LiamPK
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BNP (British National Party) are always saying preservation of "British Culture" as were aparently being invaded by invisible foreigners.

Can someone explain to me what "British Culture" actually is?

and why it is unable to change?

To me it seems like a bit of racist spin, to cover up the fact the BNP have no time for anyone who is not of a white origin, to divide an already dividing nation and make people belive that everyone in Britain should be white, Protestant and anti-europe.

I mean british culture as in hailing down to a birth-right monarch?
Waving a flag with colours on it?

Last edited by LiamPK (2009-04-05 15:30:03)

ATG
Banned
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Perhaps as in, no more Pakistanis and illegal aliens???
Jenspm
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wat, Britain has a culture?
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ATG wrote:

Perhaps as in, no more Pakistanis and illegal aliens???
Nothing much wrong with Pakistani or Islamic immigration/conversion. Illegals... That's another story. Hunt the fuckers down and throw them back. If they don't respect the country's laws on immigration why should the country respect them?

As for British culture, I'd say that the Pakistanis have a right to influence British culture after what's happened in India/Pakistan/Afghanistan these past 200 or so years.
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What is the BNP's opinion on the rest of the commonwealth?
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Hi, China just called and they want their tea back.
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The Benny Hill theme probably is Britain's greatest contribution to the world.
Noobeater
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The BNP is simply put the most incredibly racist political party you should ever hope to get its headquarters bombed. They're political ideals are simply using immigrants and non british whites as scapegoats for whatever they believe to be a problem at whatever period of time it is. If they were to ever get any real mainstream support i would leave this country immediately.

And yes, culture is not set in stone. Each generation changes their nations culture based on their own beliefs and ideals, by clinging onto old beliefs the BNP shows that they are not sensible enough to realise the true nature of society, as an everchanging sea of different and sometimes  new ideas.
lowing
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LiamPK wrote:

BNP (British National Party) are always saying preservation of "British Culture" as were aparently being invaded by invisible foreigners.

Can someone explain to me what "British Culture" actually is?

and why it is unable to change?

To me it seems like a bit of racist spin, to cover up the fact the BNP have no time for anyone who is not of a white origin, to divide an already dividing nation and make people belive that everyone in Britain should be white, Protestant and anti-europe.

I mean british culture as in hailing down to a birth-right monarch?
Waving a flag with colours on it?
Is there really something terribly wrong with a national identity? Is it so terrible that an Englishmen might want to maintain his nations customs traditions and identity? If he really wanted an Islamic ( in this example) culture, he could would and should move to some ME country and live it up.  Please excuse him for having a life of his own as well, and might like his life just the way it is. Does this really have to make him a racist?

You lambaste people for not wanting FORCED change in their existences, yet say nothing of the unwanted intrusions in their own cultures, unless of course you are the US trying to force feed unwanted democracy all over the globe, thsat is different,  then you spare no expense on disgust and condemnation for that unwanted intrusion.

It appears unwanted outside influences on the west is considered a racist attitude and unwanted influences FROM the west is understandable.

Sounds an awful like like bullshit to me.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6802|so randum

lowing wrote:

LiamPK wrote:

BNP (British National Party) are always saying preservation of "British Culture" as were aparently being invaded by invisible foreigners.

Can someone explain to me what "British Culture" actually is?

and why it is unable to change?

To me it seems like a bit of racist spin, to cover up the fact the BNP have no time for anyone who is not of a white origin, to divide an already dividing nation and make people belive that everyone in Britain should be white, Protestant and anti-europe.

I mean british culture as in hailing down to a birth-right monarch?
Waving a flag with colours on it?
Is there really something terribly wrong with a national identity? Is it so terrible that an Englishmen might want to maintain his nations customs traditions and identity? If he really wanted an Islamic ( in this example) culture, he could would and should move to some ME country and live it up.  Please excuse him for having a life of his own as well, and might like his life just the way it is. Does this really have to make him a racist?

You lambaste people for not wanting FORCED change in their existences, yet say nothing of the unwanted intrusions in their own cultures, unless of course you are the US trying to force feed unwanted democracy all over the globe, thsat is different,  then you spare no expense on disgust and condemnation for that unwanted intrusion.

It appears unwanted outside influences on the west is considered a racist attitude and unwanted influences FROM the west is understandable.

Sounds an awful like like bullshit to me.
I don't buy that. Not since the start of the British Empire has Britain been without extra-anglo influence. Our culture has constantly changed. The BNP are just honest to god, a bunch of fucking racists.
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Reciprocity
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aren't there sanctioned sharia courts in muslim neighborhoods now?
lowing
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+1,662|6953|USA

FatherTed wrote:

lowing wrote:

LiamPK wrote:

BNP (British National Party) are always saying preservation of "British Culture" as were aparently being invaded by invisible foreigners.

Can someone explain to me what "British Culture" actually is?

and why it is unable to change?

To me it seems like a bit of racist spin, to cover up the fact the BNP have no time for anyone who is not of a white origin, to divide an already dividing nation and make people belive that everyone in Britain should be white, Protestant and anti-europe.

I mean british culture as in hailing down to a birth-right monarch?
Waving a flag with colours on it?
Is there really something terribly wrong with a national identity? Is it so terrible that an Englishmen might want to maintain his nations customs traditions and identity? If he really wanted an Islamic ( in this example) culture, he could would and should move to some ME country and live it up.  Please excuse him for having a life of his own as well, and might like his life just the way it is. Does this really have to make him a racist?

You lambaste people for not wanting FORCED change in their existences, yet say nothing of the unwanted intrusions in their own cultures, unless of course you are the US trying to force feed unwanted democracy all over the globe, thsat is different,  then you spare no expense on disgust and condemnation for that unwanted intrusion.

It appears unwanted outside influences on the west is considered a racist attitude and unwanted influences FROM the west is understandable.

Sounds an awful like like bullshit to me.
I don't buy that. Not since the start of the British Empire has Britain been without extra-anglo influence. Our culture has constantly changed. The BNP are just honest to god, a bunch of fucking racists.
How about addressing this observation and explain it

"You lambaste people for not wanting FORCED change in their existences, yet say nothing of the unwanted intrusions in their own cultures, unless of course you are the US trying to force feed unwanted democracy all over the globe, thsat is different,  then you spare no expense on disgust and condemnation for that unwanted intrusion.

It appears unwanted outside influences on the west is considered a racist attitude and unwanted influences FROM the west is understandable."
lowing
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+1,662|6953|USA

Reciprocity wrote:

aren't there sanctioned sharia courts in muslim neighborhoods now?
I am sure there are, and you are a racist I guess, if you do not approve.

Offer democracy to the ME and you are meddling, not wanting sharia law in your country and you are a racist. Quite a double standard.
Reciprocity
Member
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lowing wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

aren't there sanctioned sharia courts in muslim neighborhoods now?
I am sure there are, and you are a racist I guess, if you do not approve.

Offer democracy to the ME and you are meddling, not wanting sharia law in your country and you are a racist. Quite a double standard.
lol, am i a racist for seeing the hypocrisy in the 911 hijackers hanging out in strip clubs while training to punish the west for its excesses and indecencies?

Last edited by Reciprocity (2009-04-05 17:31:19)

Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7018
Good luck UK... at this point it's probably too late... but you never know... maybe a backbone will pop up in a few people...?
and i mean that sincerely... You have a wonderful, very inclusive history with a wide variety of people... It's not to much to ask that they(immigrants) all respect your culture and traditions... you Brits all respect and honor their culture and traditions...right?
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DoctaStrangelove wrote:

The Benny Hill theme probably is Britain's greatest contribution to the world.


Top Gear?

The USA?

Australia?

Canada?
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lowing
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Reciprocity wrote:

lowing wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

aren't there sanctioned sharia courts in muslim neighborhoods now?
I am sure there are, and you are a racist I guess, if you do not approve.

Offer democracy to the ME and you are meddling, not wanting sharia law in your country and you are a racist. Quite a double standard.
lol, am i a racist for seeing the hypocrisy in the 911 hijackers hanging out in strip clubs while training to punish the west for its excesses and indecencies?
Yup, how about that.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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All for protecting your way of life. I seriously doubt immigrants had anything to do with the hound hunting ban though.


Chavs are doing more to destroy England and English culture than legal immigrants.
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lowing
Banned
+1,662|6953|USA

lowing wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

lowing wrote:


Is there really something terribly wrong with a national identity? Is it so terrible that an Englishmen might want to maintain his nations customs traditions and identity? If he really wanted an Islamic ( in this example) culture, he could would and should move to some ME country and live it up.  Please excuse him for having a life of his own as well, and might like his life just the way it is. Does this really have to make him a racist?

You lambaste people for not wanting FORCED change in their existences, yet say nothing of the unwanted intrusions in their own cultures, unless of course you are the US trying to force feed unwanted democracy all over the globe, thsat is different,  then you spare no expense on disgust and condemnation for that unwanted intrusion.

It appears unwanted outside influences on the west is considered a racist attitude and unwanted influences FROM the west is understandable.

Sounds an awful like like bullshit to me.
I don't buy that. Not since the start of the British Empire has Britain been without extra-anglo influence. Our culture has constantly changed. The BNP are just honest to god, a bunch of fucking racists.
How about addressing this observation and explain it

"You lambaste people for not wanting FORCED change in their existences, yet say nothing of the unwanted intrusions in their own cultures, unless of course you are the US trying to force feed unwanted democracy all over the globe, thsat is different,  then you spare no expense on disgust and condemnation for that unwanted intrusion.

It appears unwanted outside influences on the west is considered a racist attitude and unwanted influences FROM the west is understandable."
ignored, go figure.
destruktion_6143
Was ist Loos?
+154|6929|Canada

lowing wrote:

lowing wrote:

FatherTed wrote:


I don't buy that. Not since the start of the British Empire has Britain been without extra-anglo influence. Our culture has constantly changed. The BNP are just honest to god, a bunch of fucking racists.
How about addressing this observation and explain it

"You lambaste people for not wanting FORCED change in their existences, yet say nothing of the unwanted intrusions in their own cultures, unless of course you are the US trying to force feed unwanted democracy all over the globe, thsat is different,  then you spare no expense on disgust and condemnation for that unwanted intrusion.

It appears unwanted outside influences on the west is considered a racist attitude and unwanted influences FROM the west is understandable."
ignored, go figure.
lowing, how bout you research this party before you start supporting its racist agenda and propaganda?
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6802|so randum
sorry lowing, packing atm. havn't really got time to address your points properly - will do when im all sorted
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lowing
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destruktion_6143 wrote:

lowing wrote:

lowing wrote:


How about addressing this observation and explain it

"You lambaste people for not wanting FORCED change in their existences, yet say nothing of the unwanted intrusions in their own cultures, unless of course you are the US trying to force feed unwanted democracy all over the globe, thsat is different,  then you spare no expense on disgust and condemnation for that unwanted intrusion.

It appears unwanted outside influences on the west is considered a racist attitude and unwanted influences FROM the west is understandable."
ignored, go figure.
lowing, how bout you research this party before you start supporting its racist agenda and propaganda?
How about you just respond to the observation?
Man With No Name
جندي
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Jenspm wrote:

wat, Britain has a culture?
the british invented racism.  true story.

lowing, seriously, research BNP.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= … fer=europe


"Whites-Only U.K. Party Seizes on Economic Slump to Fuel Gains"
not surprised you would be defending them.  the reason why I dont even bother reading your posts.

Last edited by Man With No Name (2009-04-05 19:34:26)

destruktion_6143
Was ist Loos?
+154|6929|Canada

Man With No Name wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

wat, Britain has a culture?
the british invented racism.  true story.

lowing, seriously, research BNP.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= … fer=europe


"Whites-Only U.K. Party Seizes on Economic Slump to Fuel Gains"
not surprised you would be defending them.  the reason why I dont even bother reading your posts.
i should follow your lead there.

btw lowing, i am all for the preservation of a countrys culture. what the muslims are doing to england is frightening. taking over neighborhoods, forcing the gov't to bow to them bc they are complaining. seriously, they take offence too easily, pussies.

but the BNP is a white supremacist group that use violence and hate crimes to promote their party. think KKK, but even worse bc they call themselves politicians.

Last edited by destruktion_6143 (2009-04-05 20:29:07)

Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
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Jenspm wrote:

wat, Britain has a culture?

http://www.k-1.com/Orwell/index.cgi/wor … icorn.html

and especially the part entitled 'England Your England'


When you come back to England from any foreign country, you have immediately the sensation of breathing a different air. Even in the first few minutes dozens of small things conspire to give you this feeling. The beer is bitterer, the coins are heavier, the grass is greener, the advertisements are more blatant. The crowds in the big towns, with their mild knobby faces, their bad teeth and gentle manners, are different from a European crowd. Then the vastness of England swallows you up, and you lose for a while your feeling that the whole nation has a single identifiable character. Are there really such things as nations? Are we not forty-six million individuals, all different? And the diversity of it, the chaos! The clatter of clogs in the Lancashire mill towns, the to-and-fro of the lorries on the Great North Road, the queues outside the Labour Exchanges, the rattle of pin-tables in the Soho pubs, the old maids hiking to Holy Communion through the mists of the autumn morning - all these are not only fragments, but characteristic fragments, of the English scene. How can one make a pattern out of this muddle?

But talk to foreigners, read foreign books or newspapers, and you are brought back to the same thought. Yes, there is something distinctive and recognizable in English civilization. It is a culture as individual as that of Spain. It is somehow bound up with solid breakfasts and gloomy Sundays, smoky towns and winding roads, green fields and red pillar-boxes. It has a flavour of its own. Moreover it is continuous, it stretches into the future and the past, there is something in it that persists, as in a living creature. What can the England of 1940 have in common with the England of 1840? But then, what have you in common with the child of five whose photograph your mother keeps on the mantelpiece? Nothing, except that you happen to be the same person.

And above all, it is your civilization, it is you. However much you hate it or laugh at it, you will never be happy away from it for any length of time. The suet puddings and the red pillar-boxes have entered into your soul. Good or evil, it is yours, you belong to it, and this side the grave you will never get away from the marks that it has given you.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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