BF2S Forums Why Didn't The Republicans Just Put Forward A Black Nominee?

No.

Not as some sort of petty retaliation to Obama.



Should they run one in an election soon? Yes, but he has to be backed an awesome PR team just as Obama was.

The Democrats did not put him into place simply because he was black, either.

Just have to look at the bitter battle Obama had to fight against Hilary on issues to see that.

Although, should the Republicans put forward a female Presidential candidate is just as a valid question.

Locoloki wrote:

I didnt vote for a black president I voted for the best candidate

Not according to people like lowing. According to him Obama only got into office because of his skin colour and because of a superficial media fascination in him.

AussieReaper wrote:

The Democrats did not put him into place simply because he was black, either.

Just have to look at the bitter battle Obama had to fight against Hilary on issues to see that.

Although, should the Republicans put forward a female Presidential candidate is just as a valid question.

Idk, I think the 'battle' between Obama and Hillary was staged for the benefit of the public.

Was just the guys pulling the strings behind the Democrats seeing who was more photogenic.




I still think they were taking the piss with that election though.

'Hmm guys, so Bush has fucked up massively in the public opinion polls and we have a chance to get anybody we like into office.'
'I know, lets run Hillary!'
'Haha, that's a good one.... OH SHIT GUYS HOW ABOUT THAT BLACK GUY WITH THE MUSLIM NAME? You know the dude who did that great speech at national convention during the last election. Man, if we got him into the office we'd know the republicans are fucked.'

Last edited by Flecco (2009-03-31 07:05:37)

Flecco wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

The Democrats did not put him into place simply because he was black, either.

Just have to look at the bitter battle Obama had to fight against Hilary on issues to see that.

Although, should the Republicans put forward a female Presidential candidate is just as a valid question.

Idk, I think the 'battle' between Obama and Hillary was staged for the benefit of the public.

Was just the guys pulling the strings behind the Democrats seeing who was more photogenic.






I still think they were taking the piss with that election though.

'Hmm guys, so Bush has fucked up massively in the public opinion polls and we have a chance to get anybody we like into office.'
'I know, lets run Hillary!'
'Haha, that's a good one.... OH SHIT GUYS HOW ABOUT THAT BLACK GUY WITH THE MUSLIM NAME? You know the dude who did that great speech at national convention during the last election. Man, if we got him into the office we'd know the republicans are fucked.'

Yes, nowadays people seem very quick to forget that Bush left with the lowest approval rating ever, and that Obama ruined the country in 3 months.

Flecco wrote:

Eh?

I missed the part where the USA was ruined. Seems to be in rough shape compared to the glory days sure but it's hardly on the verge of collapse.

many people here would disagree with that statement

Last edited by Locoloki (2009-03-31 07:14:12)

No, having a black nominee for no other reason than the fact that Obama is black would not work. Republicans ALREADY tried this tactic against him for the Illinois senators seat. Brought in Alan Keyes from Maryland who just got massacred in the polls.

Braddock wrote:

Flecco wrote:

No.

Not as some sort of petty retaliation to Obama.



Should they run one in an election soon? Yes, but he has to be backed an awesome PR team just as Obama was.

That was a point I was trying to make to lowing. It's very easy to say race is what won it for Obama but to do that would be to deny one of the most forward-thinking online campaigns in the history of US politics. Obama's web team were thinking outside the box at every juncture while McCain was struggling to keep up with what Google was.

Braddock, time to be fair here.

I never said he was elected because he was black solely. Being Black only solidified the minority vote

I said he was elected because, coupled with his race, and the votes that drew, he was made out to be celebrity, a rock star. People fainting at the sight of him. He was made out to be the second coming Christ. 

All of what I just mentioned along with the entitlement attitude that America embraces is what got him elected. Celebrity worship and not the issues saw him into the white house.

jesus anyone else sick of the euro vs lowing shit?  my god you all need your own sticky or something.

DonFck wrote:

usmarine wrote:

jesus anyone else sick of the euro vs lowing shit?

I find it very entertaining.

to a point.  but then the next 5 pages will become massive quote blocks and most people lose interest in the discussion because of it.

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Flecco wrote:

No.

Not as some sort of petty retaliation to Obama.



Should they run one in an election soon? Yes, but he has to be backed an awesome PR team just as Obama was.

That was a point I was trying to make to lowing. It's very easy to say race is what won it for Obama but to do that would be to deny one of the most forward-thinking online campaigns in the history of US politics. Obama's web team were thinking outside the box at every juncture while McCain was struggling to keep up with what Google was.

Braddock, time to be fair here.

I never said he was elected because he was black solely. Being Black only solidified the minority vote

I said he was elected because, coupled with his race, and the votes that drew, he was made out to be celebrity, a rock star. People fainting at the sight of him. He was made out to be the second coming Christ. 

All of what I just mentioned along with the entitlement attitude that America embraces is what got him elected. Celebrity worship and not the issues saw him into the white house.

Wrong lowing, his issues got him past Hilary Clinton, that race was dragged out forever over every detail of their policies. Furthermore, he had to pay particular attention to his issues to subsequently secure the Hilary Clinton fan base vote after he beat her. As an outsider it did not seem to me that he was cruising on reputation and ignoring the issues at any stage of the election race. Do you think we here in Europe love Obama because he is a "rockstar"? Get over yourselves, we like Obama because unlike Bush he represents a move towards international stability. It was beginning to seem to us here in Europe that America was sliding into fascism and Obama represented hope to the contrary. He has already announced the closure of Guantanamo bay, an end to America's policy of ignoring International law regarding the treatment of captives, an end to the US occupation of Iraq, an increased emphasis on where the terror really is (Afghanistan and Pakistan), he has already extended the olive branch to the people of Iran... you can hate him for your own reasons, as Europeans he's doing okay so far by our expectations.

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

as Europeans he's doing okay so far by our expectations.

wow...i need to move to europe then.

Welcome! Hell, you can sleep on my couch until you find your own place.