Fixed.Spark wrote:
Or you could have not voted at all.
well said. +1mikkel wrote:
Good god, what is the purpose of these threads? To show that some of the liberals on this forum are guilty of double standards? Doesn't the absence of threads like these authored by conservatives during the Bush administration prove that precisely the same is applicable to them?
You guys are having fist fights with hand grenades. Whatever you're trying to prove, you inadvertently prove yourselves guilty of the same.
We all know there are hypocrites on both sides of the political spectrum. We don't need dozens of threads pointing this out by going "Nyah nyah!"
Contrary.destruktion_6143 wrote:
i agree with some con ideas and some libs...what does that make me?
Confused. Eager to please. Wishy washy. Can I keep going?destruktion_6143 wrote:
i agree with some con ideas and some libs...what does that make me?
Who's subscribing to a label? I don't subscribe to being a conservative (Note: I didn't say Republican--different breed). I have ideals that I firmly believe in and they happen to be generally labeled as conservative ideals. I could list all my stances and take up a few pages, or I could generalize it for you and tell you I am a far right conservative. You can probably figure out where I stand on a lot of issues now couldn't you.destruktion_6143 wrote:
why subscribe to a label?
Wow ironic because your jumping all over Obama for it and im guessing you didnt for bush...deeznutz1245 wrote:
No, it's just how liberals rationalize when the tables have turned. You people would jump all over Bush for this shit but now that it is one of your own. Whoa.TheAussieReaper wrote:
Let's be honest, tax cheats are more likeable.Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
Ill take tax cheats over ex-oil ceo's with a secret agenda.
notice i said ex-ceo... as in a former CEO who then took a public office...lowing wrote:
If you think it is a secret that an oil company's agenda is making money, I am sorry for your naivety. Also, an oil company CEO is not a public official who was entrusted to keep our best interests in mind, not his. Especially after they make the laws the rest of us are supposed to live by.Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
Ill take tax cheats over ex-oil ceo's with a secret agenda.
/beginingD&STflamewar13005
lol real mature man. i knew someone was going to say something like that. "well if u arent right wing or left wing youre on the fence, a panzy, appeaser blah blah blah.... (btw dont come bback saying "i never called u those things" bc you were on that track)LividBovine wrote:
Confused. Eager to please. Wishy washy. Can I keep going?destruktion_6143 wrote:
i agree with some con ideas and some libs...what does that make me?
Besides, it's fun to watch all you "moderates" get all flustered when someone tries to pigeon hole you.
I have been found out. I am a cowardly nobody using the great equalizer that is the Internet. Nice pigeon hole.destruktion_6143 wrote:
lol real mature man. i knew someone was going to say something like that. "well if u arent right wing or left wing youre on the fence, a panzy, appeaser blah blah blah.... (btw dont come bback saying "i never called u those things" bc you were on that track)LividBovine wrote:
Confused. Eager to please. Wishy washy. Can I keep going?destruktion_6143 wrote:
i agree with some con ideas and some libs...what does that make me?
Besides, it's fun to watch all you "moderates" get all flustered when someone tries to pigeon hole you.
the only way i believe democracy will move forward is if everyone dropped their hardcore, extreme left/right ideals and took the best aspects of both liberal and conservative. im glad im not far left or right.
i dont get off by rustling other peoples feathers, mainly bc i dont have the mindset of a 15yr old male. unlike you, who states you enjoy doing so, for reasons i can only speculate. (too timid IRL to tell ppl how u feel, strengthened by the fact you are anonymous, needing to blow off steam)
i said i could only assume, i never labeled u, or myself. no i have not scoured thru bf2s to read you posts. i have nothing against anyone here ...well except u, bc the highlighted section shows u claiming to be an extremist. and thats the first step to becoming a terrorist.LividBovine wrote:
I have been found out. I am a cowardly nobody using the great equalizer that is the Internet. Nice pigeon hole.destruktion_6143 wrote:
lol real mature man. i knew someone was going to say something like that. "well if u arent right wing or left wing youre on the fence, a panzy, appeaser blah blah blah.... (btw dont come bback saying "i never called u those things" bc you were on that track)LividBovine wrote:
Confused. Eager to please. Wishy washy. Can I keep going?
Besides, it's fun to watch all you "moderates" get all flustered when someone tries to pigeon hole you.
the only way i believe democracy will move forward is if everyone dropped their hardcore, extreme left/right ideals and took the best aspects of both liberal and conservative. im glad im not far left or right.
i dont get off by rustling other peoples feathers, mainly bc i dont have the mindset of a 15yr old male. unlike you, who states you enjoy doing so, for reasons i can only speculate. (too timid IRL to tell ppl how u feel, strengthened by the fact you are anonymous, needing to blow off steam)
You seem to care a bit about labeling then proceed to label me in many ways based on one sarcastic post.
You are making the assumption that your point of view is the appropriate stance. Fine, take that stance. I really don't care. You call us extremist wrong and then label yourself as the sensible one.
Have you read through my post's? Do you know my posting style in general? No?
You guessed wrong. I criticized as well as defended him, just as I will do with this president. Why do you post everything twice? Why do you post everything twice?Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
Wow ironic because your jumping all over Obama for it and im guessing you didnt for bush...deeznutz1245 wrote:
No, it's just how liberals rationalize when the tables have turned. You people would jump all over Bush for this shit but now that it is one of your own. Whoa.TheAussieReaper wrote:
Let's be honest, tax cheats are more likeable.
Well, if you're going to go and bash Obama for being a socialist and then vote for one under your definition of one, yeah, you just shouldn't vote. It just makes you a hypocrite, but we already knew lowing was anyway now didn't we?LividBovine wrote:
Fixed.Spark wrote:
Or you could have not voted at all.
Why wouldn't we want to vote? Isn't there always one that will line-up more with your own point of view? Not voting is about the dumbest thing you can do.
Well, I never really posted who I voted for, this is all your assumption. I am not blind by party lines. I am an individual. It just so happens liberals represent more of what I disagree with.Poseidon wrote:
Well, if you're going to go and bash Obama for being a socialist and then vote for one under your definition of one, yeah, you just shouldn't vote. It just makes you a hypocrite, but we already knew lowing was anyway now didn't we?LividBovine wrote:
Fixed.Spark wrote:
Or you could have not voted at all.
Why wouldn't we want to vote? Isn't there always one that will line-up more with your own point of view? Not voting is about the dumbest thing you can do.
There's always a third party like Nader or Bob Barr. But no, lowing's so blinded by party ties and his irrational hatred of liberals that he actually voted for a "socialist". It's just so...ironic.
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They weren't killing each other until about 50 years ago. Post-WWII fucked up there big time but up til then that was a fairly stable region.lowing wrote:
Well, I never really posted who I voted for, this is all your assumption. I am not blind by party lines. I am an individual. It just so happens liberals represent more of what I disagree with.Poseidon wrote:
Well, if you're going to go and bash Obama for being a socialist and then vote for one under your definition of one, yeah, you just shouldn't vote. It just makes you a hypocrite, but we already knew lowing was anyway now didn't we?LividBovine wrote:
Fixed.
Why wouldn't we want to vote? Isn't there always one that will line-up more with your own point of view? Not voting is about the dumbest thing you can do.
There's always a third party like Nader or Bob Barr. But no, lowing's so blinded by party ties and his irrational hatred of liberals that he actually voted for a "socialist". It's just so...ironic.
By the way, my hatred of liberals is not irrational. Jimmy Carter weakened our country with his liberal bullshit. He thought he had all the answers to solve the problems in the ME. HE just never figured out, the ME does not want their problems solved. If they can't kill each other, they won't have anything to do. He opened the flood gates t oillegal immigration, now look what we have in Miami for example. Will the last American out of Miami please bring the flag? Nobama will be even worse.
i don't post everything twice... u on crack?deeznutz1245 wrote:
You guessed wrong. I criticized as well as defended him, just as I will do with this president. Why do you post everything twice? Why do you post everything twice?Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
Wow ironic because your jumping all over Obama for it and im guessing you didnt for bush...deeznutz1245 wrote:
No, it's just how liberals rationalize when the tables have turned. You people would jump all over Bush for this shit but now that it is one of your own. Whoa.
Perhaps if you stopped feeling so persecuted, and being so vindictive, you'd see that I'm not dismissing anything. I'm just tired of the way that you post criticism not for the criticism itself, but to say "Nyah-nyah" at all the people who disagree with you. Especially over something that you've proven yourself guilty of as well.lowing wrote:
Not really sure how you can dismiss Obama's tax cheating, lobbyist, cabinet, as irrelevent, epecially when Obama himself promised no such people would appear in his administration. But oh well, I guess I am just being hateful and intolerant.mikkel wrote:
No, you got it wrong. It's "lowing, for the love of god, stop making these ridiculous threads. You don't need a dozen threads to make the forum aware of your opinion on the matter."lowing wrote:
translation........Now that Obama is president it is not right to point out presidential faults. SO stop it.
I don't have the faintest of interest in what your opinion is. Just that you don't spam the forum with your vindictive mentality. At least the people you criticise usually point out topics with valid criticism, regardless of whether or not they're veiled attacks. You, on the other hand, seem to do it solely to point your finger at the people you disagree with.
Not sure where I have posted "Nyah Nyah" at all. Not really my posting style. If you say I am pointing out the flaws in your Messiah, I am. I post critism where critism is due, and Nobama has it coming. and so do all the people in America that voted for a rock star over instead of voting for a president.mikkel wrote:
Perhaps if you stopped feeling so persecuted, and being so vindictive, you'd see that I'm not dismissing anything. I'm just tired of the way that you post criticism not for the criticism itself, but to say "Nyah-nyah" at all the people who disagree with you. Especially over something that you've proven yourself guilty of as well.lowing wrote:
Not really sure how you can dismiss Obama's tax cheating, lobbyist, cabinet, as irrelevent, epecially when Obama himself promised no such people would appear in his administration. But oh well, I guess I am just being hateful and intolerant.mikkel wrote:
No, you got it wrong. It's "lowing, for the love of god, stop making these ridiculous threads. You don't need a dozen threads to make the forum aware of your opinion on the matter."
I don't have the faintest of interest in what your opinion is. Just that you don't spam the forum with your vindictive mentality. At least the people you criticise usually point out topics with valid criticism, regardless of whether or not they're veiled attacks. You, on the other hand, seem to do it solely to point your finger at the people you disagree with.
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Good info, too bad it does not address the point of the whole post.Spark wrote:
They weren't killing each other until about 50 years ago. Post-WWII fucked up there big time but up til then that was a fairly stable region.lowing wrote:
Well, I never really posted who I voted for, this is all your assumption. I am not blind by party lines. I am an individual. It just so happens liberals represent more of what I disagree with.Poseidon wrote:
Well, if you're going to go and bash Obama for being a socialist and then vote for one under your definition of one, yeah, you just shouldn't vote. It just makes you a hypocrite, but we already knew lowing was anyway now didn't we?
There's always a third party like Nader or Bob Barr. But no, lowing's so blinded by party ties and his irrational hatred of liberals that he actually voted for a "socialist". It's just so...ironic.
By the way, my hatred of liberals is not irrational. Jimmy Carter weakened our country with his liberal bullshit. He thought he had all the answers to solve the problems in the ME. HE just never figured out, the ME does not want their problems solved. If they can't kill each other, they won't have anything to do. He opened the flood gates t oillegal immigration, now look what we have in Miami for example. Will the last American out of Miami please bring the flag? Nobama will be even worse.
Hey, I appreciate dissent too, but I usually throw some dissent at dissenters to keep things interesting.Kmarion wrote:
We should have people pointing out BS. I don't see why you guys are jumping on lowings case. If he truly thinks our leaders are screwing up I thank him for voicing his opinion. We live in a free and open society.. dissent is allowed here. FFS Obama himself just admitted he screwed up.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_ … d_nomineesBarack Obama on Tuesday abruptly abandoned his nomination fight for Tom Daschle and a second major appointee who failed to pay all their taxes, fearing a lingering ethics dispute would undercut his claims to moral high ground and cripple his presidency in just its second week. "I screwed up," Obama declared.
"It's important for this administration to send a message that there aren't two sets of rules — you know, one for prominent people and one for ordinary folks who have to pay their taxes," Obama said near the end of a day of jarring developments, little more than 24 hours after he had said he was "absolutely" committed to Daschle's confirmation.
"I'm frustrated with myself, with our team. ... I'm here on television saying I screwed up," Obama said on NBC's "Nightly News with Brian Williams." He repeated virtually the same words in interviews with other TV anchors.
We've been through the whole 'The ME is a violent shithole, we might as well bomb them or they'll bomb each other anyway' routine.Lowing wrote:
HE just never figured out, the ME does not want their problems solved. If they can't kill each other, they won't have anything to do.
Plenty of other areas affected by imperialism turned out far better than the Middle East or Africa. I mean, look at how much China got dicked over by the British, but they managed to evolve into an economic powerhouse.Dilbert_X wrote:
We've been through the whole 'The ME is a violent shithole, we might as well bomb them or they'll bomb each other anyway' routine.Lowing wrote:
HE just never figured out, the ME does not want their problems solved. If they can't kill each other, they won't have anything to do.
Its simply not true. Western imperialism and dumping Israel amongst them have screwed the whole region.
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