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* Iran demands UN respond to Israeli "threats"

* Israeli officials hint Israel could attack nuclear sites

* Obama hopes engagement will defuse crisis

UNITED NATIONS, April 14 (Reuters) - Iran on Tuesday called on the United Nations to respond firmly to what it described as Israel's "unlawful and insolent threats" to launch an attack on Tehran's nuclear installations.

Israeli officials, including President Shimon Peres, recently have suggested that the Jewish state could use military force to prevent Tehran from developing nuclear weapons, as the West suspects it is doing.

Iran insists it is only interested in building reactors that peacefully generate electricity.

Its U.N. ambassador, in a letter to Mexican U.N. Ambassador Claude Heller, said Israel was violating the U.N. charter and urged the international body to respond clearly and resolutely. Mexico holds the rotating presidency of the Security Council.

"These outrageous threats of resorting to criminal and terrorist acts against a sovereign country and a member of the United Nations not only display the aggressive and warmongering nature of the Zionist regime, but also constitute blatant violations of international law," Iranian Ambassador Mohammad Khazaee wrote.

The letter came two days after Peres told Israel's Kol Hai radio that Israel would respond with force if Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad refused to soften his position on proceeding with an uranium enrichment program.

"We'll strike him," Peres said in the interview.

An aide to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was quoted last month by Atlantic magazine as saying the government was weighing the military option.

Khazaee said the remarks were "unlawful and insolent threats" based on "fabricated pretexts."

OBAMA WORRIED

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has said that Israel should be "wiped off the map," has vowed to continue his country's nuclear program.

Iran said on Monday it would welcome constructive dialogue on its nuclear program with the the five Security Council permanent members -- the United States, Britain, France, China and Russia -- as well as Germany.

The Security Council has adopted five resolutions demanding that Iran freeze its uranium enrichment program, three of which imposed sanctions against Tehran. Iran has so far refused to stop enriching uranium.

In his interview with Israeli radio, Peres also urged Ahmadinejad to speak with U.S. President Barack Obama, who has promised to adopt a policy of engagement with Iran and has said he is willing to meet with its leaders.

Washington cut off ties with Tehran in 1980 after militants seized the U.S. embassy in the Iranian capital. Former U.S. President George W. Bush pursued a policy of isolating Iran during his eight years in office.

U.S. officials, diplomats and analysts say Obama opposes the use of military force against Iran's nuclear sites but is worried Israel, which bombed Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osiraq in 1981, might bomb Iranian sites if engagement fails.

If Tehran continues to enrich uranium, analysts say, Obama will have no choice but to support a push for a new round of U.N. sanctions against the Islamic Republic later this year. (Editing by Paul Simao)
Source:
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCr … SN14439586

foreplay?

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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6707|North Carolina
*shrugs*  Let Iran have nukes.  Then, they'll either stop fucking with each other, or they'll finally get it over with.
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6163

Turquoise wrote:

*shrugs*  Let Iran have nukes.  Then, they'll either stop fucking with each other, or they'll finally get it over with.
QFT!

i trust Iran with nukes more than israel, pakistan, america and the U.K.

Iran hasn't attacked anyone in aggression in centuries
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6707|North Carolina
I can't say I agree, but I do trust Iran more than Pakistan.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6525|Escea

rammunition wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

*shrugs*  Let Iran have nukes.  Then, they'll either stop fucking with each other, or they'll finally get it over with.
QFT!

i trust Iran with nukes more than israel, pakistan, america and the U.K.

Iran hasn't attacked anyone in aggression in centuries
A country that openly supports Hezbollah and you trust them more than countries which have operated nukes for quite some time without using one with the exception of the two in Japan (which ended the war with less casualties than it could have)?

Until Iran loses Achmadinnerjacket and the Ayatollah I wouldn't trust them within twenty miles of a nuclear football.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6749|Chicago, IL

rammunition wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

*shrugs*  Let Iran have nukes.  Then, they'll either stop fucking with each other, or they'll finally get it over with.
QFT!

i trust Iran with nukes more than israel, pakistan, america and the U.K.

Iran hasn't attacked anyone in aggression in centuries
They've been pathetically weak by comparison for centuries as well, that's a poor argument.

And WWII was open season on civilians for all sides, so don't pull any of that crap.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7018
Iran knows that BO is a paper tiger... so i guess they can go for broke... 
I'll be waiting for the mushroom cloud...
Love is the answer
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6408|eXtreme to the maX
Iran have a right to a fair hearing in the UN same as anyone else.
And I'd trust them to act decently more than I trust Israel.
Fuck Israel
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6713|'Murka

Neither Iran nor Israel have given anyone a reason to trust them.

I guess we can trust Israel when they say they will strike Iran if they feel Iran is close to getting nukes.

But we can't trust Iran when they say they're only engaging in power-related nuke research.

Regardless, if a hearing at the UN results in full cooperation by Iran with the IAEA to settle the matter, then lezdoit.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6408|eXtreme to the maX
If Iran would cooperate fully with the IAEA, then Israel and the US would have no excuse for their threats and ranting.
Seems win-win to me.
Fuck Israel
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6713|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

If Iran would cooperate fully with the IAEA, then Israel and the US would have no excuse for their threats and ranting.
Seems win-win to me.
Neat how that works, isn't it?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6408|eXtreme to the maX
Except it was Israeli and US threats and ranting which drove Iran down the nuclear route in the first place.
I didn't say it would stop, just that they wouldn't have an excuse any more.
Fuck Israel
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6525|Escea

Dilbert_X wrote:

Except it was Israeli and US threats and ranting which drove Iran down the nuclear route in the first place.
I didn't say it would stop, just that they wouldn't have an excuse any more.
I think it was the Iranian revolution that came first, that and supporting all of the terror groups next to Israel, which caused the US and Israel (and not only them) to have a distrust of Iran.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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M.O.A.B wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Except it was Israeli and US threats and ranting which drove Iran down the nuclear route in the first place.
I didn't say it would stop, just that they wouldn't have an excuse any more.
I think it was the Iranian revolution that came first, that and supporting all of the terror groups next to Israel, which caused the US and Israel (and not only them) to have a distrust of Iran.
So it had nothing to do with the overthrow of a US backed monarchy in the country? I thought the idea was to spread democracy, not get pissed at countries that overthrow monarchies/other forms of dictatorship and install their own democratic government.

Last edited by Flecco (2009-04-15 06:20:26)

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6525|Escea

Flecco wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Except it was Israeli and US threats and ranting which drove Iran down the nuclear route in the first place.
I didn't say it would stop, just that they wouldn't have an excuse any more.
I think it was the Iranian revolution that came first, that and supporting all of the terror groups next to Israel, which caused the US and Israel (and not only them) to have a distrust of Iran.
So it had nothing to do with the overthrow of a US backed monarchy in the country? I thought the idea was to spread democracy, not get pissed at countries that overthrow monarchies/other forms of dictatorship and install their own democratic government.
The particular group who took out the Shah isn't any better, in fact they're probably worse for the stability of the area because of their ties to Islamic extremism.
JahManRed
wank
+646|6930|IRELAND

M.O.A.B wrote:

The particular group who took out the Shah isn't any better, in fact they're probably worse for the stability of the area because of their ties to Islamic extremism.
The Shah didn't have to go. His backers in the west and the rich ruling classes in Iran wanted to put him back in and probably could have. He himself relented because it was clearly the will of the people.
Its still the will of the people. And all the shit slung at Iran is only strengthening that will. If the west wants change in Iran we have to learn to let them shape their own future freely. If it fails then the people in power are clearly to fault and will be exposed to and replaced by the people. Iran failing now is blamed on the west no matter how incompetent or radical the Iranian government is and only strengthens and further radicalises the people.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6923|London, England
I dunno why Iran would do that, they know that there's no way Israel could attack Iran on its own without co-operation from another country (which would cause a shitstorm if another country helped). Unlike the attack on Iraq, or recently in Sudan, it's not as simple to go and attack Iran


The geography just doesn't allow it
benefit
Member
+21|6018
the thought of another nut job regime having nukes should be enough to scare anyone

iran has threatened to wipe israel off the map.....although it back pedalled on this threat....now whines about israel.....#

since when did iran take notice of the UN when it comes to human rights abuses? now it bleats to the UN about israel.....just like a petulent child
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6408|eXtreme to the maX

MOAB wrote:

I think it was the Iranian revolution that came first, that and supporting all of the terror groups next to Israel, which caused the US and Israel (and not only them) to have a distrust of Iran.
What came first was the Western powers removing the govt of Iran and imposing the entirely corrupt Shah on the people.

Iran has never threatened to wipe Israel off the map.
Fuck Israel
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6713|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

Except it was Israeli and US threats and ranting which drove Iran down the nuclear route in the first place.
I didn't say it would stop, just that they wouldn't have an excuse any more.
No, it was actually the other way around. Nobody gave a squirt of piss about Iran until they started their nuke program back up.

Researching topics is fun. Try it.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
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Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6857

M.O.A.B wrote:

I think it was the Iranian revolution that came first, that and supporting all of the terror groups next to Israel, which caused the US and Israel (and not only them) to have a distrust of Iran.
The west wanted Iran and the Iranian people to bend to their will, to bend over and take it in the ass as their natural resources were exploited by foreign entities for the primary benefit of foreign elites. The whole thing started with well-warranted Iranian distrust of the west, stemming from British and Russian imperial ambitions in their nation and region right through to western backing of the Shah and CIA-sponsored coups. If any oil-rich nation in this world has a cast-iron reason to acquire nukes, it's Iran. The Israeli dimension is merely a rallying call for support across the region, the 'western colony' growing like a cancerous mole on the buttock of the region.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2009-04-16 03:50:56)

Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6408|eXtreme to the maX
How's this.

Iran was stable and peaceful, they helped the US over AQ, the Taleban and Afghanistan - sticking their necks out wrt the Islamic radicals.
They wrote the the US requesting normalisation of relations and peace, despite the constant meddling from the West over the last century, and US support for Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war.
In return GWB labelled them part of the 'Axis of Evil' and decides they aren't allowed to have a civilian nuclear program whether or not its supervised by the IAEA.

Having seen their direct neighbour invaded for no clear reason other than the PNAC ME plan, which puts them next IIRC, they're spooked and decide they'll do what the hell they like with their uranium.
Fuck Israel
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6713|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

How's this.

Iran was stable and peaceful, they helped the US over AQ, the Taleban and Afghanistan - sticking their necks out wrt the Islamic radicals.
They wrote the the US requesting normalisation of relations and peace, despite the constant meddling from the West over the last century, and US support for Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war.
In return GWB labelled them part of the 'Axis of Evil' and decides they aren't allowed to have a civilian nuclear program whether or not its supervised by the IAEA.

Having seen their direct neighbour invaded for no clear reason other than the PNAC ME plan, which puts them next IIRC, they're spooked and decide they'll do what the hell they like with their uranium.
sources or gtfo
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― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6821|Πάϊ

rammunition wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

*shrugs*  Let Iran have nukes.  Then, they'll either stop fucking with each other, or they'll finally get it over with.
QFT!

i trust Iran with nukes more than israel, pakistan, america and the U.K.
I trust them all the same. Nobody is ever going to use them. I'd trust them even more if every country had nukes. The more the merrier
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