Kmar
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Ain't US Citizens.
Which is where the Geneva Convention kicks in.

And what does that say?

OH, yeah... "Innocent until proven guilty."
Lawful combatants you say?
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SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
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Kmarion wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Ain't US Citizens.
Which is where the Geneva Convention kicks in.

And what does that say?

OH, yeah... "Innocent until proven guilty."
Lawful combatants you say?
Well we could have executed them under the GC. But those are just details Kerry.
13rin
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SgtHeihn wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:


Which is where the Geneva Convention kicks in.

And what does that say?

OH, yeah... "Innocent until proven guilty."
Lawful combatants you say?
Well we could have executed them under the GC. But those are just details Kerry.
Not like the other side gets bogged down in details.  We get it.
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Dilbert_X
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And I think we have been.  Again, why should we hold those who want my countrymen exterminated with the same elevated status when they don't even allow their women right equal to theirs?
Well we could have executed them under the GC. But those are just details Kerry.
Don't they have to be convicted of something first?

Out of ~750 rounded up only ~30 have even been charged.
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Rohirm
Fear is a Leash
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Well this was not unexpected: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/23/ … index.html

Detainee went from Gitmo to al Qaeda, officials say

CNN wrote:

A Saudi national released from U.S. detention at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in September 2007 is believed to be a key leader in al Qaeda's operations in Yemen, according to a U.S. counterterrorism official.
Ali al-Shiri was released in 2007 from the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The Defense Department recently estimated that more than 60 terrorists released from Guantanamo may have returned to the battlefield.

According to the counterterrorism official, freed detainee Ali al-Shiri traveled to Yemen after being released to Saudi Arabia and may have been involved in recent al Qaeda attacks in Yemen, including a car bombing outside the U.S. Embassy in Sanaa last year that killed nearly a dozen people.

"He is one of a handful of al Qaeda deputies in Yemen," the official said. "He is one of the top terrorists."

His title is deputy and senior operations commander, the source said.

According to the magazine Sada al-Malahem, or The Echo of the Epics, published by al Qaeda in Yemen, al-Shiri attended a media session in which Yemen commander Abu Baseer was interviewed.

The magazine identified al-Shiri as Baseer's deputy commander and quoted Baseer as announcing that al Qaeda's operations in Yemen and Saudi Arabia have been combined to become al Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula.

The magazine noted that al-Shiri was released from Guantanamo more than 10 months ago.

He fled a Saudi jihadi re-education program, where he went after his release, a Saudi source told CNN's Nic Robertson.

President Obama on Thursday signed an order mandating that the Guantanamo Bay prison be closed within the year. What to do with the detainees has been a hotly debated topic.

The issue of freed detainees engaging in terrorism is one concern. Another is housing them in prisons inside the United States.

Rep. Bill Young, R-Florida, said he has "quite a bit of anxiety" about the possibility of transferring detainees to U.S. facilities.

"Number one, they're dangerous," Young said. "Secondly, once they become present in the United States, what is their legal status? What is their constitutional status? I worry about that, because I don't want them to have the same constitutional rights that you and I have. They're our enemy."

Obama's decision to close the Guantanamo facility received immediate backing from his general election opponent, Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain.

McCain, in a joint statement with South Carolina GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham, said he supported Obama's decision to "begin a process that will, we hope, lead to the resolution of all cases of Guantanamo detainees."

But Thursday night on CNN's "Larry King Live," McCain said the new president may have been hasty in the decision and should have taken the time to consider everything associated with closing the camp before forcing himself into a timetable.

Specifically, McCain said he thought Obama needed to consider what would happen to the prisoners held at Guantanamo before ordering the facility to be closed.

"So, the easy part, in all due respect, is to say we're going to close Guantanamo," McCain said. "Then I think I would have said where they were going to be taken. Because you're going to run into a NIMBY [not in my backyard] problem here in the United States of America." 

Asked about that issue Thursday, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said, "We have developed some options in terms of how many we think could be returned to other countries to take them. That diplomatic initiative has not started. That will await work in carrying out the executive order."

"We have identified a number of possible prisons here in the United States" that could take the detainees. However, Gates added, "I've heard from members of Congress [representing] where all those prisons are located. Their enthusiasm is limited."
Discuss.

Last edited by Rohirm (2009-01-23 09:34:20)

Spark
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If you're so convinced their guilty, hurry up and charge them!
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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usmarine
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lol geneva convention
cpt.fass1
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Spark wrote:

If you're so convinced their guilty, hurry up and charge them!
We can't because if we charge them, they'll have to be convicted by our rules.. Which means they'll go free unless we prove without a shadow of a doubt that they are what we charged them for.. We can't convicted someone of a thought crime, can we?

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