Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6765|London
Topic for debate: Battlefield 2 was at it's best during patch 1.12 (maybe 1.2 at a stretch). This is when the best players played, the game required the most skill and 90% of 'good' players now are only good because all the high skillerz have already left for greener pastures. If a magic time machine transported these newbs back to 1.12 they would get raped by the top teams.

Discuss.
jord
Member
+2,382|6868|The North, beyond the wall.
Whilst there wasn't much "skill" in raping bots... I mean players on Mashtuur with the blackhawk it sure was a lot more fun...


Oh and the UGL was good as well back then.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|7033|Reykjavík, Iceland.
1.12 was best, missiles were useless, making pilots rely on actual skill (canons) rather than luck or just use a J-10 to flip the advantage.
JAyThaRevo
Member
+31|6477|Austria
gl was OVERPOWERED

and i BET if we would still play in 1.12 we would have a shit load to cry about too
=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6555|California
Face it, people cry about anything games to life theirs no end. It's how we humans do it, we whine.
jord
Member
+2,382|6868|The North, beyond the wall.

JAyThaRevo wrote:

gl was OVERPOWERED

and i BET if we would still play in 1.12 we would have a shit load to cry about too
"We". Who are you speaking for, or did you just proclaim yourself to be a bf2 god?
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|6839
i slice you in every patch..

bitchez
blah
macaroni with cheeseeee
+111|5937|Croatia
I loved BF2 until 1.3

-there was no IO
-Not many hackers and cheaters
-All maps were equally played(as opposite to now where there is only 1 zatar server somewhere in the fucking Fiji,,90% of other people play Wake only/ Karkland IO )
-you could chuck C4
-it was all around fun and people were great,you could really have a time with your mates
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6643|The Twilight Zone
Gulf of Oman demo ftw
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Axatar
Member
+29|6652|France
Yeah, the demo version when all MEC players were waiting for a jet for ages only to drop themselves on the carrier trying to snipe.
specialistx2324
hahahahahhaa
+244|6878|arica harbour
the earlier patches made BF2 very respectable i had good friends that i played before in BF2, good memories, very few retards, nice administrators and so on. and i still miss my c4 throwing technique. people move on just like me when the game started to get very fustrating, CTD 1.3 patch and hackers galore. i remember my encounter with teamgod.net. and when GODJOEY was releasing haxs videos.
.Sup
be nice
+2,646|6643|The Twilight Zone

Axatar wrote:

Yeah, the demo version when all MEC players were waiting for a jet for ages only to drop themselves on the carrier trying to snipe.
Well I kinda owned in the demo. You didn't?
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=NHB=Shadow
hi
+322|6555|California
I present you "C4 Chucking at its finest"
STARING: SnarF
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Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6765|London

=NHB=Shadow wrote:

I present you "C4 Chucking at its finest"
STARING: SnarF
Made by: Snoken
http://media.putfile.com/snarf
Legendary.
Oisín | Irishpride
Banned
+118|5784|Dublin, Ireland
BF2 quickfix:

Revert back to 1.21

Kthxbai
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6658
I prefer games that take less skill tbh.

Means one asshole can't dominate everyone.

1.4 > 1.12

faggots.
Arnie_Ze_Austrian
Member
+55|6332
This is when the best players played, the game required the most skill and 90% of 'good' players now are only good because all the high skillerz have already left for greener pastures
The notion that players back in the old days had more skill is generally bullshit.  I see people claiming this in near enough every game I've played.  In reality, the skill level gradually increases across the board.  If you transported the current best back 2 years, they'd have 2 more years of playing experience over whoever was playing at that point.  If you learn new tricks and keep improving (even slightly) for a few years, you will be better than you used to be.  People don't magically become worse at a game just because they didn't play it during its 'prime'.

To illustrate this point:

I used to play in a dominant TFC clan and we had a reunion match for a laugh.  Most of us hadn't played TFC in a good 1-2 years.  We played some middling top league team (for their league position, it was the sort of team we would've dominated about 150-0 when we were active) and were lucky to draw with them.  They had a few new tactics we hadn't seen before (despite us thinking nothing would've changed), some new tricks and the skill level was generally higher than it used to be for a team at that level.

Given a few weeks to get back up to speed I think we'd have won, but the average skill level amongst the top players was higher than it used to be when we were active.  It's only natural that as strategies, tactics and tricks become widespread, everyone learns them more readily.  Of course if our clan had continued for those ~2 years we would've been better than them, but the point is that we didn't continue, and the world doesn't stand still when you decide to stop.

Last edited by Arnie_Ze_Austrian (2009-01-04 02:09:21)

0akleaves
Member
+183|6803|Newcastle UK
1.03 - 1.12 was amazing
You have to learn the rules of the game and then you have to play better than anyone else.
Varegg
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+2,206|7000|Nårvei

Capping flags with a full skycow was fun ...
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Oisín | Irishpride
Banned
+118|5784|Dublin, Ireland

Arnie_Ze_Austrian wrote:

This is when the best players played, the game required the most skill and 90% of 'good' players now are only good because all the high skillerz have already left for greener pastures
The notion that players back in the old days had more skill is generally bullshit.  I see people claiming this in near enough every game I've played.  In reality, the skill level gradually increases across the board.  If you transported the current best back 2 years, they'd have 2 more years of playing experience over whoever was playing at that point.  If you learn new tricks and keep improving (even slightly) for a few years, you will be better than you used to be.  People don't magically become worse at a game just because they didn't play it during its 'prime'.

To illustrate this point:

I used to play in a dominant TFC clan and we had a reunion match for a laugh.  Most of us hadn't played TFC in a good 1-2 years.  We played some middling top league team (for their league position, it was the sort of team we would've dominated about 150-0 when we were active) and were lucky to draw with them.  They had a few new tactics we hadn't seen before (despite us thinking nothing would've changed), some new tricks and the skill level was generally higher than it used to be for a team at that level.

Given a few weeks to get back up to speed I think we'd have won, but the average skill level amongst the top players was higher than it used to be when we were active.  It's only natural that as strategies, tactics and tricks become widespread, everyone learns them more readily.  Of course if our clan had continued for those ~2 years we would've been better than them, but the point is that we didn't continue, and the world doesn't stand still when you decide to stop.
I understand your point but I do find that some of the older players seem talented more than skill gained over years of practice. For example, a few weeks back I was playing in some pubnub UK inf server and this guy came in, his aim was so ace that I immediately thought cheat and I'm normally the last person to point the finger however his movement was too good for the average hax0r.

I thought he must be fakenicking one of the top players at the moment - my first thought was that it was Hawk from Team Coolermaster with his aimbot which he had purchased recently, that would explain his great movement. When I asked him what his 'realnick' is he replied "this is my realnick" - so I continued chatting to him over VOIP, he had been in Immortal, or nowadays called Team Coolermaster, which would explain his 1337 antics.

So, tbh, the legends > us.

Last edited by Oisín | Irishpride (2009-01-04 06:37:34)

Longbow
Member
+163|6836|Odessa, Ukraine

0akleaves wrote:

1.03 - 1.12 was amazing
true, those 3 months were epic...
iMPaCT.uK
Member
+72|6686|UK , Birmingham
the times when u could move with no restrictions/delays was when it was skilled

Last edited by iMPaCT.uK (2009-01-04 07:17:09)

Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6476|eng
lnorv best bf2 player ever kk
#rekt
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6658
lolskill.
blah
macaroni with cheeseeee
+111|5937|Croatia
Oh and I forgot about squad jumping,that was fun

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