lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA
It is well worth the read and ohhhhhhh soooooooo true. I can not wait to read the denial, and the excuses this letter sparks.


"To All My Valued Employees,

There have been some rumblings around the office about the future of this company, and more specifically, your job. As you know, the economy has changed for the worse and presents many challenges. However, the good news is this: The economy doesn't pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job however, is the changing political landscape in this country.

However, let me tell you some little tidbits of fact which might help you decide what is in your best interests.



First, while it is easy to spew rhetoric that casts employers against employees, you have to understand that for every business owner there is a back story. This back story is often neglected and overshadowed by what you see and hear. Sure, you see me park my Mercedes outside. You've seen my big home at last years Christmas party. I'm sure; all these flashy icons of luxury conjure up some idealized thoughts about my life.


However, what you don't see is the back story.


I started this company 28 years ago. At that time, I lived in a 300 square foot studio apartment for 3 years. My entire living apartment was converted into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company, which by the way, would eventually employ you.

My diet consisted of Ramen Pride noodles because every dollar I spent went back into this company. I drove a rusty Toyota Corolla with a defective transmission. I didn't have time to date. Often times, I stayed home on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business -- hard work, discipline, and sacrifice.

Meanwhile, my friends got jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a modest $50K a year and spent every dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. Instead of hitting the Nordstrom's for the latest hot fashion item, I was trolling through the Goodwill store extracting any clothing item that didn't look like it was birthed in the 70's. My friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into a business with a vision that eventually, some day, I too, will be able to afford these luxuries my friends supposedly had.

So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9am, mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5pm, I don't. There is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat, and breathe this company every minute of the day. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. Every day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year old special-needs child. You, of course, only see the fruits of that garden -- the nice house, the Mercedes, the vacations... You never realize the back story and the sacrifices I've made.

Now, the economy is falling apart and I, the guy that made all the right decisions and saved his money, have to bail-out all the people who didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed a decade of my life for.

Yes, business ownership has is benefits but the price I've paid is steep and not without wounds.

Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and employing you, is starting to eclipse the threshold of marginal benefit and let me tell you why:

I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I don't pay enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes. Property taxes. Sales and use taxes. Payroll taxes. Workers compensation taxes. Unemployment taxes. Taxes on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes for employing him. Government mandates and regulations and all the accounting that goes with it, now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly taxes. You know what my "stimulus" check was? Zero. Nada. Zilch.

The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the economy? Me, the guy who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000 people per year with a flourishing business? Or, the single mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child waiting for her next welfare check? Obviously, government feels the latter is the economic stimulus of this country.

The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your paycheck you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? That's nuts. Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, I agree which is why your job is in jeopardy.

Here is what many of you don't understand ... to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Had suddenly government mandated to me that I didn't need to pay taxes, guess what? Instead of depositing that $288,000 into the Washington black-hole, I would have spent it, hired more employees, and generated substantial economic growth. My employees would have enjoyed the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But you can forget it now.

When you have a comatose man on the verge of death, you don't defibrillate and shock his thumb thinking that will bring him back to life, do you? Or, do you defibrillate his heart? Business is at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate it, not kill it. Suddenly, the power brokers in Washington believe the poor of America are the essential drivers of the American economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change you can keep.

So where am I going with all this?



It's quite simple.

If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, my reaction will be swift and simple. I fire you. I fire your co-workers. You can then plead with the government to pay for your mortgage, your SUV, and your child's future. Frankly, it isn't my problem any more.

Then, I will close this company down, move to another country, and retire. You see, I'm done. I'm done with a country that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, will be my citizenship.

If you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the economy; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country, steamrolled the constitution, and will have changed its landscape forever. If that happens, you can find me sitting on a beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about....

Signed,

Your boss"
AussieReaper
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The moral of the story?

Exploit the workers. They won't notice if you blame the "changing political landscape" and invite them to your luxury home for Christmas, out of the kindness of your heart - of course. It will be a sure way to distract them from their own sad little lives.

And if they lose their jobs, again the it's the fault of the "political hurricane that swept through this country, steamrolled the constitution," and yes, here it is again, "changed its [political] landscape forever".

But don't worry. I do care for each and every one of you. And should you lose your job, be sure to look me up. I'll be "sitting on a beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about...."
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sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6756|Argentina
It sure is a real letter. /sarcasm
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

TheAussieReaper wrote:

The moral of the story?

Exploit the workers. They won't notice if you blame the "changing political landscape" and invite them to your luxury home for Christmas, out of the kindness of your heart - of course. It will be a sure way to distract them from their own sad little lives.

And if they lose their jobs, again the it's the fault of the "political hurricane that swept through this country, steamrolled the constitution," and yes, here it is again, "changed its [political] landscape forever".

But don't worry. I do care for each and every one of you. And should you lose your job, be sure to look me up. I'll be "sitting on a beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about...."
I didn't know employing 14 people with good paying jobs, as an exploitation. I am guessing you are one of those people in the "entitlement" crowd, scoot over Cam, ya got company. We have another person that thinks people start and build businesses for the purpose of paying people their entitlement.

Last edited by lowing (2009-01-20 05:19:17)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

sergeriver wrote:

It sure is a real letter. /sarcasm
Well if it wasn't written to any employees, it is written now, so what is there about it that is untrue?
AussieReaper
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lowing wrote:

I vdidn't know employing 14 people with good paying jobs, as an exploitation. I am guessing you are one of those people in the "entitlement" crowd, scoot over Cam, ya got company. We have another person that thinks people start and build businesses for the purpose of paying people their entitlement.
Sorry, these 14 people and Santa Claus boss are real? This looks suspiciously like a chain mail letter to me.

Which business exactly did this guy build up?

lowing wrote:

I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I don't pay enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes. Property taxes. Sales and use taxes. Payroll taxes. Workers compensation taxes. Unemployment taxes. Taxes on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes for employing him. Government mandates and regulations and all the accounting that goes with it, now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly taxes. You know what my "stimulus" check was? Zero. Nada. Zilch.
Taxed to death hey? Well you've always got a fucking mansion, luxury Mercedes and extravagant beach house retirement fund to dip into... Oooh, the tax man want's to take away MY money and give it to the community. I'm no longer part of the community now that I am rich.

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lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

TheAussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

I vdidn't know employing 14 people with good paying jobs, as an exploitation. I am guessing you are one of those people in the "entitlement" crowd, scoot over Cam, ya got company. We have another person that thinks people start and build businesses for the purpose of paying people their entitlement.
Sorry, these 14 people and Santa Claus boss are real? This looks suspiciously like a chain mail letter to me.

Which business exactly did this guy build up?

lowing wrote:

I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I don't pay enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes. Property taxes. Sales and use taxes. Payroll taxes. Workers compensation taxes. Unemployment taxes. Taxes on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes for employing him. Government mandates and regulations and all the accounting that goes with it, now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly taxes. You know what my "stimulus" check was? Zero. Nada. Zilch.
Taxed to death hey? Well you've always got a fucking mansion, luxury Mercedes and extravagant beach house retirement fund to dip into... Oooh, the tax man want's to take away MY money and give it to the community. I'm no longer part of the community now that I am rich.

You act as if this letter if it wasn't real, does not apply to those that actually build businesses. Sad really, I guess entitlement clouds your appreciation for what people actually do and sacrifice in order t obuild businesses that employ us.



As for your second comment, my response is in my sig.
AussieReaper
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lowing wrote:

You act as if this letter if it wasn't real, does not apply to those that actually build businesses. Sad really, I guess entitlement clouds your appreciation for what people actually do and sacrifice in order t obuild businesses that employ us.
Sacrifice?

lowing wrote:

The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your paycheck you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? That's nuts. Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, I agree which is why your job is in jeopardy.
I dunno boss, 50% doesn;t sound too bad.... Here me out, I'll tell you what I think.

See if I was making $14 million per year I'd still work for you with a 50% pay cut to just $7million. I'll sacrifice just as much as you, mate. Don't you worry about that.

If the tax man is taking away $7million of your money, I say let him take away $7million of mine. We'll still each have $7million right? Doesn't sound that bad, really.
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JahManRed
wank
+646|6627|IRELAND

At the OP. Well I understand where he is coming from. But in reality he has to adapt his business to suit the market. That's business. If need be fire some people, trim the fat. The business will struggle for a couple of years. The people who over spent and lost homes etc have that to deal with for the rest of their days.
You shouldn't just be blaming the people who spent money they didn't have like crazy. Its the people who deregularized the banking system. The people who handed out money to ppl who couldn't afford it to boost their own bonus. People are sheep. I know guys who I went to school with who got money they really shouldn't have from the banks. Bought land, build house, fixed up houses etc and are now worth millions. I also know guys who got money they shouldn't have and bought at the wrong time and are now fucked. It was a feeding frenzy and it was all a question of timing. When you see a guy you went to school with make 1million in a year from property you would be tempted. Lots where, they didn't see the end. The government and banks were telling us everything is rosey, there was no end, "here have some money" you can see how ppl got sucked in. I was tempted and was in a better position to get into the properly game than most. It was the figures and loans that freaked me out.

Substitute 300sq ft Apartment with 150sq ft Mobile home and shopping in charity shops to getting your years supply of clothes from Santa and its close to the way I used to live. Took me 5 years to get my company to the stage where I can buy shit I want.
To get the experience to do this job I had to work 2 years on £50 a week as my employer had to put so much training time in. People on benefits get more.
I have a young guy working for me who I brought in under the same idea. Only I started him on £150 a week and told him it could double dependant on his performance. Where as I was a sponge for information, he skives on the Internet and does just enough work to cover his wages.
Instead of asking how to do something. He spends 5 hours doing it wrong, then asks me to fix it for him. He lives with his parents. /RANT
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6756|Argentina

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

It sure is a real letter. /sarcasm
Well if it wasn't written to any employees, it is written now, so what is there about it that is untrue?
First off I bet you that if you google some part of this letter you will get several entries, and then you can't generalize about all the employers working their ass off to build a company.  Some did and some just didn't.  I have my own business with employees but I can't say I drove a shitty Corolla or used my home as office to build a company or ate ramen coz every cent went to it.  That's a generalization.  You can build a company and you don't deserve a Nobel prize for that.
AussieReaper
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lowing wrote:

The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the economy? Me, the guy who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000 people per year with a flourishing business? Or, the single mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child waiting for her next welfare check? Obviously, government feels the latter is the economic stimulus of this country.
I'll be serious for a moment lowing, although it's hard too do with such a sappy piece of literature to grace the internet it's rather hard to do.

But tell me, who is more deserving of an economic stimulus? The single mother, pregnant with her forth child on welfare, or the big business owner who's retiring to a beach house villa?

Who really needs financial help?

Before you say well obv the big business owner who'll pass every cent of this package on to his beloved employee's, do you really think he isn't just going to put it towards an aggressive takeover of another company? Put others out of work in doing so? Maybe just throw it into his retirement fund? What is this guy going to do with more money? He doesn't need it.

Economic stimulus packages are targeted towards low income earners. Because an economic stimulus is only going to be spent by one kind of person. The one which needs the money. The one who will immediately spend it. Because spending money is what stimulates an economy. Not adding another zero to the boss's bank balance.
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lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

TheAussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the economy? Me, the guy who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000 people per year with a flourishing business? Or, the single mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child waiting for her next welfare check? Obviously, government feels the latter is the economic stimulus of this country.
I'll be serious for a moment lowing, although it's hard too do with such a sappy piece of literature to grace the internet it's rather hard to do.

But tell me, who is more deserving of an economic stimulus? The single mother, pregnant with her forth child on welfare, or the big business owner who's retiring to a beach house villa?

Who really needs financial help?

Before you say well obv the big business owner who'll pass every cent of this package on to his beloved employee's, do you really think he isn't just going to put it towards an aggressive takeover of another company? Put others out of work in doing so? Maybe just throw it into his retirement fund? What is this guy going to do with more money? He doesn't need it.

Economic stimulus packages are targeted towards low income earners. Because an economic stimulus is only going to be spent by one kind of person. The one which needs the money. The one who will immediately spend it. Because spending money is what stimulates an economy. Not adding another zero to the boss's bank balance.
I thought you were gunna get serious?

As the letter points out. It isn't the poor that drives the economic engine. It is the achievers, the builders. Giving money to the poor does nothing for the economy. Giving it to those that will build businesses that provide jobs, is what drives our economy.
AussieReaper
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lowing wrote:

I thought you were gunna get serious?

As the letter points out. It isn't the poor that drives the economic engine. It is the achievers, the builders. Giving money to the poor does nothing for the economy. Giving it to those that will build businesses that provide jobs, is what drives our economy.
Well you've just failed economics 101.
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lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

It sure is a real letter. /sarcasm
Well if it wasn't written to any employees, it is written now, so what is there about it that is untrue?
First off I bet you that if you google some part of this letter you will get several entries, and then you can't generalize about all the employers working their ass off to build a company.  Some did and some just didn't.  I have my own business with employees but I can't say I drove a shitty Corolla or used my home as office to build a company or ate ramen coz every cent went to it.  That's a generalization.  You can build a company and you don't deserve a Nobel prize for that.
He didn't say he deserved a nobel prize, he said his life was this business and all of his efforts went into it
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6756|Argentina

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:


Well if it wasn't written to any employees, it is written now, so what is there about it that is untrue?
First off I bet you that if you google some part of this letter you will get several entries, and then you can't generalize about all the employers working their ass off to build a company.  Some did and some just didn't.  I have my own business with employees but I can't say I drove a shitty Corolla or used my home as office to build a company or ate ramen coz every cent went to it.  That's a generalization.  You can build a company and you don't deserve a Nobel prize for that.
He didn't say he deserved a nobel prize, he said his life was this business and all of his efforts went into it
So?  This is a fake letter that's all over the internet, and even if it was true, who cares it still is a generalization.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6492|Connecticut
Funny, this is the letter that ATG wrote Ceaser a few months back.
Malloy must go
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|6765|Cambridge (UK)

lowing wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the economy? Me, the guy who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000 people per year with a flourishing business? Or, the single mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child waiting for her next welfare check? Obviously, government feels the latter is the economic stimulus of this country.
I'll be serious for a moment lowing, although it's hard too do with such a sappy piece of literature to grace the internet it's rather hard to do.

But tell me, who is more deserving of an economic stimulus? The single mother, pregnant with her forth child on welfare, or the big business owner who's retiring to a beach house villa?

Who really needs financial help?

Before you say well obv the big business owner who'll pass every cent of this package on to his beloved employee's, do you really think he isn't just going to put it towards an aggressive takeover of another company? Put others out of work in doing so? Maybe just throw it into his retirement fund? What is this guy going to do with more money? He doesn't need it.

Economic stimulus packages are targeted towards low income earners. Because an economic stimulus is only going to be spent by one kind of person. The one which needs the money. The one who will immediately spend it. Because spending money is what stimulates an economy. Not adding another zero to the boss's bank balance.
I thought you were gunna get serious?

As the letter points out. It isn't the poor that drives the economic engine. It is the achievers, the builders. Giving money to the poor does nothing for the economy. Giving it to those that will build businesses that provide jobs, is what drives our economy.
And who gives the businesses the money to pay their employees, lowing?

THE CUSTOMERS

As the Reapster says - giving money to the poor works because they SPEND IT - they spend it on the products that are produced by the companies that, and this is the only correct thing you've stated all thread, do indeed drive the economy.

NO CUSTOMERS (or only 'potential customers' with no money)=NO INCOME=NO COMPANY
AussieReaper
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Wow, my boss.

Don't call me that word. I don't like things that elevate me above the other people. I'm just like you. Oh, sure, I come later in the day, I get paid a lot more and I take longer vacations, but I don't like the word "boss".

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lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


First off I bet you that if you google some part of this letter you will get several entries, and then you can't generalize about all the employers working their ass off to build a company.  Some did and some just didn't.  I have my own business with employees but I can't say I drove a shitty Corolla or used my home as office to build a company or ate ramen coz every cent went to it.  That's a generalization.  You can build a company and you don't deserve a Nobel prize for that.
He didn't say he deserved a nobel prize, he said his life was this business and all of his efforts went into it
So?  This is a fake letter that's all over the internet, and even if it was true, who cares it still is a generalization.
I am asking you to ponder the fact that it is real people that build businesses and make real sacrifices for their businesses to grow. I am asking you to ponder that, even if the letter is not true, that its contents is true.  I want you to ponder how the entitlement administration is going to affect small businesses all over the country.
AussieReaper
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lowing wrote:

I am asking you to ponder the fact that it is real people that build businesses and make real sacrifices for their businesses to grow. I am asking you to ponder that, even if the letter is not true, that its contents is true.  I want you to ponder how the entitlement administration is going to affect small businesses all over the country.
What real sacrifices?

lowing wrote:

If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, my reaction will be swift and simple. I fire you. I fire your co-workers. You can then plead with the government to pay for your mortgage, your SUV, and your child's future. Frankly, it isn't my problem any more.

Then, I will close this company down, move to another country, and retire. You see, I'm done.
I'm going to fire you, your co-workers close the business and flee the country to live on a beach?

What SACRIFICES?
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Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|5998|...
My mom's business was at it's lowest point during 07, and the letter does somewhat point out the situation many employers find themselves in. Her "rich pension" and the savings were completely depleted, everything went into the company. She also had to take a second mortgage on the house to keep the company up.

it is very true that the small businesses and companies stimulate the economy. They're essential.

TheAussieReaper wrote:

What SACRIFICES?
that which you worked your whole life for, destroyed. For many employers their company is their life and dream.

and I don't think many employers will have the money to even move out of the country and go on a beach.

Last edited by dayarath (2009-01-20 05:56:07)

inane little opines
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6756|Argentina

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:


He didn't say he deserved a nobel prize, he said his life was this business and all of his efforts went into it
So?  This is a fake letter that's all over the internet, and even if it was true, who cares it still is a generalization.
I am asking you to ponder the fact that it is real people that build businesses and make real sacrifices for their businesses to grow. I am asking you to ponder that, even if the letter is not true, that its contents is true.  I want you to ponder how the entitlement administration is going to affect small businesses all over the country.
I see where you're coming from.  Isn't it you the one thta's constantly lecturing about personal responsibilities, yet you are going to place the blame on a new administration the very same day it's taking the office.
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
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If he pays $288.000 in quarterly taxes and only have 14 employees i would say he is making a lot of money and complains for all the wrong reasons ... fake if i ever saw it ... and if fake not a very trustworthy OP tbfh ... try again lowing ...
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lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:


I'll be serious for a moment lowing, although it's hard too do with such a sappy piece of literature to grace the internet it's rather hard to do.

But tell me, who is more deserving of an economic stimulus? The single mother, pregnant with her forth child on welfare, or the big business owner who's retiring to a beach house villa?

Who really needs financial help?

Before you say well obv the big business owner who'll pass every cent of this package on to his beloved employee's, do you really think he isn't just going to put it towards an aggressive takeover of another company? Put others out of work in doing so? Maybe just throw it into his retirement fund? What is this guy going to do with more money? He doesn't need it.

Economic stimulus packages are targeted towards low income earners. Because an economic stimulus is only going to be spent by one kind of person. The one which needs the money. The one who will immediately spend it. Because spending money is what stimulates an economy. Not adding another zero to the boss's bank balance.
I thought you were gunna get serious?

As the letter points out. It isn't the poor that drives the economic engine. It is the achievers, the builders. Giving money to the poor does nothing for the economy. Giving it to those that will build businesses that provide jobs, is what drives our economy.
And who gives the businesses the money to pay their employees, lowing?

THE CUSTOMERS

As the Reapster says - giving money to the poor works because they SPEND IT - they spend it on the products that are produced by the companies that, and this is the only correct thing you've stated all thread, do indeed drive the economy.

NO CUSTOMERS (or only 'potential customers' with no money)=NO INCOME=NO COMPANY
The poor spend money? How so, the poor, by definition, have no money.

I love how you want to "GIVE" the poor money. Any chance you support people actually EARNING money? Who do you suppose are the big "GIVERS" to the poor, and where do these "GIVERS" EARN their money to just GIVE away to the poor? Do ya think these giver might want a say in what happens to the money they earn? MAybe these earners might want to keep it for themselves or put it to a better use like re-investment into what they have build. Just guessing
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|5998|...

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

And who gives the businesses the money to pay their employees, lowing?

THE CUSTOMERS

As the Reapster says - giving money to the poor works because they SPEND IT - they spend it on the products that are produced by the companies that, and this is the only correct thing you've stated all thread, do indeed drive the economy.

NO CUSTOMERS (or only 'potential customers' with no money)=NO INCOME=NO COMPANY
wouldn't it be better to provide businesses with money to expand, hiring more employees? that way you ensure that these people can generate their own money, and have a reliable source of income at that. Moreover you provide the market with jobs. Giving money to someone without a job is hardly stimulating the economy.

It's the same situation as giving a man a fish, so that he can eat for a day - or give him the possibility to fish for himself.
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