Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6885|SE London

Two senior British judges accused the United States Wednesday of threatening to end intelligence cooperation with Britain if they published evidence about the alleged torture of a Guantanamo detainee.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNew … =worldNews

Cover ups and international blackmail?

Evidence of torture?

Sounds very shady....
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6526|Escea

Judges can end intelligence co-operation? Do they actually have that kind of authority?
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6885|SE London

M.O.A.B wrote:

Judges can end intelligence co-operation? Do they actually have that kind of authority?
No. The US intelligence services are threatening to end terrorism intelligence co-operation if the judges release the evidence. Therefore they have not released it.
mafia996630
© 2009 Jeff Minard
+319|7067|d
What a underhanded cunt move. US citizens should be ashamed.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6697|The Gem Saloon

mafia996630 wrote:

What a underhanded cunt move. US citizens should be ashamed.
what do US citizens have to do with this?


i mean, beyond your apparent hatred for anything that has to do with the US, of course.
mafia996630
© 2009 Jeff Minard
+319|7067|d

Parker wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

What a underhanded cunt move. US citizens should be ashamed.
what do US citizens have to do with this?


i mean, beyond your apparent hatred for anything that has to do with the US, of course.
Hatred for the US ? not at all. Don't get me wrong, i do hate bush.

And it has everything to do with US citizens, if they actually stood up for what they are suppose to stand for, their governments would not go around black mailing so called "friends" .
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6697|The Gem Saloon

mafia996630 wrote:

Hatred for the US ? not at all. Don't get me wrong, i do hate bush.
you hate america too...its cool man, no need to defend ignorance.

mafia996630 wrote:

And it has everything to do with US citizens, if they actually stood up for what they are suppose to stand for, their governments would not go around black mailing so called "friends" .
OH, so its my (and my fellow country mens) fault that this happened?



no, you dont hate america at all...i can tell
Lieutenant_Jensen
Your cops are corrupt.
+200|6694|fåking denmark

Parker wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

What a underhanded cunt move. US citizens should be ashamed.
what do US citizens have to do with this?


i mean, beyond your apparent hatred for anything that has to do with the US, of course.
I think I would be ashamed as an US citizen.

It somehow have something to do with them, since it's their country.
mafia996630
© 2009 Jeff Minard
+319|7067|d

Parker wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Hatred for the US ? not at all. Don't get me wrong, i do hate bush.
you hate america too...its cool man, no need to defend ignorance.

mafia996630 wrote:

And it has everything to do with US citizens, if they actually stood up for what they are suppose to stand for, their governments would not go around black mailing so called "friends" .
OH, so its my (and my fellow country mens) fault that this happened?



no, you dont hate america at all...i can tell
Prove i hate the US parker ?  i dare ya.

Also when did i say its the citizens fault ? Like I said before, US citizens should be ashamed, to put it in lamer terms, they should ashamed of their government.


fyi, if i did hate the US, you'll be the first one to know!

Last edited by mafia996630 (2009-02-04 13:20:57)

Parker
isteal
+1,452|6697|The Gem Saloon

mafia996630 wrote:

Prove i hate the US parker ?  i dare ya.
you dare me?
and what if i lose the dare? do you get the swing set for the rest of the week
not worth my time, and everyone already knows anyway...

mafia996630 wrote:

Also when did i say its the citizens fault ?
right here:

mafia996630 wrote:

And it has everything to do with US citizens, if they actually stood up for what they are suppose to stand for, their governments would not go around black mailing so called "friends" .
sounds to me like you are blaming US citizens cause they didnt "stand up for what they are suppose to stand for"...


mafia996630 wrote:

Like I said before, US citizens should be ashamed, to put it in lamer terms, they should ashamed of their government.
im not.







Lieutenant_Jensen wrote:

I think I would be ashamed as an US citizen.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=116362&p=1
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 2#p2462232
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 1#p2466991

you shouldnt talk about being ashamed of something
mafia996630
© 2009 Jeff Minard
+319|7067|d

Parker wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Prove i hate the US parker ?  i dare ya.
you dare me?
and what if i lose the dare? do you get the swing set for the rest of the week
not worth my time, and everyone already knows anyway...
You can't, because I don't hate the US. end off.


mafia996630 wrote:

Also when did i say its the citizens fault ?
right here:

mafia996630 wrote:

And it has everything to do with US citizens, if they actually stood up for what they are suppose to stand for, their governments would not go around black mailing so called "friends" .
sounds to me like you are blaming US citizens cause they didnt "stand up for what they are suppose to stand for"...
I am not blaming the citizens, but still think they should stand up for what they are suppose to stand for.Let take Guantanamo for example, in part it was due to pressure from US citizens (and others) that it will be closed down. And i applaud these people.

mafia996630 wrote:

Like I said before, US citizens should be ashamed, to put it in lamer terms, they should ashamed of their government.
im not.
Why are you not ? Would you like it if the tables were turned ?


EDIT: I SUCK AT CODE.

Last edited by mafia996630 (2009-02-04 13:40:22)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6924|London, England
I don't see why the US are not allowing us to release the details...? And then threatening to cut off all intelligence links, seems abit harsh and OTT.....possibly a journo might've been given a good artistic license for that bit. Although if it's true that's quite messed up. Considering how close the countries are, Infact it's way too close for something that drastic. I don't really believe it tbh.

Parker wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Hatred for the US ? not at all. Don't get me wrong, i do hate bush.
you hate america too...its cool man, no need to defend ignorance.

mafia996630 wrote:

And it has everything to do with US citizens, if they actually stood up for what they are suppose to stand for, their governments would not go around black mailing so called "friends" .
OH, so its my (and my fellow country mens) fault that this happened?



no, you dont hate america at all...i can tell
I think he meant ashamed as in, they should be ashamed of what their government is doing to such a close ally over something which shouldn't be a big deal (why would it?) - Again, one more thing which makes me not believe this story so much. Needs more details

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-02-04 13:50:45)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6924|London, England
Actually we'd probably be better off with our own intelligence services, or perhaps we wouldn't even have a fucking terrorist threat (Islamic terrorist threat*) at all if ties to the US weren't so close, I guess nobody thought of that one.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|6005|College Park, MD
i thought everyone knew torture was used there >_>
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/36793/marylandsig.jpg
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7071

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

i thought everyone knew torture was used there >_>
Maybe we can get some convictions as well.
Switch
Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6767|Tyne & Wear, England

mafia996630 wrote:

Parker wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

What a underhanded cunt move. US citizens should be ashamed.
what do US citizens have to do with this?


i mean, beyond your apparent hatred for anything that has to do with the US, of course.
Hatred for the US ? not at all. Don't get me wrong, i do hate bush.

And it has everything to do with US citizens, if they actually stood up for what they are suppose to stand for, their governments would not go around black mailing so called "friends" .
It has sod all to do with US citizens.  If you really believe that it does, and that they should stand against such acts ... did they not just elect a new President?

As for the op, if it is entirely true, it seems like a bit of a cunts trick.  Even so, I'm guessing it was more to do with the old administration
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6456|what

It just gets worse and worse.

The US govt. is trying to block evidence, in a British court. Wow.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
andy12
Banned
+52|6960

mafia996630 wrote:

Parker wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Hatred for the US ? not at all. Don't get me wrong, i do hate bush.
you hate america too...its cool man, no need to defend ignorance.

mafia996630 wrote:

And it has everything to do with US citizens, if they actually stood up for what they are suppose to stand for, their governments would not go around black mailing so called "friends" .
OH, so its my (and my fellow country mens) fault that this happened?



no, you dont hate america at all...i can tell
Prove i hate the US parker ?  i dare ya.

Also when did i say its the citizens fault ? Like I said before, US citizens should be ashamed, to put it in lamer terms, they should ashamed of their government.


fyi, if i did hate the US, you'll be the first one to know!
Oh the old "Prove it" retort, mmm, I doubt anyone is gonna look through all your posts to find proof which you will then dismiss as "a joke", "sarcasm" or the other old gems. It's pretty clear you hate the US and Israel, especially since you went with that Bush crap people go with. "I hate bush not the people". Yeah Bush isn't in power anymore...
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina
On the one hand, yeah...  this is shameful.

On the other hand, I'm sure this isn't the only shameful thing our government has done involving the agreements we make with other countries involving things like intelligence gathering.

I'm sure there are plenty of things that we do for the U.K. to keep our friendship at least somewhat functional.

I suppose now that this has come to light, however, it would be best if Obama allowed the release of evidence without any threats.  Once a big stink like this goes public, there's really no point in fighting it.  Let the truth be known to all.
mafia996630
© 2009 Jeff Minard
+319|7067|d

andy12 wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Parker wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Hatred for the US ? not at all. Don't get me wrong, i do hate bush.
you hate america too...its cool man, no need to defend ignorance.


OH, so its my (and my fellow country mens) fault that this happened?



no, you dont hate america at all...i can tell
Prove i hate the US parker ?  i dare ya.

Also when did i say its the citizens fault ? Like I said before, US citizens should be ashamed, to put it in lamer terms, they should ashamed of their government.


fyi, if i did hate the US, you'll be the first one to know!
Oh the old "Prove it" retort, mmm, I doubt anyone is gonna look through all your posts to find proof which you will then dismiss as "a joke", "sarcasm" or the other old gems. It's pretty clear you hate the US and Israel, especially since you went with that Bush crap people go with. "I hate bush not the people". Yeah Bush isn't in power anymore...
If you make a claim and then are too lazy/unwilling to back it up with evidence, your claim is invalid. It would be advisory for you to stfu and stop saying shit that ant true like someone else earlier.

Also i know bush is not in power anymore but i still hate the wank. And read article properly next time;

Miliband's lawyers said the threat had existed for some time and was still in place under President Barack Obama's administration.
JahManRed
wank
+646|6931|IRELAND

Blackmail. Force the issue and "the US will re-evaluate how it shares intelligence on terrorists with the UK"
In other words, take part in the cover up or we won't tell you if ppl are going to attack you.
Seams the Euros are going to have something to bitch about Obama after all.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6954|USA

mafia996630 wrote:

Parker wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

What a underhanded cunt move. US citizens should be ashamed.
what do US citizens have to do with this?


i mean, beyond your apparent hatred for anything that has to do with the US, of course.
Hatred for the US ? not at all. Don't get me wrong, i do hate bush.

And it has everything to do with US citizens, if they actually stood up for what they are suppose to stand for, their governments would not go around black mailing so called "friends" .
Well with "friends" like those that want to air another "friends" dirty laundry for no other reason than to trash your "friend", you don't need enemies.
PureFodder
Member
+225|6589

lowing wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Parker wrote:


what do US citizens have to do with this?


i mean, beyond your apparent hatred for anything that has to do with the US, of course.
Hatred for the US ? not at all. Don't get me wrong, i do hate bush.

And it has everything to do with US citizens, if they actually stood up for what they are suppose to stand for, their governments would not go around black mailing so called "friends" .
Well with "friends" like those that want to air another "friends" dirty laundry for no other reason than to trash your "friend", you don't need enemies.
All dirty laundry should be aired. Trying to put friends back on the right path is what friends are for.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6954|USA

PureFodder wrote:

lowing wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:


Hatred for the US ? not at all. Don't get me wrong, i do hate bush.

And it has everything to do with US citizens, if they actually stood up for what they are suppose to stand for, their governments would not go around black mailing so called "friends" .
Well with "friends" like those that want to air another "friends" dirty laundry for no other reason than to trash your "friend", you don't need enemies.
All dirty laundry should be aired. Trying to put friends back on the right path is what friends are for.
Yeah right. Does the phrase those who live in glass houses...............ring a bell?
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6409|eXtreme to the maX

Lowing wrote:

Well with "friends" like those that want to air another "friends" dirty laundry for no other reason than to trash your "friend", you don't need enemies.
What are you on about?
Countries have freedom of information acts, if the US has something to hide it shouldn't have done it in the first place.
Threatening to stop sensible cooperation because you're embarrassed about having done something illegal is reprehensible.

In future I very much doubt any country will hand over anyone to the US, so you've lost a pile of potential intel there.
Fuck Israel

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