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2009-03-06 12:11:07
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
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Sidsnot wrote:

west-phoenix-az wrote:

Criminal pulls a gun = victims life has been threatened
Victim pulls a gun = criminals life have been threatened
Gun = the great equalizer
Or one of them just gets shot
and?

BTW, when the victim pulls his gun, he doesn't point it and use it to bargain. He fires immediately without hesitation. You don't pull a gun and point it at someone who is threatening your life. You pull your gun and shoot to kill. The gun gives both the criminal and victim the same power (equal).

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2009-03-06 13:14:08
Ajax_the_Great1
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Gooners wrote:

Mitch wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:


Pro tip: Pulling a gun on someone escalates the situation.
Pro tip: Tell that to Tyrone who already has a gun and is staring down your back pocket.
Just a question... Why Tyrone?
Black people make all the crime. You ever seen a white guy named Tyrone?
2009-03-06 13:17:19
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
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west-phoenix-az wrote:

Sidsnot wrote:

west-phoenix-az wrote:

Criminal pulls a gun = victims life has been threatened
Victim pulls a gun = criminals life have been threatened
Gun = the great equalizer
Or one of them just gets shot
and?

BTW, when the victim pulls his gun, he doesn't point it and use it to bargain. He fires immediately without hesitation. You don't pull a gun and point it at someone who is threatening your life. You pull your gun and shoot to kill. The gun gives both the criminal and victim the same power (equal).
The main problem with that is the criminal already has his gun pointed at you. If you reach for your gun, he's going to shoot you first.
2009-03-06 13:33:02
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6389

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

west-phoenix-az wrote:

Sidsnot wrote:

Or one of them just gets shot
and?

BTW, when the victim pulls his gun, he doesn't point it and use it to bargain. He fires immediately without hesitation. You don't pull a gun and point it at someone who is threatening your life. You pull your gun and shoot to kill. The gun gives both the criminal and victim the same power (equal).
The main problem with that is the criminal already has his gun pointed at you. If you reach for your gun, he's going to shoot you first.
Yep that's the problem and you have to make a judgment call.
- What is behind the threat? What are your shots going to hit?
- Is he focusing his attention on you 100% or is he looking around for police, witnesses, etc.?
- Is his gun pointing right at you, or just in your general direction?
- How fast is your draw?
- How accurate is your shot placement?
- Can you move in a direction that his shot may miss you?
- Can you hit his arm or gun with one hand, while drawing with your other, and avoid getting hit?
- Is his gun real, is it loaded, is it cocked, is the safety on? This is where knowing about various firearms can be an advantage.

Its a big gamble, may or may not be worth it. Unarmed victims get shot and killed all the time. Carrying a gun gives you the option to shoot, you don't have to take that option, but at least you have it.

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2009-03-06 13:36:07
Doctor Strangelove
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west-phoenix-az wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

west-phoenix-az wrote:


and?

BTW, when the victim pulls his gun, he doesn't point it and use it to bargain. He fires immediately without hesitation. You don't pull a gun and point it at someone who is threatening your life. You pull your gun and shoot to kill. The gun gives both the criminal and victim the same power (equal).
The main problem with that is the criminal already has his gun pointed at you. If you reach for your gun, he's going to shoot you first.
Yep that's the problem and you have to make a judgment call.
- What is behind the threat? What are your shots going to hit?
- Is he focusing his attention on you 100% or is he looking around for police, witnesses, etc.?
- Is his gun pointing right at you, or just in your general direction?
- How fast is your draw?
- How accurate is your shot placement?
- Can you move in a direction that his shot may miss you?
- Can you hit his arm or gun with one hand, while drawing with your other, and avoid getting hit?
- Is his gun real, is it loaded, is it cocked, is the safety on? This is where knowing about various firearms can be an advantage.

Its a big gamble, may or may not be worth it. Unarmed victims get shot and killed all the time. Carrying a gun gives you the option to shoot, you don't have to take that option, but at least you have it.
But the problem with that is if you reach for your gun, he will try and shoot you. He might not kill, hit, or even fire, but he will try to kill you if you pull out your gun. If you don't pull out a gun, he'll just take your shit and be on his way. If you rob someone, you're probably not going to get caught, while if you kill someone, there is a good chance you will.
2009-03-06 13:37:25
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6389

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

But the problem with that is if you reach for your gun, he will try and shoot you. He might not kill, hit, or even fire, but he will try to kill you if you pull out your gun. If you don't pull out a gun, he'll just take your shit and be on his way. If you rob someone, you're probably not going to get caught, while if you kill someone, there is a good chance you will.
You may be in your car and he doesn't know you are armed.
You may be walking and have a pocket pistol.
He is most likely trying to rob you. You have to give him the item (wallet, money, etc.) he wants, maybe you come out with a gun instead.

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2009-03-06 13:45:25
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6389

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

...If you don't pull out a gun, he'll just take your shit and be on his way...
It would be great if that was a fact, but it's not. Many victims, who cooperated 100%, were shot and or killed. There are plenty of videos online to show this and those are just the ones caught on tape and uploaded.

Real homicide investigations are not like TV. A lot of people get away with murder, especially if the killer doesn't know the victim.
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2009-03-06 13:59:43
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
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Mekstizzle wrote:

At the very least you should have some sort of course that needs to be passed before you should be allowed to carry guns in a public place. Incompetence/accidents is no excuse, you can't walk around with something so dangerous with so little care or competence. Throw the book at this prick
Actually, to legally carry concealed, most states require some sort of training.  Alaska and Vermont, the two states which do not even require a permit to carry concealed, don't have very high violent crime rates (which may be a factor in why legislation to require a permit has never passed).
2009-03-06 16:34:37
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6716
Lol I love the it escelates the situation argument. So lets not hurt the criminals k guys, they need to be taken care of with love.
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2009-03-06 16:46:22
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,053|6622|Little Bentcock

Mitch wrote:

Sidsnot wrote:

Mitch wrote:

It's a shame he had to be charged with carrying a pistol unlawfully.
Why... ?
Cause if a co-student decided to shoot up the school, there would be a legit chance of stopping him. A student like the one here (who had no appearent intentions of hurting anyone - which leaves the carrying of that pistol shearly self-defense)

Obviously though, he had it loaded and cocked with the safety off which is terrible practice.
And in his hand

Havok wrote:

Mitch wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:


Pro tip: Pulling a gun on someone escalates the situation.
Pro tip: Tell that to Tyrone who already has a gun and is staring down your back pocket.
Wow, that isn't the most racist, paranoid thing I've heard all day.  Go back to the safety of your white padded room.
How is that racist? Sounds like someone is making and assumption..

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2009-03-06 17:20:12
The_Sniper_NM
Official EVGA Fanboy
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Mekstizzle wrote:

At the very least you should have some sort of course that needs to be passed before you should be allowed to carry guns in a public place. Incompetence/accidents is no excuse, you can't walk around with something so dangerous with so little care or competence. Throw the book at this prick
Lol. Sux2b gun banned Europe.

Its called a CWP, Concealed Weapons Permit, or at least here in SC. Both my parents have em.

First of all, that school doesn't admit the brightest rednecks. Keep in mind that school's in Rock Hill, aka redneckville.
2009-03-06 17:22:33
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6681|Disaster Free Zone

Mitch wrote:

Metal-Eater-GR wrote:

RDMC wrote:


Pro tip: Ban guns for public use.
Pro tip: guns are bad mkay?
Pro tip: Criminals dont follow laws
Pro tip: This guy didn't follow the law. ~ ergo....

 

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