US soldier who abandoned unit returns from Canada

2009-02-10 04:50:41

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killer21: Because f*ck you that's why.; +400|6583|Reisterstown, MD

AP Military Writer wrote:
SAVANNAH, Ga. — Sporting a dragon tattoo on his forearm and skulls on both biceps, Cliff Cornell's looks tough. But he dissolves into tears as he reflects on his return to the Army four years after he fled to Canada to avoid the war in Iraq.

"I'm nervous, scared," Cornell said, wiping puffy eyes beneath his sunglasses Monday at a Savannah hotel after a three-day bus ride from Seattle. "I'm just not a fighter. I know it sounds funny, but I have a really soft heart."

Cornell, 29, of Mountain Home, Ark., planned to turn himself in to military police Tuesday at nearby Fort Stewart, where he'll likely face criminal charges for abandoning his unit before it deployed to Iraq in January 2005.

He said he fled because he doesn't think the war has improved the lives of Iraqis, and he couldn't stomach the thought of killing.

"During my training, I was ordered that, if anyone came within so many feet of my vehicle, I was to shoot to kill," said Cornell, who enlisted in 2002 but never deployed to war. "I didn't join the military to kill innocents."

The Army artillery specialist made it to Canada in 2005 and soon started a new life working at a grocery store on Gabriola Island in British Columbia.

Cornell's exile ended last week when he crossed the U.S.-Canada border into Washington state. He left voluntarily to avoid deportation.

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I served nearly 8 years in the United States Marine Corps. I could never imagine deserting my fellow Marines because of my political views. I'm not sure I feel sorry for this person.

2009-02-10 04:52:35

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6642

How much time will he do?

2009-02-10 04:54:42

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6145|what

killer21 wrote:
I served nearly 8 years in the United States Marine Corps. I could never imagine deserting my fellow Marines because of my political views.

Not wanting to kill someone is a political view?

2009-02-10 04:57:23

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killer21: Because f*ck you that's why.; +400|6583|Reisterstown, MD

TheAussieReaper wrote:
Not wanting to kill someone is a political view?

In regards to the military, yes. I have my own views regarding life and all of that but if you take the oath when you join the military, there are certain things you are required to do, even at the expense of your own views on life.

ghettoperson wrote:
How much time will he do?

Probably something like 15-18 months.

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2009-02-10 05:12:36

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I-=C-A-V-E-M-A-N=-I: Member; +12|6363|Ohio

Hope he has fun at Levenworth or however you spell it.

2009-02-10 05:36:52

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Bull3t: stephen brule; +83|6294

Heh, This guy is like 20 minutes from me, How ironic.

But no, I would abandon my fellow marines. Regardless.

2009-02-10 18:05:29

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FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6403|'Murka

Bull3t wrote:
Heh, This guy is like 20 minutes from me, How ironic.

But no, I would abandon my fellow marines. Regardless.

You would? Or is that a typo?

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2009-02-10 18:11:56

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Catbox: forgiveness; +505|6709

Did he volunteer to serve... or was he forced? Enjoy prison...
Kinda glad this coward left his unit... He would have been a liability.

Love is the answer

2009-02-10 18:16:26

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SgtHeihn: Should have ducked; +394|6479|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)

Fuck him, let him rot in fucking jail. Coward.

2009-02-10 18:21:08

#10

GravyDan: Back from the Grave(y); +768|5925|CA

SgtHeihn wrote:
Fuck him, let him rot in fucking jail. Coward.

This says it all.

2009-02-10 19:44:18

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Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6709

[TUF]Catbox wrote:
Did he volunteer to serve... or was he forced? Enjoy prison...
Kinda glad this coward left his unit... He would have been a liability.

Volunteered imo

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2009-02-10 19:55:44

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usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6754

SgtHeihn wrote:
Fuck him, let him rot in fucking jail. Coward.

2009-02-10 20:57:34

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S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6511|Montucky

SgtHeihn wrote:
Fuck him, let him rot in fucking jail. Coward.

2009-02-10 21:22:33

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madmurre: I suspect something is amiss; +117|6703|Sweden

I dont see any real reason to go pissing on this guy he will pay his crime sure he should never have joined in first place. He did the right thing
( leaving ) or would you guys rather wanted him to go to Iraq shit scared thus risking his fellow comrades lifes instead.. I guess its also a marine-thing you guys have your standards i assume.

2009-02-10 21:24:27

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usmarine: Banned; +2,785|6754

madmurre wrote:
or would you guys rather wanted him to go to Iraq

yes he can go clean the shitters

2009-02-10 21:28:21

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madmurre: I suspect something is amiss; +117|6703|Sweden

usmarine wrote:
madmurre wrote:
or would you guys rather wanted him to go to Iraq
yes he can go clean the shitters

If that was an option i agree.

2009-02-11 02:53:46

#17

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6403|'Murka

madmurre wrote:
usmarine wrote:
madmurre wrote:
or would you guys rather wanted him to go to Iraq
yes he can go clean the shitters
If that was an option i agree.

That's always an option for douchebags like that guy.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2009-02-11 03:56:15

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rdx-fx: ...; +955|6584

Probably a good thing he figured out he was useless as a Marine before someone was counting on him in combat.

If he'd had any balls whatsoever, he wouldn't have run to Canada. He might've just gotten off with a General Discharge in that case.

Now, he gets to wear a Dishonorable Discharge on his resume for the rest of his life.

Good luck getting a job.. anywhere.. ever..

Asshole.

It's the Marines, FFS. What'd, he think he was going to be going door to door selling Avon, Amway, and Girl Scout Cookies? Holding a bake-sale to buy a new Osprey, perhaps?

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2009-02-11 03:59:58

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Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|6803|Nårvei

He should have thought about that before he joined tbh ... and there are plenty of options even in the millitary if said killings was against his belives ... I would gladly transfeer a man out of my unit if he couldn't cut it ...

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2009-02-11 04:18:48

#20

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6098|eXtreme to the maX

Didn't really make a great career choice if he didn't want to kill anyone.

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2009-02-11 13:22:08

#21

presidentsheep: Back to the Fuhrer; +208|5954|Places 'n such

I could understand this if he'd joined the caterin corps or something, but the marines ffs?? what'd he expect? dickhead.

I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.

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