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2008-12-18 03:02:24
Varegg
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LividBovine wrote:

But why do they feel they need their own browser, or anything targeted at blacks?  The real point here is the double standard being applied.
Maybe because African American interests gets lost in the 10 million returns you get in a search, i don't care if they need it or get it or whatever, double standards is a huge part of the western society so why complain about a browser that isn't for African Americans but rather if you are interested in African American issues ...

It's in no way racist seeing as it doesn't block out any groups does it? ... anyone can use it thus making the racist angle a very poor argument ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
2008-12-18 03:20:14
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6926|USA
Yet again no one will answer the question at hand.

Can a "WHITE BROWSER" exist?

Can a WHITE COLLEGE FUND exist

CAN A WHITE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT exist

CAN A WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV CHANNEL exist.

etc........... ALL without being condemned as racist?  Now how about one you politicians stop playing PC and answer the question? Oh and try to be honest about it.
2008-12-18 03:42:48
Varegg
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lowing wrote:

Yet again no one will answer the question at hand.

Can a "WHITE BROWSER" exist?

Can a WHITE COLLEGE FUND exist

CAN A WHITE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT exist

CAN A WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV CHANNEL exist.

etc........... ALL without being condemned as racist?  Now how about one you politicians stop playing PC and answer the question? Oh and try to be honest about it.
I don't care tbh ... it's such a non issue for me if African Americans have their own what ever they wan't ...

And lowing ... can you comprehend why they might need such arrangements? ... maybe because the "normal" college funds are run by whites that often dismiss black applicants just to name one example so they fund their own "American dream" seeing as they don't have equal oppurtunities ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
2008-12-18 04:07:52
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6926|USA

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Yet again no one will answer the question at hand.

Can a "WHITE BROWSER" exist?

Can a WHITE COLLEGE FUND exist

CAN A WHITE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT exist

CAN A WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV CHANNEL exist.

etc........... ALL without being condemned as racist?  Now how about one you politicians stop playing PC and answer the question? Oh and try to be honest about it.
I don't care tbh ... it's such a non issue for me if African Americans have their own what ever they wan't ...

And lowing ... can you comprehend why they might need such arrangements? ... maybe because the "normal" college funds are run by whites that often dismiss black applicants just to name one example so they fund their own "American dream" seeing as they don't have equal oppurtunities ...
Ya just can't bring yourself to agree can you? I know you well enough to know on here, that if you believed the answer to that question would favor your argument, you would be all over it. As it is your honest answer would prop up my argument so you will stick with, "I don't care". Oh well post back when you can answer my question honestly, then I will be more than happy to entertain yours.


Ya see, I don't care either. A black web browser or black anything else is not the issue. THe issue and question is: Can whites get away with things like this without being labeled racist and condemned?

Would you  ( society) be just as "uncaring"vand "unopinionated" if these were white programs we were talking about? Now once and for all just answer the question.

Last edited by lowing (2008-12-18 04:21:11)

2008-12-18 04:21:20
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7040|Cambridge (UK)

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Yet again no one will answer the question at hand.

Can a "WHITE BROWSER" exist?

Can a WHITE COLLEGE FUND exist

CAN A WHITE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT exist

CAN A WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV CHANNEL exist.

etc........... ALL without being condemned as racist?  Now how about one you politicians stop playing PC and answer the question? Oh and try to be honest about it.
I don't care tbh ... it's such a non issue for me if African Americans have their own what ever they wan't ...

And lowing ... can you comprehend why they might need such arrangements? ... maybe because the "normal" college funds are run by whites that often dismiss black applicants just to name one example so they fund their own "American dream" seeing as they don't have equal oppurtunities ...
Ya just can't bring yourself to agree can you? I know you well enough to know on here, that if you believed the answer to that question would favor your argument, you would be all over it. As it is your honest answer would prop up my argument so you will stick with, "I don't care". Oh well post back when you can answer my question honestly, then I will be more than happy to entertain yours.
Even if we assume that, like blackbird, this hypothetical 'white browser' did not promote any kind of anti-black message, we just can't answer your question, lowing.

No-one can.

We can only say how we as individuals would feel about those hypothetical things existing.
2008-12-18 04:37:49
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6926|USA

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:


I don't care tbh ... it's such a non issue for me if African Americans have their own what ever they wan't ...

And lowing ... can you comprehend why they might need such arrangements? ... maybe because the "normal" college funds are run by whites that often dismiss black applicants just to name one example so they fund their own "American dream" seeing as they don't have equal oppurtunities ...
Ya just can't bring yourself to agree can you? I know you well enough to know on here, that if you believed the answer to that question would favor your argument, you would be all over it. As it is your honest answer would prop up my argument so you will stick with, "I don't care". Oh well post back when you can answer my question honestly, then I will be more than happy to entertain yours.
Even if we assume that, like blackbird, this hypothetical 'white browser' did not promote any kind of anti-black message, we just can't answer your question, lowing.

No-one can.

We can only say how we as individuals would feel about those hypothetical things existing.
Bullshit, we all have opinions about everything under the sun on this forum and oyu are telling me that my question is unanswerable?? Nope the problem is, you know what the answer is, and it would force you to agree with me, and no one is having any of that!
2008-12-18 04:46:59
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7040|Cambridge (UK)

lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:


Ya just can't bring yourself to agree can you? I know you well enough to know on here, that if you believed the answer to that question would favor your argument, you would be all over it. As it is your honest answer would prop up my argument so you will stick with, "I don't care". Oh well post back when you can answer my question honestly, then I will be more than happy to entertain yours.
Even if we assume that, like blackbird, this hypothetical 'white browser' did not promote any kind of anti-black message, we just can't answer your question, lowing.

No-one can.

We can only say how we as individuals would feel about those hypothetical things existing.
Bullshit, we all have opinions about everything under the sun on this forum and oyu are telling me that my question is unanswerable?? Nope the problem is, you know what the answer is, and it would force you to agree with me, and no one is having any of that!
You just said you're not happy with just our opinion and want to know how the whole of society would react.

That question is unanswerable.
2008-12-18 04:48:22
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
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lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ya just can't bring yourself to agree can you? I know you well enough to know on here, that if you believed the answer to that question would favor your argument, you would be all over it. As it is your honest answer would prop up my argument so you will stick with, "I don't care". Oh well post back when you can answer my question honestly, then I will be more than happy to entertain yours.
Even if we assume that, like blackbird, this hypothetical 'white browser' did not promote any kind of anti-black message, we just can't answer your question, lowing.

No-one can.

We can only say how we as individuals would feel about those hypothetical things existing.
Bullshit, we all have opinions about everything under the sun on this forum and oyu are telling me that my question is unanswerable?? Nope the problem is, you know what the answer is, and it would force you to agree with me, and no one is having any of that!
For me a it's not an issue lowing, if i however had been part of a minority lets say Irish or African American i would have welcomed a browser that catered to my Irish or African heritage ... i would not mind or oppose a browser catering the need of whites only ...

So to all your questions: I don't care, and i don't care because it's not an issue ... i don't need a white only browser, i don't watch beaty pageants, i have never applied for a college fund and i mostly watch movies ... so to sum it up honestly ... i don't care to have an opinion on issues that are so hypothetical like the questions you asked when there are way more important issues that needs discussing ...

And i have agreed with you on a few issues before
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
2008-12-18 05:00:28
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6565|Éire
Look lowing, it's like this... society dictates what becomes acceptable.

What's happened in America is there has been an African American backlash in the wake of slavery which is still being felt today. This is seen in the form of affirmative action, black history month, grant systems for minority communities and negrocentric cultural movements. American society has allowed this to become 'acceptable' and it's possibly out of a tacit sense of collective shame for the sins of the past (similar to Germany and the Jewish community... you won't hear Germany overly criticizing Israel anytime soon). Most of these forms of tacit racism are not the result of Government edicts, they are the work of individuals who have the right to free speech. There was a time when it was acceptable in America to put a white conical hat on your head and burn crucifixes into people's lawns but times change, my bet is that the voice of black American culture will ultimately go the same way as that of the KKK but it will only be through societal consensus. Look at it this way lowing, at least you are standing up to the double standards... in time I'm sure many more will follow.

All these forms of 'acceptable' and 'unacceptable' racism are determined by society itself... this does not in any way validate these forms of racism, I'm just pointing out that they are not coming from any kind of 'central command' that decides such matters. You complaining about these double standards being 'allowed' to hold sway in society is no different to an African American complaining about 'the man' keeping him down... which man for fuck's sake?

The same could be said about how it was socially acceptable to be 'wary' of Jews in the 1940's or 'wary' of Muslims in the present day. The Government rarely decides such thing, society does (though Governments can assist in this regard).
2008-12-18 05:10:36
SharkyMcshark
I'll take two
+132|7060|Perth, Western Australia

lowing wrote:

Wait a sec. That is exactly what I am pointing out. I have no problem with anyone "identifying with a culture of their own". I simply am pointing out that it is racist when white people do it and not acceptable.
Or do you deny that double standard?
'white' isn't a culture. In fairness 'black' in and of itself isn't a culture. What is in focus here is African American culture, which mostly due to various media outlets influencing the common lexicon over the last century have come to be known as generically 'black'.
2008-12-18 05:20:22
JahManRed
wank
+646|6902|IRELAND

lowing wrote:

Yet again no one will answer the question at hand.

Can a "WHITE BROWSER" exist?

Can a WHITE COLLEGE FUND exist

CAN A WHITE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT exist

CAN A WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV CHANNEL exist.

etc........... ALL without being condemned as racist?  Now how about one you politicians stop playing PC and answer the question? Oh and try to be honest about it.
Its not because they are Black. Its because they are a minority. Most things entertainment wise are aimed at the majority audience. Therefore they don't always cater for the minorities needs. Here in Northern Ireland we have Irish language & Ulster Scott's programmes on BBC Radio and TV. My licence fee pays for them and I don't speak either. They cater for the 2% of the population who speak it. Id don't want to watch programmes about the Irish language or about the Ulster Scott's tradition. Same way you don't want to watch "Fela Kuti, the founder of Afro Beat" either. So these minority services keep the minorities happy without encroaching on the majorities time............

Last edited by JahManRed (2008-12-18 05:21:28)

2008-12-18 05:21:34
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6926|USA

Braddock wrote:

Look lowing, it's like this... society dictates what becomes acceptable.

What's happened in America is there has been an African American backlash in the wake of slavery which is still being felt today. This is seen in the form of affirmative action, black history month, grant systems for minority communities and negrocentric cultural movements. American society has allowed this to become 'acceptable' and it's possibly out of a tacit sense of collective shame for the sins of the past (similar to Germany and the Jewish community... you won't hear Germany overly criticizing Israel anytime soon). Most of these forms of tacit racism are not the result of Government edicts, they are the work of individuals who have the right to free speech. There was a time when it was acceptable in America to put a white conical hat on your head and burn crucifixes into people's lawns but times change, my bet is that the voice of black American culture will ultimately go the same way as that of the KKK but it will only be through societal consensus. Look at it this way lowing, at least you are standing up to the double standards... in time I'm sure many more will follow.

All these forms of 'acceptable' and 'unacceptable' racism are determined by society itself... this does not in any way validate these forms of racism, I'm just pointing out that they are not coming from any kind of 'central command' that decides such matters. You complaining about these double standards being 'allowed' to hold sway in society is no different to an African American complaining about 'the man' keeping him down... which man for fuck's sake?

The same could be said about how it was socially acceptable to be 'wary' of Jews in the 1940's or 'wary' of Muslims in the present day. The Government rarely decides such thing, society does (though Governments can assist in this regard).
Great post, and I can agree, so now how about answering the question that I posed earlier?
2008-12-18 05:24:08
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6926|USA

SharkyMcshark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Wait a sec. That is exactly what I am pointing out. I have no problem with anyone "identifying with a culture of their own". I simply am pointing out that it is racist when white people do it and not acceptable.
Or do you deny that double standard?
'white' isn't a culture. In fairness 'black' in and of itself isn't a culture. What is in focus here is African American culture, which mostly due to various media outlets influencing the common lexicon over the last century have come to be known as generically 'black'.
Only people that lived in Africa and now live in the US can be called African American ( for whatever reason they would want to)

My ancestors are from Europe, I am not English American or Irish American or Polish American, I am an American and so are all the blacks in America who have never set foot nor have any ties to Africa
2008-12-18 05:28:17
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6926|USA

JahManRed wrote:

lowing wrote:

Yet again no one will answer the question at hand.

Can a "WHITE BROWSER" exist?

Can a WHITE COLLEGE FUND exist

CAN A WHITE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT exist

CAN A WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV CHANNEL exist.

etc........... ALL without being condemned as racist?  Now how about one you politicians stop playing PC and answer the question? Oh and try to be honest about it.
Its not because they are Black. Its because they are a minority. Most things entertainment wise are aimed at the majority audience. Therefore they don't always cater for the minorities needs. Here in Northern Ireland we have Irish language & Ulster Scott's programmes on BBC Radio and TV. My licence fee pays for them and I don't speak either. They cater for the 2% of the population who speak it. Id don't want to watch programmes about the Irish language or about the Ulster Scott's tradition. Same way you don't want to watch "Fela Kuti, the founder of Afro Beat" either. So these minority services keep the minorities happy without encroaching on the majorities time............
Nope, there are no programs targeting whites. ALL programs are interacial, ALL magazines are interacial. All that is, except for the aformentioned "black" examples


How about you, are you gunna answer the question that was posed in the post you quoted or not?
2008-12-18 05:33:00
SharkyMcshark
I'll take two
+132|7060|Perth, Western Australia

lowing wrote:

SharkyMcshark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Wait a sec. That is exactly what I am pointing out. I have no problem with anyone "identifying with a culture of their own". I simply am pointing out that it is racist when white people do it and not acceptable.
Or do you deny that double standard?
'white' isn't a culture. In fairness 'black' in and of itself isn't a culture. What is in focus here is African American culture, which mostly due to various media outlets influencing the common lexicon over the last century have come to be known as generically 'black'.
Only people that lived in Africa and now live in the US can be called African American ( for whatever reason they would want to)

My ancestors are from Europe, I am not English American or Irish American or Polish American, I am an American and so are all the blacks in America who have never set foot nor have any ties to Africa
Well then your problem is semantic isn't it? 'African American' is the term given to black residents of the US who have ancestry that can be traced to African countries, although in fairness it's really evolved more into a catch all term for people with black skin.

And it's funny that you should object to 'African American' (in honesty I always got told to just call all you guys 'American', but if I had to describe a black person use 'black American') when so many of your fellow countrymen take pride in their heritage as Italian/Asian/Polish/Irish/Latino American. Which we have here as well - I know for a fact that we have Italian clubs, Vietnamese Catholic clubs, Greek Orthodox Church meetings, Portugese clubs, etc etc.

Anyway, we're drifting away from the point. Western countries have Women's interest magazines, Men's magazines, magazines targetted at the elderly, shows targetted at women, television channels for non English speakers (hell my grandparents get RAI - the something Australian Italian channel) - I suppose a web browser targetted at black people was just one division too far for you huh?
2008-12-18 05:33:02
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6926|USA

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:


Even if we assume that, like blackbird, this hypothetical 'white browser' did not promote any kind of anti-black message, we just can't answer your question, lowing.

No-one can.

We can only say how we as individuals would feel about those hypothetical things existing.
Bullshit, we all have opinions about everything under the sun on this forum and oyu are telling me that my question is unanswerable?? Nope the problem is, you know what the answer is, and it would force you to agree with me, and no one is having any of that!
For me a it's not an issue lowing, if i however had been part of a minority lets say Irish or African American i would have welcomed a browser that catered to my Irish or African heritage ... i would not mind or oppose a browser catering the need of whites only ...

So to all your questions: I don't care, and i don't care because it's not an issue ... i don't need a white only browser, i don't watch beaty pageants, i have never applied for a college fund and i mostly watch movies ... so to sum it up honestly ... i don't care to have an opinion on issues that are so hypothetical like the questions you asked when there are way more important issues that needs discussing ...

And i have agreed with you on a few issues before
Look, do you admit that a double standard exists or not? If you care about it or not has never been the question.
2008-12-18 05:37:39
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6926|USA

SharkyMcshark wrote:

lowing wrote:

SharkyMcshark wrote:


'white' isn't a culture. In fairness 'black' in and of itself isn't a culture. What is in focus here is African American culture, which mostly due to various media outlets influencing the common lexicon over the last century have come to be known as generically 'black'.
Only people that lived in Africa and now live in the US can be called African American ( for whatever reason they would want to)

My ancestors are from Europe, I am not English American or Irish American or Polish American, I am an American and so are all the blacks in America who have never set foot nor have any ties to Africa
Well then your problem is semantic isn't it? 'African American' is the term given to black residents of the US who have ancestry that can be traced to African countries, although in fairness it's really evolved more into a catch all term for people with black skin.

And it's funny that you should object to 'African American' (in honesty I always got told to just call all you guys 'American', but if I had to describe a black person use 'black American') when so many of your fellow countrymen take pride in their heritage as Italian/Asian/Polish/Irish/Latino American. Which we have here as well - I know for a fact that we have Italian clubs, Vietnamese Catholic clubs, Greek Orthodox Church meetings, Portugese clubs, etc etc.

Anyway, we're drifting away from the point. Western countries have Women's interest magazines, Men's magazines, magazines targetted at the elderly, shows targetted at women, television channels for non English speakers (hell my grandparents get RAI - the something Australian Italian channel) - I suppose a web browser targetted at black people was just one division too far for you huh?
No it isn't "one division too far for me". My question is simply is a white web browser one divison too far or would it be acceptable like a blac kweb brower?

Is a white college fund one division too far or would it be accepted?

Is a white TV station one divison too far or would it be accepted?

ETC...............Are these things acceptable? How aobut a yes or no. I wanna get to an answer first, before an explaination.
2008-12-18 05:38:45
SharkyMcshark
I'll take two
+132|7060|Perth, Western Australia

lowing wrote:

ALL programs are interacial, ALL magazines are interacial. All that is, except for the aformentioned "black" examples


How about you, are you gunna answer the question that was posed in the post you quoted or not?
lowing that argument falls down on two levels - the first is that it's unquestionable that the majority is white. As such media targetted at the majority will generally be 'white'. Not necessarily by design, but in large part through probability. If a certain minority wants a tool that will effectively bring issues revelant to them, bring to light up and coming stars and media personalities relevant to them, then I don't see the issue. The reason that a 'white' browser or scholarship doesn't exist is because us whites are the majority, there is no need.

Also all programs aren't inter racial, and all magazines aren't interracial. Hence, using personal experience here, not something I'm fond of, my grandparents subscription to RAI (a free to air TV channel) and Liberta (a magazine) that are Italian language but widely available here.

I'm sorry to say it - no I lied, I'm not sorry to say it - but the age of culture specific media was on us long ago lowing.
2008-12-18 05:41:58
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6565|Éire
In response to your question lowing...

lowing wrote:

Yet again no one will answer the question at hand.

Can a "WHITE BROWSER" exist?

Can a WHITE COLLEGE FUND exist

CAN A WHITE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT exist

CAN A WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV CHANNEL exist.

etc........... ALL without being condemned as racist?  Now how about one you politicians stop playing PC and answer the question? Oh and try to be honest about it.
In theory yes, they probably could exist... in reality, no, society would probably not deem them acceptable and it is a double-standard. It's like I said before, it's a backlash from the African-American community; partly out of revenge, partly out of an ongoing need to establish a new sense of identity in a post-slavery world and partly out of good old-fashioned racism. Don't be fooled into thinking it's socially accepted across the board though, I'm sure there are plenty out there who feel the same as you. So long as these things aren't coming direct from the Government itself it remains up to ye as a society to decide what's acceptable.

Last edited by Braddock (2008-12-18 05:42:38)

2008-12-18 05:43:19
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6926|USA

SharkyMcshark wrote:

lowing wrote:

ALL programs are interacial, ALL magazines are interacial. All that is, except for the aformentioned "black" examples


How about you, are you gunna answer the question that was posed in the post you quoted or not?
lowing that argument falls down on two levels - the first is that it's unquestionable that the majority is white. As such media targetted at the majority will generally be 'white'. Not necessarily by design, but in large part through probability. If a certain minority wants a tool that will effectively bring issues revelant to them, bring to light up and coming stars and media personalities relevant to them, then I don't see the issue. The reason that a 'white' browser or scholarship doesn't exist is because us whites are the majority, there is no need.

Also all programs aren't inter racial, and all magazines aren't interracial. Hence, using personal experience here, not something I'm fond of, my grandparents subscription to RAI (a free to air TV channel) and Liberta (a magazine) that are Italian language but widely available here.

I'm sorry to say it - no I lied, I'm not sorry to say it - but the age of culture specific media was on us long ago lowing.
IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO START WHITE GUY MAGAZINE OR NOT

IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO HOLD A WHITE MISS AMERICA PAEGANT OR NOT

IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO FUND A CHARITY FOR WHITES OR NOT?
2008-12-18 05:48:18
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6926|USA

Braddock wrote:

In response to your question lowing...

lowing wrote:

Yet again no one will answer the question at hand.

Can a "WHITE BROWSER" exist?

Can a WHITE COLLEGE FUND exist

CAN A WHITE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT exist

CAN A WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV CHANNEL exist.

etc........... ALL without being condemned as racist?  Now how about one you politicians stop playing PC and answer the question? Oh and try to be honest about it.
In theory yes, they probably could exist... in reality, no, society would probably not deem them acceptable and it is a double-standard. It's like I said before, it's a backlash from the African-American community; partly out of revenge, partly out of an ongoing need to establish a new sense of identity in a post-slavery world and partly out of good old-fashioned racism. Don't be fooled into thinking it's socially accepted across the board though, I'm sure there are plenty out there who feel the same as you. So long as these things aren't coming direct from the Government itself it remains up to ye as a society to decide what's acceptable.
OMG THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! Finally! I also agree with your reasoning as to why it is like this. As long as the black community insists it is different and insists it remains a seporate identity, then it should expect just that without bitching.
2008-12-18 05:53:02
SharkyMcshark
I'll take two
+132|7060|Perth, Western Australia

lowing wrote:

SharkyMcshark wrote:

lowing wrote:

ALL programs are interacial, ALL magazines are interacial. All that is, except for the aformentioned "black" examples


How about you, are you gunna answer the question that was posed in the post you quoted or not?
lowing that argument falls down on two levels - the first is that it's unquestionable that the majority is white. As such media targetted at the majority will generally be 'white'. Not necessarily by design, but in large part through probability. If a certain minority wants a tool that will effectively bring issues revelant to them, bring to light up and coming stars and media personalities relevant to them, then I don't see the issue. The reason that a 'white' browser or scholarship doesn't exist is because us whites are the majority, there is no need.

Also all programs aren't inter racial, and all magazines aren't interracial. Hence, using personal experience here, not something I'm fond of, my grandparents subscription to RAI (a free to air TV channel) and Liberta (a magazine) that are Italian language but widely available here.

I'm sorry to say it - no I lied, I'm not sorry to say it - but the age of culture specific media was on us long ago lowing.
IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO START WHITE GUY MAGAZINE OR NOT

IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO HOLD A WHITE MISS AMERICA PAEGANT OR NOT

IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO FUND A CHARITY FOR WHITES OR NOT?
Stupid questions. Whites are a majority in society and as such they are statistically more likely to benefit from charities, or or have content aimedd at them by magazines.

It's a stupid question that doesn't take into account the funadmental difference between being in the majority in society and in a minority:

Us whites are the majority. To exclude races who are in the vast majority is a completely different concept to a culture wanting to highlight some of their own achievements, or have a charity targetted at them.

While generally, yes X only charities and scholarships are racist, you have to understand the fundamental difference between someone from a group in the majority seeking to eliminate marginalised cultures, and someone from a marginalised culture seeking to promote their own interests/have a charity/whatever.
2008-12-18 05:55:57
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6565|Éire

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

In response to your question lowing...

lowing wrote:

Yet again no one will answer the question at hand.

Can a "WHITE BROWSER" exist?

Can a WHITE COLLEGE FUND exist

CAN A WHITE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT exist

CAN A WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV CHANNEL exist.

etc........... ALL without being condemned as racist?  Now how about one you politicians stop playing PC and answer the question? Oh and try to be honest about it.
In theory yes, they probably could exist... in reality, no, society would probably not deem them acceptable and it is a double-standard. It's like I said before, it's a backlash from the African-American community; partly out of revenge, partly out of an ongoing need to establish a new sense of identity in a post-slavery world and partly out of good old-fashioned racism. Don't be fooled into thinking it's socially accepted across the board though, I'm sure there are plenty out there who feel the same as you. So long as these things aren't coming direct from the Government itself it remains up to ye as a society to decide what's acceptable.
OMG THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! Finally! I also agree with your reasoning as to why it is like this. As long as the black community insists it is different and insists it remains a seporate identity, then it should expect just that without bitching.
I don't like to be inconsistent in my arguments so I have no problem admitting that I agree with you that there are forms of reverse racism out there. I do think you make more out of some issues than they deserve but nevertheless there are issues there. My belief, and my hope, is that their racially separatist opinions will balance out and integrate with the wider social spectrum over time... Obama's election may help immensely in this regard (can't really complain when 'the man' is half black himself!).
2008-12-18 06:05:29
Varegg
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Double standards excist lowing and in many more ways than your example ...

I agree with Braddock which i basicly stated with other words a few posts higher up ... it could excist hypothetically but not in reality based on the majority/minority reason ...

But again you ask questions that really don't need an answer seeing as there is no need ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
2008-12-18 06:23:30
lowing
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Varegg wrote:

Double standards excist lowing and in many more ways than your example ...

I agree with Braddock which i basicly stated with other words a few posts higher up ... it could excist hypothetically but not in reality based on the majority/minority reason ...

But again you ask questions that really don't need an answer seeing as there is no need ...
In fairness you said everything EXCEPT answer the question directly. Instead you focus on how little you care or how little any else should care. None of which answered the question.You then moved on to explainations for attitudes yet still did not answer the basic question. Like a true politician.

 

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