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http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/02/ … ck.victim/

Woman blinded by acid wants same fate for attacker

TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Ameneh Bahrami is certain that one day she'll meet someone, fall in love and get married. But when her wedding day comes, her husband won't see her eyes, and she won't see her husband. Bahrami is blind, the victim of an acid attack by a spurned suitor.
Ameneh Bahrami said her attacker pestered her with marriage demands.

Ameneh Bahrami said her attacker pestered her with marriage demands.


If she gets her way, her attacker will suffer the same fate. The 31-year-old Iranian is demanding the ancient punishment of "an eye for an eye," and, in accordance with Islamic law, she wants to blind Majid Movahedi, the man who blinded her.

"I don't want to blind him for revenge," Bahrami said in her parents' Tehran apartment. "I'm doing this to prevent it from happening to someone else."

Bahrami says she first crossed paths with Movahedi in 2002, when they attended the same university.

She was a 24-year-old electronics student. He was 19. She never noticed him until they shared a class. He sat next to her one day and brushed up against her. Bahrami says she knew it wasn't an accident.

"I moved away from him," she said, "but he brushed up against me again." Video Watch Bahrami return to the attack scene for the first time »

When Bahrami stood up in class and screamed for him to stop, Movahedi just looked at her in stunned silence. He wouldn't stay silent for long.

Bahrami said that over the next two years, Movahedi kept harassing her and making threats, even as he asked her to marry him. "He told me he would kill me. He said, 'You have to say yes.' "

On a November afternoon in 2004, Movahedi's threats turned to violence.

That day at 4:30 p.m., Bahrami left the medical engineering company where she worked. As she walked to the bus stop, she remembers sensing someone behind her.

She turned around and was startled to see Movahedi. A moment later came the agonizing pain. Movahedi had thrown something over her. What felt like fire on her face was acid searing through her skin.

"I was just yelling, 'I'm burning! I'm burning! For God's sake, somebody help me!' "

The acid seeped into Bahrami's eyes and streamed down her face and into her mouth. When she covered her face with her hands, streaks of acid ran down her fingers and onto her forearms.

Two weeks after the attack, Movahedi turned himself in to police and confessed in court. He was convicted in 2005 and has been behind bars all along.

Bahrami's lawyer, Ali Sarrafi, said Movahedi had never shown any remorse. "He says he did it because he loved her," Sarrafi said.

Attack victims in Iran usually accept "blood money": a fine in lieu of harsh punishment. With no insurance and mounting medical bills, Bahrami could've used the cash, but she said no.

"I told the judge I want an eye for an eye," Bahrami said. "People like him should be made to feel my suffering."

Bahrami's demand has outraged some human rights activists. Criticizing acid-attack victims is almost unheard of, but some Internet bloggers have condemned Bahrami's decision.

"We cannot condone such cruel punishment," wrote one blogger. "To willingly inflict the same treatment on a person under court order is a violation of human rights."

Late last year, an Iranian court gave Bahrami what she asked for. It sentenced Movahedi to be blinded with drops of acid in each eye. This month, the courts rejected Movahedi's appeal.

Bahrami's lawyer, Sarrafi, said the sentencing might be carried out in a matter of weeks. He said he doesn't think Bahrami will change her mind. Neither does Bahrami.

"If I don't do this and there is another acid attack, I will never forgive myself for as long as I live," she said.

Bahrami is largely self-sufficient despite not being able to see. She can make a salad, prepare tea and walk up the five flights of stairs that lead to her parents' apartment.

She has undergone more than a dozen surgeries on her badly scarred face, but she says there are many more to come. She can't afford to pay for her medical care, so she's using the Internet to raise money.

She's lost her big brown eyes, but she likes to smile, especially when she imagines her wedding day.

"I always see myself as someone who can see and sometimes see myself in a beautiful wedding gown, and why not?"
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Isn't this two eyes for two eyes?
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eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
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I'd want my attacker to know how it feels too. The feeling of never knowing if there's hair in your food would drive me insane.
Harmor
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Macbeth wrote:

eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
mouth for a mouth leaves the whole world mimed.
Ajax_the_Great1
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Macbeth wrote:

eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
No, just the victims and inflictors of eye blindings. The rest of us can still see.
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This stuck out to me:
Criticizing acid-attack victims is almost unheard of, but some Internet bloggers have condemned Bahrami's decision.
Other than thiat I can't say much.  Really hard for me to justify a person getting acid thrown on their face, and even harder for me to justify it happening twice.
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Wreckognize wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/02/19/acid.attack.victim/

"We cannot condone such cruel punishment," wrote one blogger. "To willingly inflict the same treatment on a person under court order is a violation of human rights."
/facepalm
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Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
No, just the victims and inflictors of eye blindings. The rest of us can still see.
It mean seeking out revenge for everything will only hurt everyone in the long run. If I sought revenge on everyone that ever wronged or pissed me off there would be a lot of blind folks.
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Macbeth wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
No, just the victims and inflictors of eye blindings. The rest of us can still see.
It mean seeking out revenge for everything will only hurt everyone in the long run. If I sought revenge on everyone that ever wronged or pissed me off there would be a lot of blind folks.
Thats why you don't blind people for every act of wrongdoing. The punishment has to fit the crime.

Is punishment regarded as revenge to you as well?
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Imprisonment isn't enough for blatantly throwing acid in an innocent woman's face causing physical and mental pain, disfiguring and blinding her for life. While this is inhumane he 100% deserves it.
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Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

No, just the victims and inflictors of eye blindings. The rest of us can still see.
It mean seeking out revenge for everything will only hurt everyone in the long run. If I sought revenge on everyone that ever wronged or pissed me off there would be a lot of blind folks.
Thats why you don't blind people for every act of wrongdoing. The punishment has to fit the crime.

Is punishment regarded as revenge to you as well?
What I meant by that last line wasn't that I was going to go around blinding everyone that angered me. It meant that if I chose to seek revenge on everyone there would be a lot of hurt people.

A just as fitting punishment would be life imprisonment for this crime.

No it isn't I just don't like the whole eye for an eye logic to things.

I'm really betraying my name here sometimes.

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Macbeth wrote:

What I meant by that last line wasn't that I was going to go around blinding everyone that angered me. It meant that if I chose to seek revenge on everyone there would be a lot of hurt people.

A just as fitting punishment would be life imprisonment for this crime.

No it isn't I just don't like the whole eye for an eye logic to things.
I doubt he would get life for what he did, and he didnt only anger her he blinded and disfigured her for life, think about if that happened to you after he purposley threw acid in your face.
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Roc18 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

What I meant by that last line wasn't that I was going to go around blinding everyone that angered me. It meant that if I chose to seek revenge on everyone there would be a lot of hurt people.

A just as fitting punishment would be life imprisonment for this crime.

No it isn't I just don't like the whole eye for an eye logic to things.
I doubt he would get life for what he did, and he didnt only anger her he blinded and disfigured her for life, think about if that happened to you after he purposley threw acid in your face.
Fine, blind him. Lets all start using the eye for eye logic for everything.

Have a disagreement with someone it turns into a fight and continues from there. In a moment of violence someone is stabbed and killed. that person's family or friends then goes and kills you or a member of your family and it continues from there. More and more people are killed out of vengeance until two star crossed lovers commit suicide.

It is a very bad precedent.
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Macbeth wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:


It mean seeking out revenge for everything will only hurt everyone in the long run. If I sought revenge on everyone that ever wronged or pissed me off there would be a lot of blind folks.
Thats why you don't blind people for every act of wrongdoing. The punishment has to fit the crime.

Is punishment regarded as revenge to you as well?
What I meant by that last line wasn't that I was going to go around blinding everyone that angered me. It meant that if I chose to seek revenge on everyone there would be a lot of hurt people.

A just as fitting punishment would be life imprisonment for this crime.

No it isn't I just don't like the whole eye for an eye logic to things.

I'm really betraying my name here sometimes.
So by that logic, doesn't punishing people for their crimes make the whole world in prison?
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Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:


Thats why you don't blind people for every act of wrongdoing. The punishment has to fit the crime.

Is punishment regarded as revenge to you as well?
What I meant by that last line wasn't that I was going to go around blinding everyone that angered me. It meant that if I chose to seek revenge on everyone there would be a lot of hurt people.

A just as fitting punishment would be life imprisonment for this crime.

No it isn't I just don't like the whole eye for an eye logic to things.

I'm really betraying my name here sometimes.
So by that logic, doesn't punishing people for their crimes make the whole world in prison?
Negative.

Putting people into a prison for their crimes is reasonable. It is punishment not revenge.
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Macbeth wrote:

Roc18 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

What I meant by that last line wasn't that I was going to go around blinding everyone that angered me. It meant that if I chose to seek revenge on everyone there would be a lot of hurt people.

A just as fitting punishment would be life imprisonment for this crime.

No it isn't I just don't like the whole eye for an eye logic to things.
I doubt he would get life for what he did, and he didnt only anger her he blinded and disfigured her for life, think about if that happened to you after he purposley threw acid in your face.
Fine, blind him. Lets all start using the eye for eye logic for everything.

Have a disagreement with someone it turns into a fight and continues from there. In a moment of violence someone is stabbed and killed. that person's family or friends then goes and kills you or a member of your family and it continues from there. More and more people are killed out of vengeance until two star crossed lovers commit suicide.

It is a very bad precedent.
Well Im just arguing that he deserves what he has coming to him, I stated that It was inhumane in my other post and I dont think this is the right way to go about it but he really deserves it.
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Roc18 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Roc18 wrote:


I doubt he would get life for what he did, and he didnt only anger her he blinded and disfigured her for life, think about if that happened to you after he purposley threw acid in your face.
Fine, blind him. Lets all start using the eye for eye logic for everything.

Have a disagreement with someone it turns into a fight and continues from there. In a moment of violence someone is stabbed and killed. that person's family or friends then goes and kills you or a member of your family and it continues from there. More and more people are killed out of vengeance until two star crossed lovers commit suicide.

It is a very bad precedent.
Well Im just arguing that he deserves what he has coming to him, I stated that It was inhumane in my other post and I dont think this is the right way to go about it but he really deserves it.
We all have done something to deserve a harsh act of revenge upon us and we all have it coming. But for to give the government a hand in it, isn't reasonable.

Also if he is blinded be prepared for another thread in a few weeks about how the Iranians are violating human rights by blinding him.
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Macbeth wrote:

Roc18 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

What I meant by that last line wasn't that I was going to go around blinding everyone that angered me. It meant that if I chose to seek revenge on everyone there would be a lot of hurt people.

A just as fitting punishment would be life imprisonment for this crime.

No it isn't I just don't like the whole eye for an eye logic to things.
I doubt he would get life for what he did, and he didnt only anger her he blinded and disfigured her for life, think about if that happened to you after he purposley threw acid in your face.
Fine, blind him. Lets all start using the eye for eye logic for everything.

Have a disagreement with someone it turns into a fight and continues from there. In a moment of violence someone is stabbed and killed. that person's family or friends then goes and kills you or a member of your family and it continues from there. More and more people are killed out of vengeance until two star crossed lovers commit suicide.

It is a very bad precedent.
You're making an incorrect logical leap here.

The state is the only entity allowed to dole out the punishment (or revenge). The perpetrator's punishment is to have the exact same thing done to them (and only them, not their family)...by the state, not the victim or their family. It stops there.
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I got a better idea. Just cap the attackers in the head and be done with it.

If you're going to have Arabic justice, it should be cheap and efficient.
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Turquoise wrote:

I got a better idea. Just cap the attackers in the head and be done with it.

If you're going to have Arabic justice, it should be cheap and efficient.
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Turquoise
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That works too...  Nice sword...
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Macbeth wrote:

eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
Half blind.
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whats with muslims and tossing acid on women?  for not covering themselves up?  wtf.  bunch of homos or something.
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usmarine wrote:

whats with muslims and tossing acid on women?  for not covering themselves up?  wtf.  bunch of homos or something.
This was over a jilted sutor.

*edit:  And apparently it is the latest rage over there..  Fucking wierdos.

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2009-02-20 17:56:02)

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