you still have no idea how to plan a military style operation do you? the detailed prep as you call it was done years in advance. when they arrived in the US, they were carrying out the plan. good grief. seriously man. you are getting worse than rammunition.Dilbert_X wrote:
Didn't say ALL the preparations happened in seven months. The detailed preparations, arrival of the bulk of the team, recces etc did happen.
Clinton didn't get the specific warnings on the detail of the attack so wouldn't have been in a position to do much.
Bush did however.
Still, since everything which happened under Bush is the fault of either Clinton, Reagan or Carter I guess Obama gets a free ride for the next eight years. KTHX
Duhbya was warned, he could have made some effort to thwart the plan, he didn't, the rest is history.
Hopefully Obama will do better, if he doesn't its Bush's fault
Hopefully Obama will do better, if he doesn't its Bush's fault
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warned yes. but, you have to understand the mentality. from what i know, we got threats like every day back then. also back then, hijacking was really no big deal for the most part in the US.Dilbert_X wrote:
Duhbya was warned, he could have made some effort to thwart the plan, he didn't, the rest is history.
Hopefully Obama will do better, if he doesn't its Bush's fault
Please point to an AQ hijacking in the US which was no big deal.
Please point to any AQ operation anywhere in the world which was no big deal, come to think of it.
AQ are a bit different to your average kid who got hooked on Flight Sim.
Please point to any AQ operation anywhere in the world which was no big deal, come to think of it.
AQ are a bit different to your average kid who got hooked on Flight Sim.
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an AQ threat of a hijacking was prolly no huge concern back then. point to me where it happened before? i am sure most efforts were based on a ground attack of sort like what happened in 93. hell the prolly thought this was an intentional distraction or something.Dilbert_X wrote:
Please point to an AQ hijacking in the US which was no big deal.
Please point to any AQ operation anywhere in the world which was no big deal, come to think of it.
AQ are a bit different to your average kid who got hooked on Flight Sim.
Um, if you are going to jijack a plane, as you were, a big fucking plane and navigate it across two states into the world trade center then I would subscribe to the notion that a degree of training was involved. Training that took resources, money and more time than seven months. Those would be detailed preparations. The flying part.Dilbert_X wrote:
Didn't say ALL the preparations happened in seven months. The detailed preparations, arrival of the bulk of the team, recces etc did happen.
What was the big hole in the side of the USS Cole? Not specific enough?Dilbert_X wrote:
Clinton didn't get the specific warnings on the detail of the attack so wouldn't have been in a position to do much.
Bush did however.
Exactly what I was thinking. Seeing how you and your kind fail to acknowledge that a lot of the problems Bush inherited were from Clinton, I am interested to see how you pass the buck when Obama catches heat. Perhaps if Bill spent more time worrying about national security rather than a impeachment hearing some of the events would never have transpired.Dilbert_X wrote:
Still, since everything which happened under Bush is the fault of either Clinton, Reagan or Carter I guess Obama gets a free ride for the next eight years. KTHX
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Its a lot less specific than 'Al Qaeda determined to attack inside US, probably hijacking aircraft, probably attacking a major target such as the WTC'DeezNutz wrote:
What was the big hole in the side of the USS Cole? Not specific enough?
He did try, but his actions against AQ were dismissed by the Republicans as cynical attempts to distract attention from Blowjobgate rather than steps to protect US security. Maybe the Republicans should have kept their eye on protecting their country.DeezNutz wrote:
Perhaps if Bill spent more time worrying about national security rather than a impeachment hearing some of the events would never have transpired.
Please provide some backup to your conjecture.USMarine wrote:
hell the prolly thought this was an intentional distraction or something.
Funny that you think your govt would have assumed its a smokescreen without any evidence.
'AQ determined to attack' 'Its probably a ruse to cover their real plan, which we're not going to worry about either - anyone for golf?'
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And when Bush caught flak from the Dems he told them to pound sand, I'm going forth anyways. So pretty much he had more balls but got the unfavorable end of the public spectrum. Not saying Bush is great but at least he stood behind his convictions, wrong or not.Dilbert_X wrote:
He did try, but his actions against AQ were dismissed by the Republicans as cynical attempts to distract attention from Blowjobgate rather than steps to protect US security. Maybe the Republicans should have kept their eye on protecting their country.
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So did Clinton, when he was being distracted (through his own mistake) he stuck to his objectives.
Clinton was right, Bush wasn't though, telling people to 'pound sand' when you're in the wrong just makes you look a jerk.
Bush didn't even manage to bone some intern in the oval office either.
(Thankyou Bill, for raising the bar for all of us)
Clinton was right, Bush wasn't though, telling people to 'pound sand' when you're in the wrong just makes you look a jerk.
Bush didn't even manage to bone some intern in the oval office either.
(Thankyou Bill, for raising the bar for all of us)
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Which lets be honest, wasn't a lot.Lotta_Drool wrote:
The Democraps voted for the war knowing everything bush knew,
Honestly, how can a guy that dumb become the "leader of the free world" x 2
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Dunno, the US voted for him TWICE, incredible.
Guess they got what they deserved TBH, even a black(ish) man could beat the Republicons after Bush's epic tenure.
Guess they got what they deserved TBH, even a black(ish) man could beat the Republicons after Bush's epic tenure.
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Yup, they did... allways have been glad I am from Europe and not AmericaDilbert_X wrote:
Dunno, the US voted for him TWICE, incredible.
Guess they got what they deserved TBH
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
I'm just glad I didn't have to go through the brainwashing they call an education over there.
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Heard... seeing documentaries/movies/anything about going to school over there gives me the creeps sometimes...Dilbert_X wrote:
I'm just glad I didn't have to go through the brainwashing they call an education over there.
An example of brainwashing could be that silver ring thing they have going, man that is brainwashing at it's best... I'm not saying it is stupid to save yourself for the right person.. but the way you/they do it in the US is just sick..
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What? If you are implicating sex before marriage then you just completly discredited your malcontent for the US. And you are fucking retarded. Ram, is this your alter username?FloppY_ wrote:
An example of brainwashing could be that silver ring thing they have going, man that is brainwashing at it's best... I'm not saying it is stupid to save yourself for the right person..
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WTF? I still can't believe you wrote that. It's bugging me, a lot. Save yourself? lol. Go stick your cack in a danish.
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What are you talking about ? -.- I just used the word the brainwashers use for context related reasonsdeeznutz1245 wrote:
WTF? I still can't believe you wrote that. It's bugging me, a lot. Save yourself? lol. Go stick your cack in a danish.
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Read what you wrote you idiot. I quoted it for you. Next, explain yourself. Seriosly, explain what it was that you meant back there. It's how debate works. See, you said we are brainwashed, then you gave an example of why. An example so insane that even DilbertX is staying clear of you for that one. Elaborate. Enlighten me, please.FloppY_ wrote:
What are you talking about ? -.- I just used the word the brainwashers use for context related reasonsdeeznutz1245 wrote:
WTF? I still can't believe you wrote that. It's bugging me, a lot. Save yourself? lol. Go stick your cack in a danish.
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funny you are doing the same thing. you dont know what the CIA and his advisors really said either do you?Dilbert_X wrote:
Funny that you think your govt would have assumed its a smokescreen without any evidence.
denmark lolFloppY_ wrote:
Yup, they did... allways have been glad I am from Europe and not AmericaDilbert_X wrote:
Dunno, the US voted for him TWICE, incredible.
Guess they got what they deserved TBH
You're making the argument, its up to you to back it up.usmarine wrote:
funny you are doing the same thing. you dont know what the CIA and his advisors really said either do you?
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there is no link to back that up, thats just a theory. obviously al-q wasnt that big a deal right? or clinton would have hit them yes? no link for that either since he didnt do it.Dilbert_X wrote:
You're making the argument, its up to you to back it up.usmarine wrote:
funny you are doing the same thing. you dont know what the CIA and his advisors really said either do you?
And I'm accused of putting up unsubstantiated tin-foil hat theories
AQ were a big enough deal for Clinton to hit them, but not big enough for Bush to worry about them hijacking aircraft, interesting.
IF OBAMA HAD BEEN IN CHARGE 9/11 WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED
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AQ were a big enough deal for Clinton to hit them, but not big enough for Bush to worry about them hijacking aircraft, interesting.
IF OBAMA HAD BEEN IN CHARGE 9/11 WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED
This should be fun
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Haven't you said in the past that Clinton had Osama cornered but let him go on a few occasions, or is this when he wasn't part of AQ? lolusmarine wrote:
obviously al-q wasnt that big a deal right? or clinton would have hit them yes?
Clinton did carry out airstrikes on AQ compounds, and IIRC tried to kill Bin Laden specifically.
Bush liked golf, there you go.
Bush liked golf, there you go.
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