lowing
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DonFck wrote:

lowing wrote:

DonFck wrote:


It certainly was at the heart of the fuckup.

No, Obama is not communist. He's left-leaning, but far from a communist. I suppose you'll soon be drawing parallels between Biden and Leon Trotsky?
lol, left LEANING, I''ll vote that for under-statement of the year.
Did you know that the Dems aren't regarded very leftist in E.g. Europe?
Did you know I do not live in Europe and really do not care? Germany elected Hitler and the rest of you let it all happen, so being great judges of political policy and big govt. control, is not your strong suit.
lowing
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

DonFck wrote:


It certainly was at the heart of the fuckup.

No, Obama is not communist. He's left-leaning, but far from a communist. I suppose you'll soon be drawing parallels between Biden and Leon Trotsky?
Been through this, all that had to happen was govt. ( democrats) keeping their noses out of the housing market ( the root cause for this) with their ingenious attitude that a house is a right and not to be earned and their community reinvestment act.
Your views of economy is still blurred I notice ...
Sorry Varegg, rewind the footage, the housing market started this whole mess, and the democrats pushing for homes that people could not afford started the housing market problems.
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lowing wrote:

DonFck wrote:

lowing wrote:


lol, left LEANING, I''ll vote that for under-statement of the year.
Did you know that the Dems aren't regarded very leftist in E.g. Europe?
Did you know I do not live in Europe and really do not care? Germany elected Hitler and the rest of you let it all happen, so being great judges of political policy and big govt. control, is not your strong suit.
Okay ... are you trying to look stupid or is it a birthperk?
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lowing
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

DonFck wrote:


Did you know that the Dems aren't regarded very leftist in E.g. Europe?
Did you know I do not live in Europe and really do not care? Germany elected Hitler and the rest of you let it all happen, so being great judges of political policy and big govt. control, is not your strong suit.
Okay ... are you trying to look stupid or is it a birthperk?
DId I say something that is NOT true?
AussieReaper
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lowing wrote:

Did you know I do not live in Europe and really do not care? Germany elected Hitler and the rest of you let it all happen, so being great judges of political policy and big govt. control, is not your strong suit.
That must be why the US we're the first to declare war on Germany.

Wait, no they weren't.

Not in WWI or II.
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lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:


Been through this, all that had to happen was govt. ( democrats) keeping their noses out of the housing market ( the root cause for this) with their ingenious attitude that a house is a right and not to be earned and their community reinvestment act.
Your views of economy is still blurred I notice ...
Sorry Varegg, rewind the footage, the housing market started this whole mess, and the democrats pushing for homes that people could not afford started the housing market problems.
That's the ignorant approach lowing, by that statement you prove again and again that you don't understand how economy works ... I don't know how many posts I and others have made about just that issue and still you use the same BS argument ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
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lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:


Did you know I do not live in Europe and really do not care? Germany elected Hitler and the rest of you let it all happen, so being great judges of political policy and big govt. control, is not your strong suit.
Okay ... are you trying to look stupid or is it a birthperk?
DId I say something that is NOT true?
No ... just totally irrelevant ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
lowing
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AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

Did you know I do not live in Europe and really do not care? Germany elected Hitler and the rest of you let it all happen, so being great judges of political policy and big govt. control, is not your strong suit.
That must be why the US we're the first to declare war on Germany.

Wait, no they weren't.

Not in WWI or II.
I didn't say war, I said Europe let Hitler come to power when they had over a decade to see what was coming and did nothing. In effect waiting until it was too late.

and by the way, it was Germany that declared war on Europe.
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lowing wrote:

Did you know I do not live in Europe and really do not care?
I did know that you don't live in Europe, but a small town in Georgia. I also know that you don't care (read:know).

But if you insist on talking about political ideologies, do speak of them with their right names. Your personal idea of communism = our centrist conservative.
I need around tree fiddy.
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lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

Did you know I do not live in Europe and really do not care? Germany elected Hitler and the rest of you let it all happen, so being great judges of political policy and big govt. control, is not your strong suit.
That must be why the US we're the first to declare war on Germany.

Wait, no they weren't.

Not in WWI or II.
I didn't say war, I said Europe let Hitler come to power when they had over a decade to see what was coming and did nothing. In effect waiting until it was too late.

and by the way, it was Germany that declared war on Europe.
It was Britain and France that declared war, Hitler declared was on Russia later on ...
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lowing wrote:

I didn't say war, I said Europe let Hitler come to power when they had over a decade to see what was coming and did nothing. In effect waiting until it was too late.
If you want to do this off-topic thing, then: The U.S. funded and encouraged Saddam to power in Iraq (1979), then had over two decades to see what was coming and did nothing until 1990.
I need around tree fiddy.
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lowing wrote:

I didn't say war, I said Europe let Hitler come to power when they had over a decade to see what was coming and did nothing. In effect waiting until it was too late.

and by the way, it was Germany that declared war on Europe.
Germany didn't declare war on "Europe" that's the first thing you don't understand. France and Britain declared war on Germany after the invasion of Polland.

Germany later declared war on Russia.
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:


Your views of economy is still blurred I notice ...
Sorry Varegg, rewind the footage, the housing market started this whole mess, and the democrats pushing for homes that people could not afford started the housing market problems.
That's the ignorant approach lowing, by that statement you prove again and again that you don't understand how economy works ... I don't know how many posts I and others have made about just that issue and still you use the same BS argument ...
Then tell it to the "experts"
that you on a gaming forum know more than the they do.

http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/ … 56d3f55c46
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lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Sorry Varegg, rewind the footage, the housing market started this whole mess, and the democrats pushing for homes that people could not afford started the housing market problems.
That's the ignorant approach lowing, by that statement you prove again and again that you don't understand how economy works ... I don't know how many posts I and others have made about just that issue and still you use the same BS argument ...
Then tell it to the "experts"
that you on a gaming forum know more than the they do.

http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/ … 56d3f55c46
They seem to know, you don't.

lowings link wrote:

"Many economists, including Scott, believe tighter regulation could have prevented the crisis."
Regulation = Government
I need around tree fiddy.
lowing
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:


Okay ... are you trying to look stupid or is it a birthperk?
DId I say something that is NOT true?
No ... just totally irrelevant ...
Nothing irrelevant about it, you love Obama, well, ya also appeased Hitler, uhhhhh BEFORE he kicked your asses. So yes, your judgment of political leaders and their and their intentions is very relevant. You suck at it.
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lowing wrote:

Then tell it to the "experts"
that you on a gaming forum know more than the they do.

http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/ … 56d3f55c46
Gus Faucher, the Director of Macroeconomics at the economic website Moody's Economy.com, is one of many experts who say the crisis began in the U.S. housing market.
That's your expert? A Director of Macroeconomics of the website Moody's Economy.com ?

Oh it gets better:

Robert Reich, who was Labor Secretary under President Bill Clinton, says the troubles have worsened to this point because there was not enough regulation of the financial industry between 2002 and 2006, when the economy was strong. 

"Wall Street increased its borrowing dramatically.  Our financial institutions increased borrowing much faster than economic growth.  Individuals increased their borrowing, also, much faster than economic growth.  But nobody was minding the store.  Our regulators were not overseeing the system to make sure that there was adequate disclosure (and) capital requirements, so that information could get to the right people at the right time.  The system was no longer transparent," he said.
Who dropped the ball then?

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lowing wrote:

ya also appeased Hitler, uhhhhh BEFORE he kicked your asses.
Hitler never kicked my ass, did he?
I need around tree fiddy.
lowing
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DonFck wrote:

lowing wrote:

Did you know I do not live in Europe and really do not care?
I did know that you don't live in Europe, but a small town in Georgia. I also know that you don't care (read:know).

But if you insist on talking about political ideologies, do speak of them with their right names. Your personal idea of communism = our centrist conservative.
and your version of liberalism has nothing to do with liberals in America. I live here, so when I speak of our politial labels I will use those that are relevant to the US.
DonFck
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lowing wrote:

DonFck wrote:

lowing wrote:

Did you know I do not live in Europe and really do not care?
I did know that you don't live in Europe, but a small town in Georgia. I also know that you don't care (read:know).

But if you insist on talking about political ideologies, do speak of them with their right names. Your personal idea of communism = our centrist conservative.
and your version of liberalism has nothing to do with liberals in America. I live here, so when I speak of our politial labels I will use those that are relevant to the US.
I'd say that "isms" are the same globally. You just use the wrong names.
I need around tree fiddy.
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lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:


DId I say something that is NOT true?
No ... just totally irrelevant ...
Nothing irrelevant about it, you love Obama, well, ya also appeased Hitler, uhhhhh BEFORE he kicked your asses. So yes, your judgment of political leaders and their and their intentions is very relevant. You suck at it.
Wtf are you talking about?

You should read up on how and why Hitler came to power and you wouldn't hurl bullshit comments like this so easily around ... you are so totally fucking ignorant on so many issues it's scary ...
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Bush had eight years to reverse some of the 'damage' done by previous admins to the economy.
He chose not to.
Seems the argument ends there.
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lowing
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AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

Then tell it to the "experts"
that you on a gaming forum know more than the they do.

http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/ … 56d3f55c46
Gus Faucher, the Director of Macroeconomics at the economic website Moody's Economy.com, is one of many experts who say the crisis began in the U.S. housing market.
That's your expert? A Director of Macroeconomics of the website Moody's Economy.com ?

Oh it gets better:

Robert Reich, who was Labor Secretary under President Bill Clinton, says the troubles have worsened to this point because there was not enough regulation of the financial industry between 2002 and 2006, when the economy was strong. 

"Wall Street increased its borrowing dramatically.  Our financial institutions increased borrowing much faster than economic growth.  Individuals increased their borrowing, also, much faster than economic growth.  But nobody was minding the store.  Our regulators were not overseeing the system to make sure that there was adequate disclosure (and) capital requirements, so that information could get to the right people at the right time.  The system was no longer transparent," he said.
Who dropped the ball then?
Key word here Varegg is "STARTED"

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/07 … fanni.html


http://digitalartpress.wordpress.com/20 … ic-crisis/
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lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:


Sorry Varegg, rewind the footage, the housing market started this whole mess, and the democrats pushing for homes that people could not afford started the housing market problems.
That's the ignorant approach lowing, by that statement you prove again and again that you don't understand how economy works ... I don't know how many posts I and others have made about just that issue and still you use the same BS argument ...
Then tell it to the "experts"
that you on a gaming forum know more than the they do.

http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/ … 56d3f55c46
No sound economic experts blame the democrats alone as you do lowing ... the experts pretty much have the exact same view as your debating opponents in this thread ...
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lowing
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DonFck wrote:

lowing wrote:

DonFck wrote:


I did know that you don't live in Europe, but a small town in Georgia. I also know that you don't care (read:know).

But if you insist on talking about political ideologies, do speak of them with their right names. Your personal idea of communism = our centrist conservative.
and your version of liberalism has nothing to do with liberals in America. I live here, so when I speak of our politial labels I will use those that are relevant to the US.
I'd say that "isms" are the same globally. You just use the wrong names.
Not harldy, remember, you have Obama and Clinton os leaning to the right. We are not on the same page with this
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lowing wrote:

DonFck wrote:

lowing wrote:


and your version of liberalism has nothing to do with liberals in America. I live here, so when I speak of our politial labels I will use those that are relevant to the US.
I'd say that "isms" are the same globally. You just use the wrong names.
Not harldy, remember, you have Obama and Clinton os leaning to the right. We are not on the same page with this
Clearly not. I'm using terms correctly.
I need around tree fiddy.

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