What is the percentage of total population that is in jail? Why do you misrepresent data? Are you purposely lying?jonnykill wrote:
Oh yeah I almost forgot . We currently have 2.5 million people behind bars , the most in the world per country .
Poll
Do you hate or like Bush ???
| hate | 50% | 50% - 122 | ||||
| like | 28% | 28% - 69 | ||||
| Dont Give A Fuck | 16% | 16% - 40 | ||||
| Dont Know | 4% | 4% - 12 | ||||
| Total: 243 | ||||||
I live here in the U.S. and I can't figure it out either. I'm not some left wing pacifist liberal, but damn I can think on my own and see he's a fucken idiot, liar, fucken corporate do-boy......... I cant' even end with that subject. It is just unbelievable that so many people in this country are that fucken blind. Republicans go on about being fiscally conservative, how the fuck is a multi trillion $ deficit conservative. He cut's taxes for the big corporations, the few that have U.S. charters. Cuts social programs health care, college tuition, welfare for the ones that need it, but corporate welfare is on the rise. Not all Americans are that blind hopefully the smoking gun will appear before he's done and he and all of his chronis are put away for fucking up a good country.Skinnister wrote:
Im wondering what people's thoughts are on him because I have seen so many movie clips on all the stupid things he does and wonder to myself WHY is he still in office and why the Americans, if they do, vote for him
Around 300 mil ppl in america that means 0.8% of the country is in jail. sure bush is a dumbass, but he is better than kerry who is a liar (3 purple hearts my ass!) at least bush did respond to the 911 attacks. But his main error on the Iraq invasion (no its not a war since the USA did not declare war on Iraq) he shoould of said "Iraq has suspicion of WMD's and if they do have them, they will is them" instead of "Iraq has WMD's and we should stop them".wannabe_tank_whore wrote:
What is the percentage of total population that is in jail? Why do you misrepresent data? Are you purposely lying?jonnykill wrote:
Oh yeah I almost forgot . We currently have 2.5 million people behind bars , the most in the world per country .
You're retarded step out of your trailer sometime.Horseman 77 wrote:
The U.S. Media is heavy left and Liberal.
If you listened to them before the Election they predicted Bush would get 10% of the Vote,
It was an effort to sway the Election.
Its illegal an immoral to do this.
Yet he won.. What does that tell you?
Liberal People, are usually people who do not contribute to society as a whole .
They are never Cops, Fireman, Doctors, Nurses, Engineers, Soldiers, Builders ETC.
They are Never Businesses Owners, They are rarely self made.
If they are a successes its usually something they Backed into by luck. or they sucked a few dix
TV, Hollywood and the Music industry Celeb's are Famous for " this kind " of Success story.
There are few exceptions.
And so it usually leaves them racked with guilt. ( when they have little Ribbon wearing fund rasiers you always here the word " guilt " thrown around )
ted danson, mary tylor moore, modona, tim robbins, mat damon etc. use your own examples
Any one of these people ( talanted they may be " could be replaced by thousands and they know it. It leaves them twisted and empty.
Common Liberals are usually found in roles like
" New York City Human Recourses " which resembles a Junior High School cafeteria or a Zoo with hundreds of people Just hanging out and chatting at Taxpayer expense. They even have a basketball hoop ( IN THE OFFICE )
Another is
" New York City Cultural Affairs " . This nifty little group takes our tax dollars to buy Shitty art that no one would otherwise look at ( like a picture Smeared with dung or a Jar filled with urine. I Kid You NOT! ) and hang it in a museum at Tax payer expense, In other words They think you are to dumb to pick your own art so they do it for you. With your money.
In institutions like that success isn't necessary and failure is acceptable. These types of institutions are unneeded and Taxpayer funded and the Exclusive domain of the Liberals.
Otherwise as you have probably noted by now They are naive kids who have yet to leave the Nest, pay bills and feed themselves, They can afford to be unrealistic in their decisions, Their decisions don't matter yet and don't effect anyone including and especially themselves. This all changes real quick when They pay Quarterly taxes or make over $100k OR their car is stolen, house robbed, loved one is hurt READ Any brush with a criminal. Then they want blood. I have witnessed it a thousand times! hear me GOD !
Until then, They make their opinions based on what the likes of actors like george cloony say.
george cloony who is famous for portraying soldiers and American heroes.
Ironically REAL American heroes and Soldiers, Airman, Sailors and Marines ETC. are always 99.99& Ultra Conservative Republican
Most Americans, Especially the ones that count ( the people who feed the world for instance ) have to be realistic can not afford failure and are almost 100% hard core conservative.
The ones who produce art, music and " this years ladies shoes " Well that's another story.
Bush is fine, clinton cost us with his inability to act decisively when the us was attacked on several occasions. This only emboldened our enemy's.
Bush is fighting a war that clinton was afraid too. clinton left us with a pile of shit and we are still digging.
Oh I saw it on a CIA statistics website thingy . Most of the people in jail , about 48% are drug offenses alone .wannabe_tank_whore wrote:
What is the percentage of total population that is in jail? Why do you misrepresent data? Are you purposely lying?jonnykill wrote:
Oh yeah I almost forgot . We currently have 2.5 million people behind bars , the most in the world per country .
This is what I mean . This is Bush after 4 years of practice . Just pathetic . I almost feel sorry for the poor shmuck . And Horsey 77 likes this guy - says " He's fine " lol . Oh brother !
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johnnykill... plz edit ur posts do not multipost or u may result in ban. read forum rules
George Bush just doesn't want to follow the Constitution...
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgaz … 177032.htm
He signed a bill into a law that was only passed by the Senate. There was a mishap when translating the bill over to the House, so the House narrowly voted on a completely different bill. Rather than sending the bill to a committee to be universally revised and then voted on by both the House and Senate (As is Constitutionally and democratically required), Bush just decided to do away with all of that and say that the Senate's bill was right, and signed it into law. Another reason why we hate Bush...
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgaz … 177032.htm
He signed a bill into a law that was only passed by the Senate. There was a mishap when translating the bill over to the House, so the House narrowly voted on a completely different bill. Rather than sending the bill to a committee to be universally revised and then voted on by both the House and Senate (As is Constitutionally and democratically required), Bush just decided to do away with all of that and say that the Senate's bill was right, and signed it into law. Another reason why we hate Bush...
LMAO.......you can't swing a dead cat in these forums without finding Marconius bashing the shit outta Bush.Marconius wrote:
George Bush just doesn't want to follow the Constitution...
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgaz … 177032.htm
He signed a bill into a law that was only passed by the Senate. There was a mishap when translating the bill over to the House, so the House narrowly voted on a completely different bill. Rather than sending the bill to a committee to be universally revised and then voted on by both the House and Senate (As is Constitutionally and democratically required), Bush just decided to do away with all of that and say that the Senate's bill was right, and signed it into law. Another reason why we hate Bush...
Face it Marconius you are hell bent to discredit Bush at every turn........You really are not into caring about anything positive the man has done or any truth..... that fact alone makes your posts without any merit at all.......
your a moron, the president does not write legistlations, introduce legistlation, or any of that. Learn how our government works you POS. Tell me, how is it Bush makes all these decisions in the congress and senate when he is a member of neither???? Oh, btw..... I am still waiting to be drafted you retard.Marconius wrote:
George Bush just doesn't want to follow the Constitution...
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgaz … 177032.htm
He signed a bill into a law that was only passed by the Senate. There was a mishap when translating the bill over to the House, so the House narrowly voted on a completely different bill. Rather than sending the bill to a committee to be universally revised and then voted on by both the House and Senate (As is Constitutionally and democratically required), Bush just decided to do away with all of that and say that the Senate's bill was right, and signed it into law. Another reason why we hate Bush...
I hope your one of the gay or proabortion liberals so that I don't have to worry about you having offspring.
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Wow...ok, lowing and Major_Spittle...you both must have failed your Government classes, or you just have to have your knee-jerk anti-liberal reactions to something that was seriously unconstitutional. You both must feel that the Constitution is just "a goddamned piece of paper!" - Pres. Bush
For a BILL to become a LAW, it must be passed by both the HOUSE and SENATE before being signed by the PRESIDENT. If you read my fucking story, you would have noticed that the BILL that was voted on and passed in the SENATE was not worded the same way as what was passed in the HOUSE, therefore it was not the same BILL. Rather than fixing the bill to make sure the HOUSE was properly informed of what they were voting on moving through TRUE DEMOCRATIC AND CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS, President Bush SIGNED it and declared the Senate's version of the Bill to be the correct one.
In toto, he signed a Bill that was Only passed by the Senate and not properly legislated on by the House.
For a BILL to become a LAW, it must be passed by both the HOUSE and SENATE before being signed by the PRESIDENT. If you read my fucking story, you would have noticed that the BILL that was voted on and passed in the SENATE was not worded the same way as what was passed in the HOUSE, therefore it was not the same BILL. Rather than fixing the bill to make sure the HOUSE was properly informed of what they were voting on moving through TRUE DEMOCRATIC AND CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS, President Bush SIGNED it and declared the Senate's version of the Bill to be the correct one.
In toto, he signed a Bill that was Only passed by the Senate and not properly legislated on by the House.
Sounds like Marconius has just watch School House Rock!!......Those Saturday morning cartoons are great aren't they??Marconius wrote:
Wow...ok, lowing and Major_Spittle...you both must have failed your Government classes, or you just have to have your knee-jerk anti-liberal reactions to something that was seriously unconstitutional. You both must feel that the Constitution is just "a goddamned piece of paper!" - Pres. Bush
For a BILL to become a LAW, it must be passed by both the HOUSE and SENATE before being signed by the PRESIDENT. If you read my fucking story, you would have noticed that the BILL that was voted on and passed in the SENATE was not worded the same way as what was passed in the HOUSE, therefore it was not the same BILL. Rather than fixing the bill to make sure the HOUSE was properly informed of what they were voting on moving through TRUE DEMOCRATIC AND CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS, President Bush SIGNED it and declared the Senate's version of the Bill to be the correct one.
In toto, he signed a Bill that was Only passed by the Senate and not properly legislated on by the House.
Besides I said nothing about the law the pres. signed. My post was directed straight at you.
Last edited by lowing (2006-03-28 12:01:14)
Are you for or against the right to keep and bear arms?Marconius wrote:
Wow...ok, lowing and Major_Spittle...you both must have failed your Government classes, or you just have to have your knee-jerk anti-liberal reactions to something that was seriously unconstitutional. You both must feel that the Constitution is just "a goddamned piece of paper!" - Pres. Bush
For a BILL to become a LAW, it must be passed by both the HOUSE and SENATE before being signed by the PRESIDENT. If you read my fucking story, you would have noticed that the BILL that was voted on and passed in the SENATE was not worded the same way as what was passed in the HOUSE, therefore it was not the same BILL. Rather than fixing the bill to make sure the HOUSE was properly informed of what they were voting on moving through TRUE DEMOCRATIC AND CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS, President Bush SIGNED it and declared the Senate's version of the Bill to be the correct one.
In toto, he signed a Bill that was Only passed by the Senate and not properly legislated on by the House.
ut ohhhhhhh.........sounds like ya might have him stumblin' on that one......good point, wish I had thought about that but i was too busy bein a smart ass this time lolwannabe_tank_whore wrote:
Are you for or against the right to keep and bear arms?Marconius wrote:
Wow...ok, lowing and Major_Spittle...you both must have failed your Government classes, or you just have to have your knee-jerk anti-liberal reactions to something that was seriously unconstitutional. You both must feel that the Constitution is just "a goddamned piece of paper!" - Pres. Bush
For a BILL to become a LAW, it must be passed by both the HOUSE and SENATE before being signed by the PRESIDENT. If you read my fucking story, you would have noticed that the BILL that was voted on and passed in the SENATE was not worded the same way as what was passed in the HOUSE, therefore it was not the same BILL. Rather than fixing the bill to make sure the HOUSE was properly informed of what they were voting on moving through TRUE DEMOCRATIC AND CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS, President Bush SIGNED it and declared the Senate's version of the Bill to be the correct one.
In toto, he signed a Bill that was Only passed by the Senate and not properly legislated on by the House.
Last edited by lowing (2006-03-28 12:27:30)
how about we start enforcing the imagration laws?
But you don't seem to be for the president enforcing the laws/resolutions that stopped the first gulf war..hmmmmmmmmmm.......I bet it would be all good if Gore or Kerry had stepped up to the plate.
But you don't seem to be for the president enforcing the laws/resolutions that stopped the first gulf war..hmmmmmmmmmm.......I bet it would be all good if Gore or Kerry had stepped up to the plate.
Last edited by lowing (2006-03-28 12:30:50)
lowing, constantly going against the Constitution in order to forward his own agenda is grounds enough to completely discredit anything Positive he might've done for the country so far, of which there is little.
And tank_whore, though that right was written in a more territorial time, especially when the need for State militias were needed for protection, I'm still for it. If the government takes away our guns, where are we to defend ourselves when and if the government turns into something the majority of Americans decide to take down and rebuild?
What does that have to do with the article I posted? And lowing, start contributing or stay out of the conversation. If you're only going to be a jackass, you're looking at a ban.
And tank_whore, though that right was written in a more territorial time, especially when the need for State militias were needed for protection, I'm still for it. If the government takes away our guns, where are we to defend ourselves when and if the government turns into something the majority of Americans decide to take down and rebuild?
What does that have to do with the article I posted? And lowing, start contributing or stay out of the conversation. If you're only going to be a jackass, you're looking at a ban.
Marconius this is your site and you are free to ban/censor me any time you wish. If you are looking for me to support your anti-american/bush rhetoric you need to look elsewhere. The fact is..........like I said before..........you do not care about truth or facts........you only care about the tidbits of half truths that support your point of view....you truely are not open minded enough to read or hear ALL the facts of an issue.......Which is why I suppose, you have abandoned more than 1 discussion you and I have been engaged in when I pose a tough question on you or back you into a corner with your own bullshit......Marconius wrote:
lowing, constantly going against the Constitution in order to forward his own agenda is grounds enough to completely discredit anything Positive he might've done for the country so far, of which there is little.
And tank_whore, though that right was written in a more territorial time, especially when the need for State militias were needed for protection, I'm still for it. If the government takes away our guns, where are we to defend ourselves when and if the government turns into something the majority of Americans decide to take down and rebuild?
What does that have to do with the article I posted? And lowing, start contributing or stay out of the conversation. If you're only going to be a jackass, you're looking at a ban.
Also.........the majority of America elected Bush twice......so get over itMarconius wrote:
lowing, constantly going against the Constitution in order to forward his own agenda is grounds enough to completely discredit anything Positive he might've done for the country so far, of which there is little.
And tank_whore, though that right was written in a more territorial time, especially when the need for State militias were needed for protection, I'm still for it. If the government takes away our guns, where are we to defend ourselves when and if the government turns into something the majority of Americans decide to take down and rebuild?
What does that have to do with the article I posted? And lowing, start contributing or stay out of the conversation. If you're only going to be a jackass, you're looking at a ban.
Lowing, you've only sided with people that I've debated with and have never offered any differing information to the sources I cite to formulate my own ideas. You are more of an "Oh yeah!! What HE said!! Ha, he pwned j00!!" person on the sidelines rather than being a good contributor of debate. You'd rather be brash and be a "smart ass."
Let's try something. Rather than offering up constant personal attacks on my integrity, try coming up with something that disproves the story I've found. I'm just coming up with sources and ideas that back up my side in this particular topic. Find my "half-truths" on this one.
Let's try something. Rather than offering up constant personal attacks on my integrity, try coming up with something that disproves the story I've found. I'm just coming up with sources and ideas that back up my side in this particular topic. Find my "half-truths" on this one.
I suggest you go back and re-read all of the discussions we have engaged in.......if someone said something to you that I agreed with I will state it, no sense trying to steal someone elses point......and I defy you to repost anywhere on this forum where I have said "Oh yeah!! What HE said!! Ha, he pwned j00!!" since you seem to have quoted me......If you can not............I will file it with all of your other statements that you have posted on this forum and have tried to pass them off as "fact"...................in the round file. If you want to call my challanging you a personal attack then maybe you should refrain from reading youe own forums. I don't wanna hurt your feelings.Marconius wrote:
Lowing, you've only sided with people that I've debated with and have never offered any differing information to the sources I cite to formulate my own ideas. You are more of an "Oh yeah!! What HE said!! Ha, he pwned j00!!" person on the sidelines rather than being a good contributor of debate. You'd rather be brash and be a "smart ass."
Let's try something. Rather than offering up constant personal attacks on my integrity, try coming up with something that disproves the story I've found. I'm just coming up with sources and ideas that back up my side in this particular topic. Find my "half-truths" on this one.
My position with ALL of your post has been simple..........you can find anything you want on the internet to support what you want to believe......it doesn't make it true. And you are not interested in reading or learning the whole truth about anything if the whole truth doesn't support your predetermained view point.
Instead of coming up with a story you found.IE a story that someone else wrote or thinks........why don't you try and take your own advice?..........For example, stop posting shit about what the CIA did or didn't do, or what Bush thought or didn't think. the sad truth is YOU really have no fucking clue what anyone knows or doesn't know, thinks or doesn't think. All you THINK you know, you pick up from other peoples opinions or articles which are already slanted in their favor anyway. My postition has always been............I don't know anything except 1 thing...Our country has not been attacked since 911 and I am greatful for it........and really THAT is the only thing you REALLY know about Bush or his administration as well. Everything else you post is someone elses opinion.
oh and I have no fucking idea what the hell "pwned j00!!" means anyway...........If you do.............wellllllllllllll............that tells us something doesn't it?
The very NATURE of Debate is to pick a stance and support it with sources in intelligent discussion. If the only thing you know is that sole thing you posted, then you have no business being here. THAT is close-mindedness...hypocrisy in action. You believe one thing and are damned determined to not be proven wrong, and feel it necessary to break out into ire and outrage when someone posts something contrary to your position.lowing wrote:
My position with ALL of your post has been simple..........you can find anything you want on the internet to support what you want to believe......it doesn't make it true. And you are not interested in reading or learning the whole truth about anything if the whole truth doesn't support your predetermained view point.
Instead of coming up with a story you found.IE a story that someone else wrote or thinks........why don't you try and take your own advice?..........For example, stop posting shit about what the CIA did or didn't do, or what Bush thought or didn't think. the sad truth is YOU really have no fucking clue what anyone knows or doesn't know, thinks or doesn't think. All you THINK you know, you pick up from other peoples opinions or articles which are already slanted in their favor anyway. My postition has always been............I don't know anything except 1 thing...Our country has not been attacked since 911 and I am greatful for it........and really THAT is the only thing you REALLY know about Bush or his administration as well. Everything else you post is someone elses opinion.
The very point of this forum is for people with opposing voices and information to debate with each other. If you feel so strongly that I don't know what I'm talking about, that's your business...there is no need to post about it unless you can back it up. If you've ever bothered to read my posts, you should have noticed that I make a statement and back it up with information. If someone can effectively post information that disproves what I've based my opinion around, then I will obviously change my opinion after discussion and debate, eventually arriving at a common conclusion or compromise. If you are so uneducated to not even have the Drive to do that in this forum, please do not participate
I don't have to take anything you say at face value...if your sole aim is to not read any information at all and be blissfully ignorant of anything going on around you, so be it. You represent the anti-intelligence pride of America. The mere fact that I do my part in seeking out universal resources that I and others in this forum can easily and conveniently read so as to form an opinion seems to have been lost on you. The act of actually forming an educated opinion has also been lost on you. Yes, I use opinions of others. Yes, I've used slanted information. I've used a fair share of unbiased information as well. It's really up to you to come to that conclusion...it's your job then to research out a counterpoint to my information, to balance it all out if you see it being obviously slanted or spun.
If that is all you've used to formulate your own opinions on the government of the US, I suggest you go back to school and do a little research. It most certainly tells me something about you, especially that it will be utterly impossible to hold a proper discussion with someone as uneducated as yourself.lowing wrote:
I don't know anything except 1 thing...Our country has not been attacked since 911 and I am greatful for it........and really THAT is the only thing you REALLY know about Bush or his administration as well. Everything else you post is someone elses opinion.
There aren't any trailers in NYC. Just your neighborhood!mofo65 wrote:
Your retraded step out of your trialer sometime.
Someone has been at the paint chips again.
Move over jonnykill, make room on the " short bus " for one more.
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Marconius,Marconius wrote:
The very NATURE of Debate is to pick a stance and support it with sources in intelligent discussion. If the only thing you know is that sole thing you posted, then you have no business being here. THAT is close-mindedness...hypocrisy in action. You believe one thing and are damned determined to not be proven wrong, and feel it necessary to break out into ire and outrage when someone posts something contrary to your position.lowing wrote:
My position with ALL of your post has been simple..........you can find anything you want on the internet to support what you want to believe......it doesn't make it true. And you are not interested in reading or learning the whole truth about anything if the whole truth doesn't support your predetermained view point.
Instead of coming up with a story you found.IE a story that someone else wrote or thinks........why don't you try and take your own advice?..........For example, stop posting shit about what the CIA did or didn't do, or what Bush thought or didn't think. the sad truth is YOU really have no fucking clue what anyone knows or doesn't know, thinks or doesn't think. All you THINK you know, you pick up from other peoples opinions or articles which are already slanted in their favor anyway. My postition has always been............I don't know anything except 1 thing...Our country has not been attacked since 911 and I am greatful for it........and really THAT is the only thing you REALLY know about Bush or his administration as well. Everything else you post is someone elses opinion.
The very point of this forum is for people with opposing voices and information to debate with each other. If you feel so strongly that I don't know what I'm talking about, that's your business...there is no need to post about it unless you can back it up. If you've ever bothered to read my posts, you should have noticed that I make a statement and back it up with information. If someone can effectively post information that disproves what I've based my opinion around, then I will obviously change my opinion after discussion and debate, eventually arriving at a common conclusion or compromise. If you are so uneducated to not even have the Drive to do that in this forum, please do not participate
I don't have to take anything you say at face value...if your sole aim is to not read any information at all and be blissfully ignorant of anything going on around you, so be it. You represent the anti-intelligence pride of America. The mere fact that I do my part in seeking out universal resources that I and others in this forum can easily and conveniently read so as to form an opinion seems to have been lost on you. The act of actually forming an educated opinion has also been lost on you. Yes, I use opinions of others. Yes, I've used slanted information. I've used a fair share of unbiased information as well. It's really up to you to come to that conclusion...it's your job then to research out a counterpoint to my information, to balance it all out if you see it being obviously slanted or spun.If that is all you've used to formulate your own opinions on the government of the US, I suggest you go back to school and do a little research. It most certainly tells me something about you, especially that it will be utterly impossible to hold a proper discussion with someone as uneducated as yourself.lowing wrote:
I don't know anything except 1 thing...Our country has not been attacked since 911 and I am greatful for it........and really THAT is the only thing you REALLY know about Bush or his administration as well. Everything else you post is someone elses opinion.
with all of your ranting you are trying to lay down a "reversal" of what I just accused you of....I swear you must have a pussy.........cuz this is the same shit my wife pulls lol.
The problem with your post are ( if you really read my response to you) is that everything you post as "fact" is nothing more than a slanted version of a half truth that is it........yo do not seek truth at all ( for the 1000th time) . I am not here spouting off anything as fact.....I have an opinion, and I base my opinion on everything I read be it pro bush or anti-bush. You on the other hand are only interested in negative shit others have wrote......you have knoe idea what truth is anymore than I do because we simply aren't "in the know".
All you have to do is stop posting your rhetoric as "fact" and call it what it really is........just another opinion based on someone elses bullshit............
Now............with all of your ranting..........you neglected to answer my challenge.........again ......and I defy you to repost anywhere on this forum where I have said "Oh yeah!! What HE said!! Ha, he pwned j00!!" since you seem to have quoted me
Or maybe that is why you convienantly left it off your re-post........a perfect example of what you pass along as "fact" that is not at all
and no what really matters to me is results........and the result of Bushs efforts are no more attacks to date..........I know you hate that, I know you would like nothing more than to see a bomb explode in a major city so you can sink your fangs into bush yet again.