Poll

Do you hate or like Bush ???

hate50%50% - 122
like28%28% - 69
Dont Give A Fuck16%16% - 40
Dont Know4%4% - 12
Total: 243
lowing
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Horseman 77 wrote:

mofo65 wrote:

Your retraded step out of your trialer sometime.
Some one has been at the paint chips again. Move over lowing, make room on the " short bus " for one more.
Oh know ......please stop ...........I am sensative and my feelings get hurt very easily
UON
Junglist Massive
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lowing wrote:

and no what really matters to me is results........and the result of Bushs efforts are no more attacks to date..........I know you hate that, I know you would like nothing more than to see a bomb explode in a major city so you can sink your fangs into bush yet again.
Are you counting London as a major city, or just major American cities?
lowing
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Is America responsible for England's security measures now as well?........In previous posts you have bitched that you want America out of the picture...So which is it??...........I am refering to America.........If you want to talk about the world we can..........but that would take Bush's responsibility for the war and terrorism out of the picture since you were fighting it long before he was elected.

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lowing
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Also Marconius we can reflect on your admission that  you will only use AL-JEEZERA as your only referance source for news on the middle east???...........and........unlike you..........I CAN pull the post and show it to you as "FACT" big boy......That statement you made proves your bias and disinterest for truth

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Horseman 77
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lowing wrote:

and no what really matters to me is results........and the result of Bushs efforts are no more attacks to date..........I know you hate that, I know you would like nothing more than to see a bomb explode in a major city so you can sink your fangs into bush yet again.
Makes sense, win the War first, Bring the troops home. Then sweat the small stuff.

Liberals want that White House back even if it means selling out Our Troops in battle.
They get so cheerful at any sign of bloodshed or catastrophe, It makes me sick.
Some of these people would have been hung Back in W.W.II.

Ps Careful you don't get censored by

" The Voice of Moderation and Discourse  Secret Police "

Tee hee !
lowing
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Horseman 77 wrote:

lowing wrote:

and no what really matters to me is results........and the result of Bushs efforts are no more attacks to date..........I know you hate that, I know you would like nothing more than to see a bomb explode in a major city so you can sink your fangs into bush yet again.
Makes sense, win the War first, Bring the troops home. Then sweat the small stuff.

Liberals want that White House back even if it means selling out Our Troops in battle.
They get so cheerful at any sign of bloodshed or catastrophe, It makes me sick.
Some of these people would have been hung Back in W.W.II.

Ps Careful you don't get censored by

" The Voice of Moderation and Discourse  Secret Police "

Tee hee !
I know.I already  have been threatened..and your post  unfortunately seems to be very correct. sad isn't it??

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lowing
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mofo65 wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

The U.S. Media is heavy left and Liberal.

If you listened to them before the Election they predicted Bush would get 10% of the Vote,

It was an effort to sway the Election.

Its illegal an immoral to do this.   

Yet he won.. What does that tell you?

Liberal People, are usually people who do not contribute to society as a whole .
They are never Cops, Fireman, Doctors, Nurses, Engineers, Soldiers, Builders ETC.
They are Never Businesses Owners, They are rarely self made.

If they are a successes its usually something they Backed into by luck. or they sucked a few dix
TV, Hollywood and the Music industry Celeb's are Famous for  "  this kind "  of Success story.
There are few exceptions.
And so it usually leaves them racked with guilt. ( when they have little Ribbon wearing fund rasiers you always here the word  " guilt "  thrown around )
ted danson, mary tylor moore,  modona, tim robbins, mat damon etc. use your own examples
Any one of these people ( talanted they may be " could be replaced by thousands and they know it. It leaves them twisted and empty.

Common Liberals are usually found in roles like

" New York City Human Recourses " which resembles a Junior High School cafeteria or a Zoo with hundreds of people Just hanging out and chatting at Taxpayer expense. They even have a basketball hoop ( IN THE OFFICE )

Another is

" New York City Cultural Affairs " . This nifty little group takes our tax dollars to buy Shitty art that no one would otherwise look at ( like a picture Smeared with dung or a Jar filled with urine. I Kid You NOT! ) and hang it in a museum at Tax payer expense, In other words They think you are to dumb to pick your own art so they do it for you. With your money.
In institutions like that success isn't necessary and failure is acceptable. These types of institutions are unneeded and Taxpayer funded and the Exclusive domain of the Liberals.

Otherwise as you have probably noted by now They are naive kids who have yet to leave the Nest, pay bills and feed themselves, They can afford to be unrealistic in their decisions, Their decisions don't matter yet and don't effect anyone including and especially themselves. This all changes real quick when They pay Quarterly taxes or make over $100k OR their car is stolen, house robbed, loved one is hurt READ Any brush with a criminal.   Then they want blood.  I have witnessed it a thousand times! hear me GOD !

Until then, They make their opinions based on what the likes of actors like george cloony say.
george cloony who is famous for portraying soldiers and  American heroes.

Ironically  REAL  American heroes and Soldiers, Airman, Sailors  and Marines ETC. are always 99.99& Ultra Conservative Republican

Most Americans, Especially the ones that count ( the people who feed the world for instance ) have to be realistic can not afford failure and are almost 100% hard core conservative.

The ones who produce art, music and " this years ladies shoes "  Well that's another story.

Bush is fine, clinton cost us with his inability to act decisively when the us was attacked on several occasions. This only emboldened  our enemy's.
Bush is fighting a war that clinton was afraid too. clinton left us with a pile of shit and we are still digging.
You're retarded step out of your trailer sometime.
that is a typical response from a liberal with no counter response.............or an 11 year old

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Horseman 77
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lowing wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

mofo65 wrote:

Your retraded step out of your trialer sometime.
Some one has been at the paint chips again. Move over lowing, make room on the " short bus " for one more.
Oh know ......please stop ...........I am sensative and my feelings get hurt very easily
sorry lowing I meant "Johnny kill " should schooch over ! lol shows you have a sense of humor though.

" now where's my Ritalin " ?
lowing
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Horseman 77 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:


Some one has been at the paint chips again. Move over lowing, make room on the " short bus " for one more.
Oh know ......please stop ...........I am sensative and my feelings get hurt very easily
sorry lowing I meant "Johnny kill " should schooch over ! lol shows you have a sense of humor though.

" now where's my Ritalin " ?
thats ok, maybe I need to be on the short bus anyway for my grammar...........Oh know!! instead of Oh no!!

lol
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
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lowing wrote:

and no what really matters to me is results........and the result of Bushs efforts are no more attacks to date..........I know you hate that, I know you would like nothing more than to see a bomb explode in a major city so you can sink your fangs into bush yet again.
Results huh ? Look at the results in Iraq these days . See any improvements ? I see a civil war about to happen . Granted the news media gravitates toward every single bomb that explodes the news coming out of Iraq is bad , real bad . Probably going to get worse . If you have a problem with me not liking my President fine but don't throw words down my throat and say I or anybody here would enjoy seeing America get hit by another terrorist attack . I love this country just as much as you do . I'm just not pleased with the idiot running the show . Right now he is just a percentage away from having the lowest approval rating in US history . Also the poll right in this thread is telling as well . Looks like you guys have the smaller bus
lowing
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jonnykill wrote:

lowing wrote:

and no what really matters to me is results........and the result of Bushs efforts are no more attacks to date..........I know you hate that, I know you would like nothing more than to see a bomb explode in a major city so you can sink your fangs into bush yet again.
Results huh ? Look at the results in Iraq these days . See any improvements ? I see a civil war about to happen . Granted the news media gravitates toward every single bomb that explodes the news coming out of Iraq is bad , real bad . Probably going to get worse . If you have a problem with me not liking my President fine but don't throw words down my throat and say I or anybody here would enjoy seeing America get hit by another terrorist attack . I love this country just as much as you do . I'm just not pleased with the idiot running the show . Right now he is just a percentage away from having the lowest approval rating in US history . Also the poll right in this thread is telling as well . Looks like you guys have the smaller bus
ya know what why don't you leave the evaluations of Iraq to those in the "know".....and that ain't you or me......or Marconius obviously........the reports coming from the soldiers that are there or have been there (you know, the ones without a personal agenda) paint a very different picture of Iraq. I will trust their un-biased reports over the shit you or Marconius digs up from Al-Jeezera and try and pass along as fact.

there is a ton of things Bush could do better, but on this issue alone I support him.....At least he will fight to preserve freedom and our way of life until next election when you will have a chance to vote in Hitlery Clinton and throw it all away.
lowing
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jonnykill wrote:

lowing wrote:

and no what really matters to me is results........and the result of Bushs efforts are no more attacks to date..........I know you hate that, I know you would like nothing more than to see a bomb explode in a major city so you can sink your fangs into bush yet again.
Results huh ? Look at the results in Iraq these days . See any improvements ? I see a civil war about to happen . Granted the news media gravitates toward every single bomb that explodes the news coming out of Iraq is bad , real bad . Probably going to get worse . If you have a problem with me not liking my President fine but don't throw words down my throat and say I or anybody here would enjoy seeing America get hit by another terrorist attack . I love this country just as much as you do . I'm just not pleased with the idiot running the show . Right now he is just a percentage away from having the lowest approval rating in US history . Also the poll right in this thread is telling as well . Looks like you guys have the smaller bus
Also, whith your great wisdom......explain to me what is was exactly that you liked about Bill Clinton and the way HE ran the show in combating terrorism...........Please keep in mind the 911 attacks were already being planned before Bush was elected.so......they were going to happen even if BOY WONDER Al Gore did get elected.....and instead of complaining, why don't you and the rest of the liberal think tank get together and come up with a plan to combat this world war?........you know, a plan alittle deeper than "bring the troops home"..I ask this since all liberals do is bitch and offer no solutions to any problems.......


You can say what you want, but I refuse to believe that you want this war to run smoothly and be a decisive victory for our country. Because if that happened you would most assuredly lose the next round of elections.
the last thing you want is to say Bush did well combating this threat.As a matter of fact...Even if it was an overwhelming victory you would dig and dig until you found ANYTHING to use against him..

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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
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Hmm...

lowing, wtf is with you and double posts?
It's like:
lowing posts.
lowing posts again.
Someone else (usu. Marconius) posts.
lowing posts
and where back to the start.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
lowing
Banned
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Spark wrote:

Hmm...

lowing, wtf is with you and double posts?
It's like:
lowing posts.
lowing posts again.
Someone else (usu. Marconius) posts.
lowing posts
and where back to the start.
Uhhhhhhhh simply that I wanted to add something to what I said??????......mayyyyyybeeeeeee???

Last edited by lowing (2006-03-29 05:14:43)

wannabe_tank_whore
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

I mean it's really hypocritical for the Republicans to be all up in arms about Clinton smoking pot but totally fine and hush hush with the cocaine and drunken driving charges.
Charges or conviction?  There's a huge difference.  "Have you ever been charged with a felony" doesn't appear on applications for a reason.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Bush doesn't run the whole government, just puts inexperienced people in important jobs(FEMA ring a bell, oh and Harriet Myers).
Myers was nominated and never appointed.  Facts escape you.  Work on that.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

The main point of this whole thing is Bush is a terrible president there hasn't been jobs produced,
Unemployment is at 4.7%.  Again, work on your facts.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

our country is losing major credibility to other countries, there is more to being president then War.   He has hired horrible people to make the disecions for him, and it's bit him in the ass everytime. Now the only real reason he is the president is that the dems actually picked someone worse then him. 

Now tell me what has improved in the past 6 years?
Our allies are still our allies.  Those countries that hate us still do.  No changes on that front.


The economy?  No dot com to ride on and the DOW is over 11,000.  Housing sales at an all time high.  Unemployment at 4.7%.  There are 3 for starters.
wannabe_tank_whore
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

Not comdeming just bringing up a valid point, Ohhh wait what Martha Stewart(pretty sure she's repulican) did?  Doesn't have to do with failing just has to do with screwing the little people out of money. I have liberal bealifes and conservative belifeas too.
http://www.talkleft.com/new_archives/005557.html

Is there like a site or something that liberals go to get lies?  She's a democrat.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

The Spanish train bombing, the British Bombings. Is Post 9/11 really safe, I don't belive in the ghost trap. For those of you who don't know the ghost trap is a trap where if nothing happens it's working. It was sold in the weekly world news. That's how I feel this war on terror is going, Horse are you from NYC? If so do you really feel safer?
Not to point out some facts or anything but those were in other countries.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Is it liberal to think that number 1 martha should have got harsher penitly, number 2 Enron was one of the worst things to happen to a slumping econimy?
I wasn't condeming non-liberals but when you use power to steal other peoples money your stealing worse then the people who are on welfare do. Also enron was in business for a while intill someone found out they where cooking the books. Whoops lots of Big bussiness goes out of business every year, but it's usually handed in what is no as a "take-over"

I work for a living always have always will as long as I don't get disabled, own two properties in Jersey and make a decent living. I don't want my money paying for the welfare of people whom are usually the criminal element as much as you don't. But I sure as hell don't want to be paying the people who are already rich out of my investments.

Give me some positive points about the president?
He's fighting terrorism on their soil.
wannabe_tank_whore
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

I mean honestly Bush was not well liked after the 2000 tie/however you want to put it. And the democrates managed to get the only candidate that was less likeable.
He was not liked by *democrats* because he won the election.
wannabe_tank_whore
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

Also alot of the equipment that went to war didn't have the armor(humvee's mostly) to protect you guys properly. We also still haven't found Bin Laden, who should have been target number 1.  Getting Sadam out of office was a victory for the Iraqi people but not really one for the american people, because he didn't pose a great threat to us, like North Korea and Iran.
How many years did it take to find Eric Rudolph in the North Carolina mountains?

That's in America, cpt.fass1.


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic … E_ID=34942

I guess Clinton was involved in orchestrating 9/11 too.
mofo65
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Horseman 77 wrote:

mofo65 wrote:

Your retraded step out of your trialer sometime.
There aren't any trailers in NYC. Just your neighborhood!

  Someone has been at the paint chips again.

  Move over jonnykill, make room on the " short bus " for one more.
Let me correct that - RETARDED

So you're from NYC, you probably use public transportation so I will excuse you from your inability to notice that we are paying 3x as much for gas yet oil companies have recorded profits that have exceeded any industry to date and the are excluded from paying taxes for drilling on public lands.  Trillion$ deficit, Chinese will be our primary language soon.  Health Insurance has increased 5x and the care covered is continuously decreasing.  Not even going to get into how well this war is doing and how much it cost. The war on terror there are still a lot of holes domestically.  As for my family and me I manage ok, but I'm in the top 4% on annuual income.  Feel sorry the rest of 96% who are doing without. you need to get out of your bubble to see what is really going on.
lowing
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It really is time for people to stop blaming Bush for all of their personal problems ( a typical liberal democrat stand)....The cold hard truth is that America is not here to take care of your sorry asses with free health insurance, and free fucking  hand outs.......America exists to give you the opportunity to TAKE CARE of YOURSELVES....that is it......If you don't have a savings or you over extended yourselves with credit cards or decided to live like your overtime was just part of your annual income, then it is your own dumb ass fault not Bushs not the republican parties fault.......HELL.....IT AIN"T EVEN BIN LADENS FAULT.........It is your own fault......I am tired of you liberals screaming how bad everything is and how the govt. isn't doing anything for anyone...for once in your miserable fucking lives.......stop being a fucking leech on society and get out and produce something other than crack babies and poverty....You are truely parasites
mofo65
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lowing wrote:

It really is time for people to stop blaming Bush for all of their personal problems ( a typical liberal democrat stand)....The cold hard truth is that America is not here to take care of your sorry asses with free health insurance, and free fucking  hand outs.......America exists to give you the opportunity to TAKE CARE of YOURSELVES....that is it......If you don't have a savings or you over extended yourselves with credit cards or decided to live like your overtime was just part of your annual income, then it is your own dumb ass fault not Bushs not the republican parties fault.......HELL.....IT AIN"T EVEN BIN LADENS FAULT.........It is your own fault......I am tired of you liberals screaming how bad everything is and how the govt. isn't doing anything for anyone...for once in your miserable fucking lives.......stop being a fucking leech on society and get out and produce something other than crack babies and poverty....You are truely parasites
It's funny how you can just simplify things like right, left, liberal, conservative, the issues and problems are a lot more dimensional then that. Personally I hate it when some one calls me liberal because I think Bush is a fucking idiot.  He adminstration is bought and paid for by who's interest has nothing to do with the well being of our country. If John McCain was running I would certainly vote for him, he's the real deal not some half ass college chearleader bumpkin like Bush. I do agree and act on one thing with you people do need to be responsible for their own being, but when the system is designed and continuing  to reform to keep a certain class in it's place. It is getting harder for them.  So all I have to say jump on your Bushy bandwagon, i wish you had the ability to see how stupid you appear to people that can think on their own
Horseman 77
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jonnykill wrote:

lowing wrote:

and no what really matters to me is results........and the result of Bushs efforts are no more attacks to date..........I know you hate that, I know you would like nothing more than to see a bomb explode in a major city so you can sink your fangs into bush yet again.
Results huh ? Look at the results in Iraq these days
Why not look at the results right here in NYC ?

jonnykill wrote:

See any improvements ?
Yes, ask anyone who has actually been there.

jonnykill wrote:

I see a civil war about to happen .
Sorry.. it didn't  HAPPEN. I know that makes you sad but get over it. If it had occurred, Getting them to handle their own affairs and care enough about there government to fight for it is a major score, preferably the good guys would win with our help, Worst case scenario ( that there all bad guys and they all hate us like you have been saying ) well then let them kill each other. Whats the down side?

 

jonnykill wrote:

the news coming out of Iraq is..
Slanted by the left wing media

jonnykill wrote:

Bush is just a percentage away from having the lowest approval rating in US history
Yea have you ever been polled? No one I know ever has.

Lincoln Had a very low approval rating during the Civil War,

Should he have bailed ala clinton ?

Its tough fighting a War " early " the smart, way becuase smack tards rarely understand.

What kind of Aproval would FDR have had if he had the balls to go after Japan or Hitler before they got Rolling built up and entrenched? I bet 6 million jews wished he had.

At least Bush can learn from history if you can't.

jonnykill wrote:

Looks like you guys have the smaller bus
Yes, Here you have me, your bus is bigger than mine, this I concede.

Note: your bus is Yellow and seats 12 kids in Wheelchairs, wearing helmets and licking the glass,

Ours is black and those in the Know refer to them as limos.  lol
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
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wannabe_tank_whore wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

I mean it's really hypocritical for the Republicans to be all up in arms about Clinton smoking pot but totally fine and hush hush with the cocaine and drunken driving charges.
Charges or conviction?  There's a huge difference.  "Have you ever been charged with a felony" doesn't appear on applications for a reason.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Bush doesn't run the whole government, just puts inexperienced people in important jobs(FEMA ring a bell, oh and Harriet Myers).
Myers was nominated and never appointed.  Facts escape you.  Work on that.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

The main point of this whole thing is Bush is a terrible president there hasn't been jobs produced,
Unemployment is at 4.7%.  Again, work on your facts.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

our country is losing major credibility to other countries, there is more to being president then War.   He has hired horrible people to make the disecions for him, and it's bit him in the ass everytime. Now the only real reason he is the president is that the dems actually picked someone worse then him. 

Now tell me what has improved in the past 6 years?
Our allies are still our allies.  Those countries that hate us still do.  No changes on that front.


The economy?  No dot com to ride on and the DOW is over 11,000.  Housing sales at an all time high.  Unemployment at 4.7%.  There are 3 for starters.
General unemployment figures like those don't take into account those unable to locate employment and are no longer in the system.  It also doesn't take into account the level of income obtained by a replacement job, only that they got one.  That is why median income is still down, even though unemployment numbers look good.

Housing took a major drop in Feb., taking the largest dive in 9 years.

Hmm, lets see what else.  Bush gave tax cuts, most of which went to the top wealthiest 1%, while very little of that made its way down to the average middle class tax payer.  He wants to make these custs permanent, while we have the worst trade deficits ever, we have the largest national debt ever, and he wants to increase the deficit ceiling to $9 trillion dollars.

What else, oh yeah, Iraq.  Was Sadam a bad guy that needed to go?  Absolutely.  However, it was us that put him in power.  Oh yeah, it was under a republican/conservative (i.e. war monger party) that he came into power.  We went their under the guise of WMDs.  None were found, but the conservative conspiracy theorists say he moved them.  Yeah, under all of our intelligence and satelites he completely moved all traces of WMD manufacture.  Yeah, sure.  Then the policy to changed to liberation.  Sorry, there are countries with histories of treating their people as bad as Sadam, they just don't have massive amounts of oil to make their invasion worthwhile (i.e. Republicans needed to find ways for their elite wealthy friends to make even more money).

If, as conservative Republicans want to say, that WTC was being planned while Clinton was in office, that would mean the WTC bombing of 1993 was being planned under GWBs very own father, Bush Sr.

What have we accomplished in Iraq?  Well, they have a government that is still very much in dispute by many Iaqis, they are in the beginning of a civil war, the money they were supposed to have to rebuild their country from their oil supplies keeps going up in smoke as terrorists attack the pipelines, insurgent bombings of convoys, checkpoints, police stations, hotels and about anything else they want to hit are pretty regular.  So, if we are doing such a fine job fighting terrorists on their own soil, how is that?  Even if we aren't responsible for Spain or Britains security, the fact that terrorists can still strike them shows that we haven't brought it under control because the fact of the matter is that terrorism is an ideal, not a group of people that can be quantified as a target.

In 1976, Saddam rose to the position of general in the Iraqi armed forces. He rapidly became the strongman of the government. At the time Saddam was considered an enemy of communism and radical islamism, and at one point Donald Rumsfeld, special envoy of President Ronald Reagan at the time, met with him. Saddam was integral to US policy in the region which tried to weaken the influence of Iran and the Soviet Union. As Iraq's weak and elderly President Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr became increasingly unable to execute the duties of his office, Saddam began to take an increasingly prominent role as the face of the Iraqi government, both internally and externally. He soon became the architect of Iraq's foreign policy and represented the nation in all diplomatic situations. He was the de facto ruler of Iraq some years before he formally came to power in 1979. He slowly began to consolidate his power over Iraq's government and the Ba'ath party. Relationships with fellow party members were carefully cultivated, and Saddam soon gained a powerful circle of support within the party.
^^^^^^

We know how Sadam being in power turned out, now don't we.

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wannabe_tank_whore
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Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

General unemployment figures like those don't take into account those unable to locate employment and are no longer in the system.  It also doesn't take into account the level of income obtained by a replacement job, only that they got one.  That is why median income is still down, even though unemployment numbers look good.
That's what democrats say when a republican is president.   And that's speculation.  Unless you have statistics.

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Housing took a major drop in Feb., taking the largest dive in 9 years.
Wait until you see March's numbers.  First 2 weeks showed a strong rise.

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Hmm, lets see what else.  Bush gave tax cuts, most of which went to the top wealthiest 1%, while very little of that made its way down to the average middle class tax payer.  He wants to make these custs permanent, while we have the worst trade deficits ever, we have the largest national debt ever, and he wants to increase the deficit ceiling to $9 trillion dollars.
It's quite sad that the majority of taxes are paid by those 1% evil rich people.  Besides, it's the rich who start ventures that create jobs that you apply for.  Funny how our economy works when you look at it. 

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

What else, oh yeah, Iraq.  Was Sadam a bad guy that needed to go?  Absolutely.  However, it was us that put him in power.  Oh yeah, it was under a republican/conservative (i.e. war monger party) that he came into power.  We went their under the guise of WMDs.  None were found, but the conservative conspiracy theorists say he moved them.  Yeah, under all of our intelligence and satelites he completely moved all traces of WMD manufacture.  Yeah, sure.  Then the policy to changed to liberation.  Sorry, there are countries with histories of treating their people as bad as Sadam, they just don't have massive amounts of oil to make their invasion worthwhile (i.e. Republicans needed to find ways for their elite wealthy friends to make even more money).
We had nothing to do with his rise.  When he got to the position where he had influence we strengthened him and he used that to take over Iraq.

Powel showed to the UN trucks that could relocate was believed to contain WMDs.  Why couldn't those leave Iraq?
The lib conspiracy theorists think Bush set up 911 too.  What's your point?
We got 3% of our oil from Iraq in the previous years.  That holds no water.

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

If, as conservative Republicans want to say, that WTC was being planned while Clinton was in office, that would mean the WTC bombing of 1993 was being planned under GWBs very own father, Bush Sr.

What have we accomplished in Iraq?  Well, they have a government that is still very much in dispute by many Iaqis, they are in the beginning of a civil war, the money they were supposed to have to rebuild their country from their oil supplies keeps going up in smoke as terrorists attack the pipelines, insurgent bombings of convoys, checkpoints, police stations, hotels and about anything else they want to hit are pretty regular.  So, if we are doing such a fine job fighting terrorists on their own soil, how is that?  Even if we aren't responsible for Spain or Britains security, the fact that terrorists can still strike them shows that we haven't brought it under control because the fact of the matter is that terrorism is an ideal, not a group of people that can be quantified as a target.
How long did it take America to build its government?  What civil war?  Most of the 'insurgents' are from other countries.  Nothing civil about that.  What's happening is the equivalent to gang violence in Los Angeles except they are killing Iraqis.

Let's see... give refuge to mullahs and ignore their threats against the government and what do you get... oh yeah, train bombings.  Their immigration policy bred that and the government turned a blind eye. 

If you think it is an ideal then join them.  Start a 'revolution'.
Horseman 77
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mofo65 wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

mofo65 wrote:

Your retraded step out of your trialer sometime.
There aren't any trailers in NYC. Just your neighborhood!

  Someone has been at the paint chips again.

  Move over jonnykill, make room on the " short bus " for one more.
Let me corect that - RETARDED

mofo65 wrote:

So you're from NYC, you probably use public transpotation so I will excuse you from your enability to notice that we are paying 3x as much for gas yet oil companies have recorded profits that have exceeded any industry to date and the are excluded from paying taxes for drilling on public lands.
Talk about a Run On Sentence. !  Its easy to picture the spit flying out of his mouth.

OK. Once again you presume to speak for me. I use the subway and I have a car. Gas prices spiked during Hurricane Katriana. The other stuff like Profits and Taxes, Bush didn't rig this up, it was already in place. Where are you trying to go with this?
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mofo65 wrote:

Trillion$ deficit,
You did notice the War Right?  If we had hit back earlier we probably wouldn't be fighting it, but alas
the previous administration ignored attack after attack until it really cost us bad. ( 911 )

mofo65 wrote:

Chinese will be our primary language soon.
You lost me here, what does this fact mean? I know the Chinese were clintons biggest camping contributors but I see no connection to this topic.

anyone ? anyone ? lol.

mofo65 wrote:

Health Insurance has increased 5x and the care covered is continuously decreasing.
I know clinton promised in his 92 campain to provide all with Free heath insurance if he was elected.

" if you have this card, your covered ! " 

He had 8 years to do it, 4 years with a democratic majority in the house and senate but,
I see no connection to this topic.

mofo65 wrote:

Not even going to get into how well this war is doing and how much it cost.
Again, If we had hit back earlier we probably wouldn't be fighting the war, but alas
the previous administration ignored attack after attack until it really cost us bad ( 911 )

mofo65 wrote:

The war on terror there are still a lot of holes domestically.
Anyone know what he is trying to say here  ? Anyone? lol.

mofo65 wrote:

As for my family and me I manage ok, but I'm in the 4% .
I guess they got that lead base paint all cleaned up. I thought it was a higher percentile than 4.
Your trailer is a newer model huh?

mofo65 wrote:

you need to get out of your bubbel to see what is really going on.
You know nothing of me or what I see, that's how you got your panties all twisted to begin with, just voice your opinion.  When you try and trash people you just come off as a dumb kid.

Ps is Mofo a refrence to the Old Penn & Teller act or some Eubonics thing ?

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