M.O.A.B
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 895123.stm

Somehow, bizarrely, this doesn't strike me as unusual for Hamas.

Question now is whether this ordnance is going to end up flying over the border or being packed into a truck and detonated somewhere in one of Hamas' urban improvement programs.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
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Good ol' Hamas.
ATG
Banned
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Finders keepers.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
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Who were the smart idiots who decided to let Hamas guard the stockpile anyway, meh, that's just part of the war anyway. Bound to happen, especially with the amount of Ordinance that Israel used.
mafia996630
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Putting aside all the terrorist shit aside, i don't see anything  wrong with stealing munitions.
Macbeth
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mafia996630 wrote:

Putting aside all the terrorist shit aside, i don't see anything  wrong with stealing munitions.
Either can I, I'm going to go steal from the Police lockup later myself.
rdx-fx
...
+955|6851

mafia996630 wrote:

Putting aside all the terrorist shit aside, i don't see anything  wrong with stealing munitions.
Putting all the crazy aside, I don't see anything wrong with steak knives in the psych ward.
mafia996630
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rdx-fx wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Putting aside all the terrorist shit aside, i don't see anything  wrong with stealing munitions.
Putting all the crazy aside, I don't see anything wrong with steak knives in the psych ward.
If you put the crazy shit aside then it wouldn't be a psych ward, it would just be a ward. They probably don't have steak knives in wards, but they would still have some knives.

Edit: Like I said, if you put the terrorist shit aside, then it just a "beef"  between a stone age militant group and a vastly superior army. Nothing wrong with taking munitions that were dropped to blow innocent people up with originally.

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mafia996630
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Macbeth wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Putting aside all the terrorist shit aside, i don't see anything  wrong with stealing munitions.
Either can I, I'm going to go steal from the Police lockup later myself.
Wow, your comparison couldn't be more wrong. 

I wont go into explaining what I said as I don't think I need to. But I will say this, lets say your on the battlefield and on the ground you see a weapon which is a lot better then yours. Would you not pick it up and make use of it ? Of course you fuking would.

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M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
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mafia996630 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Putting aside all the terrorist shit aside, i don't see anything  wrong with stealing munitions.
Either can I, I'm going to go steal from the Police lockup later myself.
Wow, your comparisons couldn't be more wrong. 

I wont go into explaining what I said as I don't think I need to. But I will say this, lets say your on the battlefield and on the ground you see a weapon which is a lot better then yours. Would you not pick it up and make use of it ? Of course you fuking would.
That's the thing though, the UN is disarming leftover explosives to prevent further civilian casualtions from UXO. Hamas was put in charge of guarding it and all they've done is prevent the weapons being disarmed so they can use them for their own needs, which doesn't point to obeying any cease-fire that comes about.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6707|Chicago, IL
Live munitions?

Hamas are idiots aren't they?  Those munitions were fired but not detonated, any jarring could set them off....
mafia996630
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M.O.A.B wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Either can I, I'm going to go steal from the Police lockup later myself.
Wow, your comparisons couldn't be more wrong. 

I wont go into explaining what I said as I don't think I need to. But I will say this, lets say your on the battlefield and on the ground you see a weapon which is a lot better then yours. Would you not pick it up and make use of it ? Of course you fuking would.
That's the thing though, the UN is disarming leftover explosives to prevent further civilian casualtions from UXO. Hamas was put in charge of guarding it and all they've done is prevent the weapons being disarmed so they can use them for their own needs, which doesn't point to obeying any cease-fire that comes about.
First of all, they really ant a cease fire in place. Check the news, shit is still happening, just on a smaller scale.

Many of the explosives had been collected by the Hamas authorities in the Gaza Strip.

The UN staff had been waiting for the Israeli army to allow them to bring specialist equipment into Gaza so they would be able to destroy the explosives safely.

In particular, the team needed explosives or flares to set off a controlled explosion and they needed tools to allow them to extract fuses from some of the bombs.

The UN staff were also waiting for permission from the Israeli military to use two safe areas to dispose of the munitions.
You have to keep it mind the fact that (as the article says)  Hamas collected the gear and were guarding it for the UN BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCH GOOD PEOPLE. I think we should blame the isreali for taken so long to give permission, if they had not taken so long, maybe Hamas would not have had enough time to change their mind.


The whole "disarming leftover explosives to prevent further civilian casualtions " would be a good point, but doesn't really have the effect your thinking about. If they mines for example, then fair enough. But we're talking about 500 pound bombs here, big difference.

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Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6802|Texas - Bigger than France

mafia996630 wrote:

Putting aside all the terrorist shit aside, i don't see anything  wrong with stealing munitions.
I agree with you.  It's more important than peace.
mafia996630
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Pug wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Putting aside all the terrorist shit aside, i don't see anything  wrong with stealing munitions.
I agree with you.  It's more important than peace.
Because that's what i said right ?
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6802|Texas - Bigger than France

mafia996630 wrote:

Pug wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Putting aside all the terrorist shit aside, i don't see anything  wrong with stealing munitions.
I agree with you.  It's more important than peace.
Because that's what i said right ?
I think you were praising the fact that its better for everyone to continue fighting.  I think that is awesome.
mafia996630
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Pug wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Pug wrote:


I agree with you.  It's more important than peace.
Because that's what i said right ?
I think you were praising the fact that its better for everyone to continue fighting.  I think that is awesome.
Really ? : 0 . What made you think that ?
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6483|Escea

mafia996630 wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:


Wow, your comparisons couldn't be more wrong. 

I wont go into explaining what I said as I don't think I need to. But I will say this, lets say your on the battlefield and on the ground you see a weapon which is a lot better then yours. Would you not pick it up and make use of it ? Of course you fuking would.
That's the thing though, the UN is disarming leftover explosives to prevent further civilian casualtions from UXO. Hamas was put in charge of guarding it and all they've done is prevent the weapons being disarmed so they can use them for their own needs, which doesn't point to obeying any cease-fire that comes about.
First of all, they really ant a cease fire in place. Check the news, shit is still happening, just on a smaller scale.

Many of the explosives had been collected by the Hamas authorities in the Gaza Strip.

The UN staff had been waiting for the Israeli army to allow them to bring specialist equipment into Gaza so they would be able to destroy the explosives safely.

In particular, the team needed explosives or flares to set off a controlled explosion and they needed tools to allow them to extract fuses from some of the bombs.

The UN staff were also waiting for permission from the Israeli military to use two safe areas to dispose of the munitions.
You have to keep it mind the fact that (as the article says)  Hamas collected the gear and were guarding it for the UN BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCH GOOD PEOPLE. I think we should blame the isreali for taken so long to give permission, if they had not taken so long, maybe Hamas would not have had enough time to change their mind.


The whole "disarming leftover explosives to prevent further civilian casualtions " would be a good point, but doesn't really have the effect your thinking about. If they mines for example, then fair enough. But we're talking about 500 pound bombs here, big difference.
Well I didn't say they were in a cease-fire just that they probably wouldn't adhere to one anyway but whatever floats the boat.

Hmm, I don't see the difference between an unexploded mine and a five hundred pounder. Back in Vietnam the NVA used to employ people to strip down and disarm US bombs that failed to explode. These were 500 pounders and up and they still went off. Any kind of explosive will pose a threat no matter what type or size.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6802|Texas - Bigger than France
mafia:
Here's a thought - why am I expanding on your opinion?

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mafia996630
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M.O.A.B wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:


That's the thing though, the UN is disarming leftover explosives to prevent further civilian casualtions from UXO. Hamas was put in charge of guarding it and all they've done is prevent the weapons being disarmed so they can use them for their own needs, which doesn't point to obeying any cease-fire that comes about.
First of all, they really ant a cease fire in place. Check the news, shit is still happening, just on a smaller scale.

Many of the explosives had been collected by the Hamas authorities in the Gaza Strip.

The UN staff had been waiting for the Israeli army to allow them to bring specialist equipment into Gaza so they would be able to destroy the explosives safely.

In particular, the team needed explosives or flares to set off a controlled explosion and they needed tools to allow them to extract fuses from some of the bombs.

The UN staff were also waiting for permission from the Israeli military to use two safe areas to dispose of the munitions.
You have to keep it mind the fact that (as the article says)  Hamas collected the gear and were guarding it for the UN BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCH GOOD PEOPLE. I think we should blame the isreali for taken so long to give permission, if they had not taken so long, maybe Hamas would not have had enough time to change their mind.


The whole "disarming leftover explosives to prevent further civilian casualtions " would be a good point, but doesn't really have the effect your thinking about. If they mines for example, then fair enough. But we're talking about 500 pound bombs here, big difference.
Well I didn't say they were in a cease-fire just that they probably wouldn't adhere to one anyway but whatever floats the boat.

Hmm, I don't see the difference between an unexploded mine and a five hundred pounder. Back in Vietnam the NVA used to employ people to strip down and disarm US bombs that failed to explode. These were 500 pounders and up and they still went off. Any kind of explosive will pose a threat no matter what type or size.
I get your point dude, but its not the case where children are playing in the field and suddenly one of them loses a leg or worse. Its more the fact that the bombs have been collected and were stored .If they were not collected then a 500 pound bomb sitting in the field is a pretty much no go area, and that is the difference.
mafia996630
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Pug wrote:

mafia:
Here's a thought - why am I expanding on your opinion?
Maybe you think i suck ?  or maybe you want me to think i suck but really you suck. Orrr maybe i want you to think i suck by you think you suck when you really do suck ?

OR maybe your playing freekkkkyyyy mind gamesss.

[insert Chris angel spoof video screenshot here]
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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mafia996630 wrote:

Nothing wrong with taking munitions that were dropped to blow innocent people up with originally.
One: Absolutely something wrong with taking munitions that they were supposed to be guarding for the UN. Did the UN give them permission to take the munitions? They were in effect in the custody of the UN...yet Hamas decided to take them.

Two: Those munitions were not "dropped to blow innocent people up" originally. They were dropped to take out specific, Hamas-related targets. The fact that there were civilians around was the fault of Hamas...and no one else.
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Those munitions won't be used to target Israel, they'll be used to target soft Palestinian targets - mosques, hospitals, schools etc.  These attacks will be blamed on Israel, and used to justify further attacks by Hamas.
mafia996630
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FEOS wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Nothing wrong with taking munitions that were dropped to blow innocent people up with originally.
One: Absolutely something wrong with taking munitions that they were supposed to be guarding for the UN. Did the UN give them permission to take the munitions? They were in effect in the custody of the UN...yet Hamas decided to take them.

Two: Those munitions were not "dropped to blow innocent people up" originally. They were dropped to take out specific, Hamas-related targets. The fact that there were civilians around was the fault of Hamas...and no one else.
One:Guarding for the UN ? CUstody of the UN? wtf. All of a sudden you think the UN controls Gaza,lulz. Hamas collected the explosives and then guarded it for the UN like the article says.

Two: Lets not go there again.
usmarine
Banned
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mafia996630 wrote:

FEOS wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Nothing wrong with taking munitions that were dropped to blow innocent people up with originally.
One: Absolutely something wrong with taking munitions that they were supposed to be guarding for the UN. Did the UN give them permission to take the munitions? They were in effect in the custody of the UN...yet Hamas decided to take them.

Two: Those munitions were not "dropped to blow innocent people up" originally. They were dropped to take out specific, Hamas-related targets. The fact that there were civilians around was the fault of Hamas...and no one else.
One:Guarding for the UN ? CUstody of the UN? wtf. All of a sudden you think the UN controls Gaza,lulz. Hamas collected the explosives and then guarded it for the UN like the article says.

Two: Lets not go there again.
you cant have this discussion with Turq.  he can discuss this topic from both sides, you are myopic.
mafia996630
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usmarine wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

FEOS wrote:


One: Absolutely something wrong with taking munitions that they were supposed to be guarding for the UN. Did the UN give them permission to take the munitions? They were in effect in the custody of the UN...yet Hamas decided to take them.

Two: Those munitions were not "dropped to blow innocent people up" originally. They were dropped to take out specific, Hamas-related targets. The fact that there were civilians around was the fault of Hamas...and no one else.
One:Guarding for the UN ? CUstody of the UN? wtf. All of a sudden you think the UN controls Gaza,lulz. Hamas collected the explosives and then guarded it for the UN like the article says.

Two: Lets not go there again.
you cant have this discussion with Turq.  he can discuss this topic from both sides, you are myopic.
huh,what ? MAKE SENSE!

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