BF2S Forums What A Little Wanker... (Jonathon Krohn)

Pochsy wrote:

lowing wrote:

Perhaps, but what is worse his writing a book you think he is not qualified to write, or people buying it? Don't blame him because he can draw an audience

I do not blame him for for drawing an audience, instead I condemn him for ignoring half of his own ideological viewpoint (which I'm sure he is aware of) and leading sheep astray. As a basic introduction to the ideology of conservatism his book could potentially be quite good; I have stated this already too. But he is no authority. He is not one to stand in front of the press and make such statements, or at least he shouldn't be. U

Unfortunately in this instance I do not think people have bought his book for the reasons you may like to believe (IE he is good author). Instead he's managed to take on the burden of a freak-show, selling copies so people can see if it's true. I assure you had this child been 14-17 (still young enough to consider him a child genius) he would be laughed at and called an arrogant teenager.

You've managed to change the issue at hand as well, why?

Flecco wrote:

Ey, you can be conservative and not come of as arrogant, self-righteous, cold and heartless you know.

Pochsy wrote:

lowing wrote:

I don't see myself apologizing anytime soon for it.

Nor should you.

I personally have a streak of both liberalism and conservatism in me. If you believe it, some of you hardcore conservatives would condemn me for having socialist ideals as a combination of the two (strong communal values and hardworking nature mixed with a soft spot for those in need). I would not consider myself to lean quite that far on the spectrum, but many members here seem to like to decide for others.

What I am trying to point out here (and failing because I am stoned, drunk and tired), is that the nature of conservative community here on BF2s (note: not ALL conservatives, just you lot) seems to like to place people in to nice little boxes. You go off and create conservative only threads simply to signify that you have no desire to attempt to convince us sinners that you are in fact taking the high road. I've read through that thread once and found statements akin to 'liberalism is easily dismantled' and 'how can anybody be so far off', yet I remain unconvinced that conservatism is the best outlook to take. Nor do I find liberalism particularly compelling, mind you. To me I would say those unfounded and un-acted upon statements DO work to prove that MOST (not all) of the conservative proponents on this site are in fact arrogant.

If this made no sense forgive me, tis late, I'm drunk and stoned, and I'm off to bed for the night.

lowing wrote:

Gotta disagree, we (I) come off as arrogant by those on the left because, they need someone to blame for their own failures in life, they do not like that their failures are their own and have no one ( really) to blame other than themselves. So, they take a person such as me, that has not failed to their extent, build a pretty good moddest middle class life, and am enjoying not having to deal with the problems they face. By me not dealing with their problems is recieved as, "too good to have any problems or too good to help those that do". This is not the case, my tax dollars are already funding projects that help people with their problems, I simply see no reason why I should have to burdon myself so much that I must join them in those same problems in order to " be fair" or not to "be greedy".

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Gotta disagree, we (I) come off as arrogant by those on the left because, they need someone to blame for their own failures in life, they do not like that their failures are their own and have no one ( really) to blame other than themselves. So, they take a person such as me, that has not failed to their extent, build a pretty good moddest middle class life, and am enjoying not having to deal with the problems they face. By me not dealing with their problems is recieved as, "too good to have any problems or too good to help those that do". This is not the case, my tax dollars are already funding projects that help people with their problems, I simply see no reason why I should have to burdon myself so much that I must join them in those same problems in order to " be fair" or not to "be greedy".

I'm sorry lowing but this argument you put forward here is only true inside your own head and has no bearing on reality. Who do you consider to be quintessential left-wingers on this forum? Cameronpoe? ...he's a successful engineer who rakes in a hefty salary. JahManRed? ...he's an architect and planning consultant. Sergeriver? ...He owns a travel agency. Method? ...he has a host of qualifications after his name and a successful career. What personal failures are these "lefties" blaming on you exactly?

You are a productive contributor to society, and I commend you for that, but please don't labour under the idea that being successful and contributing to society is purely the reserve of the right-wing because it simply is not true.

Good post Braddock, and I can't answer that, only to say I was speaking generally about those have nots, blaming those that have. I was not being specific.