Hamas killed some of their own civilians the other day when one of their rockets fell short onto a house.Kmarion wrote:
And that's coming from Hamas! Who was the one saying that they were almost all civilians killed?CIVILIANS
Hamas estimated that at least 15 women and some children had been killed in the past two days
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ … 28?sp=true
FixedM.O.A.B wrote:
Hamas killed some of their own civilians human shields the other day when one of their rockets fell short onto a house.Kmarion wrote:
And that's coming from Hamas! Who was the one saying that they were almost all civilians killed?CIVILIANS
Hamas estimated that at least 15 women and some children had been killed in the past two days
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ … 28?sp=true
that would be .sup and others ofc.Kmarion wrote:
And that's coming from Hamas! Who was the one saying that they were almost all civilians killed?CIVILIANS
Hamas estimated that at least 15 women and some children had been killed in the past two days
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ … 28?sp=true
Lets hope this galvanises the Arab/Persian world to help the Palestinians negotiate from a position of strength and finally solve the Israel-Palestine issue.
I recommend turning off the oil.
I recommend turning off the oil.
Fuck Israel
Because all men are militants.Kmarion wrote:
And that's coming from Hamas! Who was the one saying that they were almost all civilians killed?CIVILIANS
Hamas estimated that at least 15 women and some children had been killed in the past two days
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ … 28?sp=true
I don't see how killing Palestinian Police Officers is going to solve the problem.
Fuck Israel
The majority certainly seem to be.sergeriver wrote:
Because all men are militants.Kmarion wrote:
And that's coming from Hamas! Who was the one saying that they were almost all civilians killed?CIVILIANS
Hamas estimated that at least 15 women and some children had been killed in the past two days
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ … 28?sp=true
"Hamas said 180 of its members were killed and the rest included civilians, among them 16 women and some children."
That's assuming that Hamas is being 100 percent truthful.
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Well, that's a number. If they say Israel killed 180 of their militants, then I must concede the attacks were pretty effective, despite the collateral.Kmarion wrote:
The majority certainly seem to be.sergeriver wrote:
Because all men are militants.Kmarion wrote:
And that's coming from Hamas! Who was the one saying that they were almost all civilians killed?
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ … 28?sp=true
"Hamas said 180 of its members were killed and the rest included civilians, among them 16 women and some children."
That's assuming that Hamas is being 100 percent truthful.
ya right. if they wanted to really help they would help the pals rid themselves of hamas. but oh no, lets just sit back and cry like they are. retards.Dilbert_X wrote:
Lets hope this galvanises the Arab/Persian world to help the Palestinians negotiate from a position of strength and finally solve the Israel-Palestine issue.
I recommend turning off the oil.
There is no getting rid of Hamas, they are the demcratically elected government of Palestine.
Fuck Israel
well it did for the moment at least....Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't see how killing Palestinian Police Officers is going to solve the problem.
"Hamas' ability to fire rockets had been reduced by 50 percent. Indeed, Hamas rockets fire dropped off sharply, from more than 130 on Saturday to just over 20 on Sunday."
(closed the site before i copied the link...think it was AP)
you say that as if those were not morality issues until they came from the burning bush. You say that as if a cheating spouse was not a problem for anyone until it was written in stone, or stealing from a merchant was not a crime before Moses said so..Sup wrote:
Nothing? 10 divine commandmentslowing wrote:
morality and a sense of order, right and wrong have nothing to do with religion.Sup wrote:
We are still alive aren't we? Without religion this world might not exist anymore. Without religion>no moral principles>nothing to stop us from destroying ourselves
Obviously words of someone who hasn't been in Church yet
This, and the word "excuse" comes to mind.lowing wrote:
you say that as if those were not morality issues until they came from the burning bush. You say that as if a cheating spouse was not a problem for anyone until it was written in stone, or stealing from a merchant was not a crime before Moses said so..Sup wrote:
Nothing? 10 divine commandmentslowing wrote:
morality and a sense of order, right and wrong have nothing to do with religion
Obviously words of someone who hasn't been in Church yet
@Dilbert: You throw away some of your legitimacy when you start bombarding neighbouring states with rockets and mortars.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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~ Richard Feynman
this, sad but true.CameronPoe wrote:
To be fair this is a pretty legitimate military response to a barrage of rockets following a ceasefire Hamas wouldn't extend.
The rest of this thread is all emotion from armchair activists.
This is all just the same bullshit and noise that's been coming from Israel and the Palestinians for years.
There is not going to be a significant change in the Israel/Palestine situation until there is a fundamental shift in who's-who/what's-what in that area.
Call me when this sideshow starts playing in Saudi Arabia. Then we know things are going to start getting serious.
There is not going to be a significant change in the Israel/Palestine situation until there is a fundamental shift in who's-who/what's-what in that area.
Call me when this sideshow starts playing in Saudi Arabia. Then we know things are going to start getting serious.
Would anyone care if the 140+ people killed were zombies?
what did the palestinians think would happen when they ramped up their random missile attacks... ding ding ding... retaliation... I don't have much hope for that part of the world... everything is clouded with so much anger...
Love is the answer
There is anger, but the missile attacks were cold calculation.[TUF]Catbox wrote:
what did the palestinians think would happen when they ramped up their random missile attacks... ding ding ding... retaliation... I don't have much hope for that part of the world... everything is clouded with so much anger...
When even the typically anti-Zionist people such as CamPoe/Serge admit that Israel responded appropriately and have been pretty effective in doing so, you know people like .Sup are just shooting blanks when it comes to arguing here.usmarine wrote:
that would be .sup and others ofc.Kmarion wrote:
And that's coming from Hamas! Who was the one saying that they were almost all civilians killed?CIVILIANS
Hamas estimated that at least 15 women and some children had been killed in the past two days
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ … 28?sp=true
As we've come to expect from him.
Since when was Serge an anti-Zionist?
And tbh ... discuss the topic and/or comments and not the commentees ...
And tbh ... discuss the topic and/or comments and not the commentees ...
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Use your PS3, last time online Alexander the Great was alive.jsnipy wrote:
this, sad but true.CameronPoe wrote:
To be fair this is a pretty legitimate military response to a barrage of rockets following a ceasefire Hamas wouldn't extend.
The rest of this thread is all emotion from armchair activists.
that's very very true.Poseidon wrote:
When even the typically anti-Zionist people such as CamPoe/Serge admit that Israel responded appropriately and have been pretty effective in doing so, you know people like .Sup are just shooting blanks when it comes to arguing here.usmarine wrote:
that would be .sup and others ofc.Kmarion wrote:
And that's coming from Hamas! Who was the one saying that they were almost all civilians killed?
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ … 28?sp=true
As we've come to expect from him.
Op'ed
The Red Cross complained that Israel had slowed transit of their aid and medical supplies during an interview with the BBC. Their spokesperson claims that the IDF allowed as much through the Kerem Shalom crossing as the Red Cross requested, and would have allowed more if the Red Cross had asked for more. The IDF obviously has a heightened sense of media play and wants to head off any suggestion that they are attacking Gazans in general rather than Hamas specifically. The videos are intended to underscore that message.
Israel sends humanitarian aid to Gaza 28.12
Perhaps they shouldn’t have worried. The BBC report seems balanced, noting prominently Israel’s stated objectives against Hamas and taking care to differentiate the targets of Israel’s air raids:
Israeli air raids have pounded the Gaza Strip for a third day, hitting key sites linked to militant group Hamas.
Gaza’s interior ministry and Islamic University were the latest targets.
Hamas says 312 Palestinians have died since Saturday, of which the UN says 57 were civilians. In Israel, a second person was killed by a militant rocket.
Defence Minister Ehud Barak said Israel was not fighting the people of Gaza but was in “a war to the bitter end” with Hamas, which has ruled Gaza since 2007.
The BBC also reported on Israel’s call-up of reservists without hysteria, noting that the 6500 mobilized would not be enough to reoccupy Gaza. So far, the IDF seems to have something it rarely receives: a decent shake from the global media.
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It would appear that Israel has used the lull in activity to refine their intelligence, allowing for lower collateral damage than in past engagements. Yet still the world is decrying Israel's response to Hamas' blatant flaunting of a ceasefire that Israel adhered to.
The ONLY legitimate argument against Israeli action at this point is proportionality.
The ONLY legitimate argument against Israeli action at this point is proportionality.
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Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Downing Street Calls For End To Gaza Violence
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