ATG
Banned
+5,233|6832|Global Command
That'd be...all of us, with one exception.


I know I am supossed to feel good about the stimulus. After all, I am a prime canidate for the mortgage plan unveiled Wednesday. I expect to get a fixed rate, a reduced princible and and payment of about $1,900.00 per month. Great.


To those who still have equity who will get little or nothing, sorry about that. It was not bad choices that put me here, it was personal misfortune. To those that have already foreclosed, you blew it; if you had just hanged on a little longer you would have been able to have the government renegotiate your contract.

renegotiate your contract...

If I was in the contract writting business ( oh wait ) and I knew that somebody outside of the deal could step in a rewrite the deal, I would feel disinclined to write deals in the first place. After all, a deal's a deal, and if a deal isn't a deal why should I deal? If I had bought say, ten years ago I would have equity still, and I would be pissed that there is nothing of substance in their for me; I would have lost value and savings too. Why should I play by the rules when the rules hardly acknowledge my existence? If I owned a struggling business ( oh wait thar too ) I would be just a little bitter that MY tax money was going to mega corporations whos big wigs still fly around in private jets. I would feel like I had been cheated by the system and more likely to look for loopholes and whatnots, to make sure no more of my money went to these assholes.

Having seen inflation begin to kick in, I have to say it seems to me any gains I get in my mortgage will be offset by the devaluing of our currency. It seems to be we are all losers in this stimulus, except perhaps the power mad fools who crafted this stinker; thier obvious goals being to make people more dependent on them.
AussieReaper
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ATG wrote:

I know I am supossed to feel good about the stimulus. After all, I am a prime canidate for the mortgage plan unveiled Wednesday. I expect to get a fixed rate, a reduced princible and and payment of about $1,900.00 per month. Great.
Some good news at least, hang in there.

About the contract renegotiations though, it goes down to the fact that the govt. can create a new law and then act on them retrospectively. They could create a law against wearing pants and then arrest you for wearing pants in the past if they really wanted to.

But if the banks get a raw deal out of the renegotiation I say too bad for you, but you've just been given a lot of tax payer money to recover your losses with and it's about time they started to feel more pressure and competition, which imo was one of the factors that led to this situation.
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ATG
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13rin
Member
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cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6999|NJ
Yeah ATG it sucks and it's really fucking with my business with where the bond is right now the good credit people should be getting rates in the low 4's even high 3's.. But with the power struggle(when ever the govenment steps in) going on between the fed and the bank the banks are playing by the rules they set up..

P.S. this also isn't going to help the economic crisis at all, all it's going to do is keep people in there houses and the movement is going to stop.. A big part of our economy is based on migration and having the ability to move to greener pastures.. Now ATG I'm sure that you're not going to be able to sell your house or wouldn't want to because you're probably very unsure that you'd be able to buy an other one..
BVC
Member
+325|6999
ATG, you'll still have a roof over your head.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

P.S. this also isn't going to help the economic crisis at all, all it's going to do is keep people in there houses and the movement is going to stop.. A big part of our economy is based on migration and having the ability to move to greener pastures.. Now ATG I'm sure that you're not going to be able to sell your house or wouldn't want to because you're probably very unsure that you'd be able to buy an other one..
It will help some.  First of all, the banks are seeing their balance sheets go to hell as they continue to have foreclosed assets on their books.  This is one of the main reasons for the credit crunch.

Secondly, as more homes are foreclosed, the glut of homes on the market drives down the prices.  This reduces the equity in a home, or has many upside down in their mortgage.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina
Yep, inflation is gonna kick our asses very soon.
JahManRed
wank
+646|6931|IRELAND

Good news for ATG at last. Keep the faith.

I am on a fixed rate mortgage for another year. Its costing me £100 a week.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7065

lesson one.  dont buy things you cant afford when things get tough.

lesson two.  dont buy a house in a overblown market.

lesson three.  dont bitch about the stimulus when there are those of us who aint going to see a dime yet are forced to fork over our money anyway.

Last edited by usmarine (2009-02-19 16:16:04)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6832|Global Command

usmarine wrote:

lesson one.  dont buy things you cant afford when things get tough.
tbh, I didn't want to buy. I knew some sort of reckoning was coming. People have seen tough times before jarhead, they haven't seen a 50% cut in property values and our economic system reportedly in full collapse. tough times are when you break your leg or have to relocate for work. Calamity is when your business gross revenues cut by 90%, everybody has lost all equity and fear mongering in Washingtons makes us collectively shit ourselves. Where in the fuck in the whole of the U.S. is construction booming? Manufactoring? Car sales?
Simple answers may look cool on a gaming forum but simply demonstrate your lack of experience with life.

usmarine wrote:

lesson two.  dont buy a house in a overblown market.
See above.
The push for me was because my landlord died and the house I was renting for 1/3 my mortgage went into escrow. I had one child and one on the way. People were making a killing buying houses. It was the only path to real wealth offered a normal person. It was the American dream. I knew there would be a correction, but again, a 50% drop in value and falling? Nobody foresaw that. Why do you thinks banks are going under?

usmarine wrote:

lesson three.  dont bitch about the stimulus when there are those of us who aint going to see a dime yet are forced to fork over our money anyway.
You work for an airline that will probably stay alive because of government subsidies, no?



cpt.fass1 wrote:

Now ATG I'm sure that you're not going to be able to sell your house or wouldn't want to because you're probably very unsure that you'd be able to buy an other one..
One of the things I have going in my favor is that my home is all in my name. My wife has decent credit and the only issue is I can only document her monthly income in terms of her deposit records, not payroll per se. One of my struggles is that it actually may make better sense to let this thing foreclose and buy again in her name at the bottom. Many financial advisors are saying don't throw good money after bad or chase a upside down mortgage. The wild card is the economy; will it stabilize? Will we be given a refi at current market value with a fixed rate because of O?

So no, I wouldn't sell, I would just sqawt until it foreclosed and save as much money as I could ( why not, millions are doing it? ). The why not is fundamentally a deal is a deal. I will pay as long as I am able and only walk if the value goes in the tank further and for the long haul and the banks won't do anything with all this tax money to help me.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6904|132 and Bush

ATG wrote:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1039849853
For great success.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7065

ATG wrote:

Simple answers may look cool on a gaming forum but simply demonstrate your lack of experience with life.
right right.  i have had just as many issues if not more than you.  go cry me a river.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina
Rick Santelli has some good ideas, but I swear...  he sounds like he's either constipated or hyped up on crack.  lol

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