O.f. M.o.n.e.y.
FEOS
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Unless they put it into ammo to take out the fundamentalist knuckleheads, it won't do a drop of good.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
mtb0minime
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Forgive me for sounding selfish, but why the fuck are they giving money to some shitty country when our own country is in a shitty situation...
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
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mtb0minime wrote:

Forgive me for sounding selfish, but why the fuck are they giving money to some shitty country when our own country is in a shitty situation...
I know good point also good point made my cameronpoe
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6713|'Murka

mtb0minime wrote:

Forgive me for sounding selfish, but why the fuck are they giving money to some shitty country when our own country is in a shitty situation...
Perspective. A shitty day here beats a good year in many other countries.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Turquoise
O Canada
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The IMF sucks, but then again, so does Pakistan.  I suppose enslavement to international bankers would still be preferable to the life many Pakistanis currently live.
Kmar
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I'd rather give it to AIG ... HA!
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13rin
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What a waste of money.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
ghettoperson
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Kmarion wrote:

I'd rather give it to AIG ... HA!
I'd rather give it to ATG. At least he could hook me up with some sweet gutters or something. That's a lot more than Pakistan will give you.
M.O.A.B
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FEOS wrote:

Unless they put it into ammo to take out the fundamentalist knuckleheads, it won't do a drop of good.
The way things go in Pakistan, I wouldn't be surprised if the aid funnelled its way into insurgent hands and munitions somewhere along the way.
Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
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M.O.A.B wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Unless they put it into ammo to take out the fundamentalist knuckleheads, it won't do a drop of good.
The way things go in Pakistan, I wouldn't be surprised if the aid funnelled its way into insurgent hands and munitions somewhere along the way.
Are you guys kidding? That will do a world of good. For the US. More weapons in foreign hands means more enemies to fight means militaristic society rolls on.

Unless you mean an ounce of good for Pakistan, in which case you are right.
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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Pochsy wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Unless they put it into ammo to take out the fundamentalist knuckleheads, it won't do a drop of good.
The way things go in Pakistan, I wouldn't be surprised if the aid funnelled its way into insurgent hands and munitions somewhere along the way.
Are you guys kidding? That will do a world of good. For the US. More weapons in foreign hands means more enemies to fight means militaristic society rolls on.

Unless you mean an ounce of good for Pakistan, in which case you are right.
The 60's called. They want you to come back.

"militaristic society" ffs.

The only thing that will do any good for Pakistan is getting rid of the radical fundamentalists. Until they get that under control, they're teetering on the edge of anarchy.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6903|132 and Bush

ghettoperson wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I'd rather give it to AIG ... HA!
I'd rather give it to ATG. At least he could hook me up with some sweet gutters or something. That's a lot more than Pakistan will give you.
foo you crazy.

@Pochsy stunts can cost you more than it's worth. Interest payments? The chances of us receiving interest payments (via the imf) are even poorer than the chances of China receiving payments from us on the $1.3T in bonds they have bought in US debt. Money is faith, faith is on the decline.
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Turquoise
O Canada
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FEOS wrote:

Pochsy wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:


The way things go in Pakistan, I wouldn't be surprised if the aid funnelled its way into insurgent hands and munitions somewhere along the way.
Are you guys kidding? That will do a world of good. For the US. More weapons in foreign hands means more enemies to fight means militaristic society rolls on.

Unless you mean an ounce of good for Pakistan, in which case you are right.
The 60's called. They want you to come back.

"militaristic society" ffs.

The only thing that will do any good for Pakistan is getting rid of the radical fundamentalists. Until they get that under control, they're teetering on the edge of anarchy.
He's somewhat correct though.

Then again, a war with Pakistan would definitely pull us out of a recession.  There'd be a shitload of death and destruction, but hey...  Pakistan needs some population control anyway.
Harmor
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https://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7463/obamamoneydownthedrain.png

/sigh
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6707|North Carolina
Well, to be fair, Bush began the trend.

When Musharraf was leading Pakistan, we threw multiple billions at Pakistan per month.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Turquoise wrote:

Well, to be fair, Bush began the trend.

When Musharraf was leading Pakistan, we threw multiple billions at Pakistan per month.
http://www.usaid.gov/pk/mission/background/index.htm
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6707|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Well, to be fair, Bush began the trend.

When Musharraf was leading Pakistan, we threw multiple billions at Pakistan per month.
http://www.usaid.gov/pk/mission/background/index.htm
When it comes to the level of funding though...  Bush brought it to another level.

It is true that we had been working with the ISI for quite some time (primarily under Clinton), which had also involved funding.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6903|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Well, to be fair, Bush began the trend.

When Musharraf was leading Pakistan, we threw multiple billions at Pakistan per month.
http://www.usaid.gov/pk/mission/background/index.htm
When it comes to the level of funding though...  Bush brought it to another level.

It is true that we had been working with the ISI for quite some time (primarily under Clinton), which had also involved funding.
Clinton was not President when Americans had a post 9/11 mentality. Right or wrong the sentiment was noticeably different. Translate those 1950's-81 dollars to today's equivalent and I think you'll see a pretty high level of support.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6707|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

When it comes to the level of funding though...  Bush brought it to another level.

It is true that we had been working with the ISI for quite some time (primarily under Clinton), which had also involved funding.
Clinton was not President when Americans had a post 9/11 mentality. Right or wrong the sentiment was noticeably different. Translate those 1950's-81 dollars to today's equivalent and I think you'll see a pretty high level of support.
True.  But even when adjusted for inflation, the annual amount we've spent on Pakistan during most of the Bush years dwarfs all other periods.

It is true that 9/11 changed a lot of things, but it seems odd that some people are blasting Obama for spending a relatively small amount compared to Bush.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
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My bad...to be fair and balanced:
https://img160.imageshack.us/img160/6916/bushmoneydownthedrain.png

But at least with Bush I felt we were getting our money's worth.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6707|North Carolina

Harmor wrote:

My bad...to be fair and balanced:
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/6916 … edrain.png

But at least with Bush I felt we were getting our money's worth.
Maybe.  Musharraf was certainly more cooperative than their current leader.

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