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When the oil's run out.Man With No Name wrote:
they will be some day
Solar panels? lolHurricane2k9 wrote:
photovoltaic panels?
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This.FEOS wrote:
If there were money to be made as easily and quickly as there is in oil, they would.
There isn't.
They won't.
some have sunk millions into research, but it is all proprietary at the moment, so we don't hear much about itSpark wrote:
This.FEOS wrote:
If there were money to be made as easily and quickly as there is in oil, they would.
There isn't.
They won't.
Plus, doing new things is hard.
That should be the extreme right's slogan.Spark wrote:
Plus, doing new things is hard.
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I thought it already wasPoseidon wrote:
That should be the extreme right's slogan.Spark wrote:
Plus, doing new things is hard.
Exactly.FEOS wrote:
If there were money to be made as easily and quickly as there is in oil, they would.
There isn't.
They won't.
Companies would make up the difference by just charging the customer more.Dilbert_X wrote:
Exactly.FEOS wrote:
If there were money to be made as easily and quickly as there is in oil, they would.
There isn't.
They won't.
There is no fuel as easy to extract, process and deliver, with such high energy density and return on input energy as oil.
A carbon tax would go some way to redressing that
And it's not scalable yet on the level it would need to be in order for these guys to shift their trillions of dollars of infrastructure investments over to something else.S.Lythberg wrote:
some have sunk millions into research, but it is all proprietary at the moment, so we don't hear much about itSpark wrote:
This.FEOS wrote:
If there were money to be made as easily and quickly as there is in oil, they would.
There isn't.
They won't.
Plus, doing new things is hard.
Because then they don't have control over us. Any company could build photovoltaic cells. Oil is a commodity we rely on a constant supply.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Thing is, what's stopping Exxon from setting up shop in Australia and mining some uranium? Why can't Shell just build photovoltaic panels?
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Cause lols would be had. The main uranium deposits are in a World Heritage listed (both cultural AND natural) national park..Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Thing is, what's stopping Exxon from setting up shop in Australia and mining some uranium?
They do.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
I mean I always hear these crazy theories about how "Big Oil" is stopping advancements in the development of alternative energy sources.
Thing is, what's stopping Exxon from setting up shop in Australia and mining some uranium? Why can't Shell just build photovoltaic panels?
They will.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
I mean I always hear these crazy theories about how "Big Oil" is stopping advancements in the development of alternative energy sources.
Thing is, what's stopping Exxon from setting up shop in Australia and mining some uranium? Why can't Shell just build photovoltaic panels?
This above is the deal. The oil companies rake in billions per day, solar is not something that will generate ongoing cash profits.FEOS wrote:
And it's not scalable yet on the level it would need to be in order for these guys to shift their trillions of dollars of infrastructure investments over to something else.S.Lythberg wrote:
some have sunk millions into research, but it is all proprietary at the moment, so we don't hear much about itSpark wrote:
This.
Plus, doing new things is hard.
Plus, the business case has yet to be made. Once they build the stuff, how do they maintain revenue? It basically sits there for 20-30 years, not providing them any cash flow. Once they figure out a way to make sustainable cash flow on the technology, you can bet they'll jump on it.
But it's not there yet.
Not true at all.ATG wrote:
This above is the deal. The oil companies rake in billions per day, solar is not something that will generate ongoing cash profits.FEOS wrote:
And it's not scalable yet on the level it would need to be in order for these guys to shift their trillions of dollars of infrastructure investments over to something else.S.Lythberg wrote:
some have sunk millions into research, but it is all proprietary at the moment, so we don't hear much about it
Plus, the business case has yet to be made. Once they build the stuff, how do they maintain revenue? It basically sits there for 20-30 years, not providing them any cash flow. Once they figure out a way to make sustainable cash flow on the technology, you can bet they'll jump on it.
But it's not there yet.
Somebody said oil companies are buying up patents. I would submit that it is to squash the development of technology, not because they are busy developing alternative power sources.
Links or gtfo.Bertster7 wrote:
Not true at all.ATG wrote:
This above is the deal. The oil companies rake in billions per day, solar is not something that will generate ongoing cash profits.FEOS wrote:
And it's not scalable yet on the level it would need to be in order for these guys to shift their trillions of dollars of infrastructure investments over to something else.
Plus, the business case has yet to be made. Once they build the stuff, how do they maintain revenue? It basically sits there for 20-30 years, not providing them any cash flow. Once they figure out a way to make sustainable cash flow on the technology, you can bet they'll jump on it.
But it's not there yet.
Somebody said oil companies are buying up patents. I would submit that it is to squash the development of technology, not because they are busy developing alternative power sources.
Many of the oil companies are investing billions in alternative energy and selling it fairly successfully.
They are definitely NOT buying up patents so they can't be used.
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