AussieReaper
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24 … 77,00.html

CARTOON characters are people too, a judge has ruled in the case of a man convicted over cartoons based on The Simpsons, in which children are shown having sex.

In the New South Wales Supreme Court today, Justice Michael Adams ruled that a fictional cartoon character was a "person" within the meaning of the relevant state and commonwealth laws.

Alan John McEwan was appealing his February conviction for possessing child pornography and using his computer to access child pornography.

"The alleged pornography comprised a series of cartoons depicting figures modelled on members of the television animated series The Simpsons," the judge said.

The cartoons showed characters such as Bart, Lisa and Maggie Simpson having sex.

McEwan was convicted and fined $3000 and placed on a good behaviour bond.

"In my view, the magistrate was correct in determining that, in respect of both the commonwealth and the NSW offences, the word 'person' included fictional or imaginary characters ...," the judge said.

"... The mere fact that the figure depicted departed from a realistic representation in some respects of a human being did not mean that such a figure was not a 'person'."

In dismissing the appeal, the judge ordered each party to pay its own legal costs in the first case dealing with the "difficult" issue.
Wow. I know that this guy having Simpson's pornography is pretty disturbing, but considering it child pornography under the law? That's really unusual imo.

Is this a good or bad ruling?
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.Sup
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lol children will have nightmares
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Hurricane2k9
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Bad ruling. Rule 34 should not be a violation of the law unless it creates rule 34 of real kids.
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lol those cartoons are all over google. It's stupid considering it child porn especially when it's not real.
Sydney
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Bad ruling. Rule 34 should not be a violation of the law unless it creates rule 34 of real kids.
JoshP
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Sydney wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Bad ruling. Rule 34 should not be a violation of the law unless it creates rule 34 of real kids.
.Sup
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Josh is a really good debater
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Bloody fascists.
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unnamednewbie13
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Bad ruling. They're tasteless, but not real. They're sent to unwitting victims over PM/IM, they're poorly drawn and Aussies have bigger fish to fry...like actual child porn rings. Not this hodge-podge Mickey-Mouse horseshit. They're going to give a guy that onus for having doodles on his hard drive? What next, kids who draw boobs on stick figures are going to be called sex predators?

And if 'cartoons are people too,' then that's another step in the wrong direction as far as Aussie gamers should be concerned when it comes to censorship.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-12-08 14:48:04)

Flecco
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Bad ruling. They're tasteless, but not real. They're sent to unwitting victims over PM/IM, they're poorly drawn and Aussies have bigger fish to fry...like actual child porn rings. Not this hodge-podge Mickey-Mouse horseshit. They're going to give a guy that onus for having doodles on his hard drive? What next, kids who draw boobs on stick figures are going to be called sex predators?

And if 'cartoons are people too,' then that's another step in the wrong direction as far as Aussie gamers should be concerned when it comes to censorship.
Nah m8 they can't. Last time a govt. tried to do something about child sexual abuse it was slammed for being an Orwellian racist regime that was trying to steal aboriginal land. Several careers were destroyed in the process.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Turquoise
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Good God...  Australia is so nanny statist.  What's up with you guys and censorship?  I thought we were bad, but damn....
JoshP
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.Sup wrote:

Josh is a really good debater
I formulate my debates based solely on the quotes of others
Flecco
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Turquoise wrote:

Good God...  Australia is so nanny statist.  What's up with you guys and censorship?  I thought we were bad, but damn....
Govt. has gone to shit. I blame it on elements of the Liberal Party and the bulk of the Labour Party.


Oh and parts of the Australian public.


We need the Libs back. Facist police state ftw. Pity about Beazley, he would have made a decent PM.
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S.Lythberg
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I think a large sector of the japanese porn industry just died...
CC-Marley
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S.Lythberg wrote:

I think a large sector of the japanese porn industry just died...
That is what I was just thinking. Seems a silly waste of resources needed elsewhere to me.
S.Lythberg
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CC-Marley wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

I think a large sector of the japanese porn industry just died...
That is what I was just thinking. Seems a silly waste of resources needed elsewhere to me.
hey, if it keeps them from going after real children, I'm all for it
Dilbert_X
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The Judge wrote:

the word 'person' included fictional or imaginary characters
Well thats a whole new legal theory.

Still, child porn is vile, a cartoon version is just some perverted attempt to bring it into the mainstream.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2008-12-09 03:33:42)

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BrimstoneFire
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Flecco wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Good God...  Australia is so nanny statist.  What's up with you guys and censorship?  I thought we were bad, but damn....
Govt. has gone to shit. I blame it on elements of the Liberal Party and the bulk of the Labour Party.


Oh and parts of the Australian public.


We need the Libs back. Facist police state ftw. Pity about Beazley, he would have made a decent PM.
1. Australia has gone all big brothery on us and it will/has start to suck majorly....
2. Definitely need the Libs back
3. Beazley would of done a poor job as PM... too many donuts!
4. Howard was an idiot to stay that long in power
5. Cartoon characters are not real people and never will be... this is bs and should be dealt with likewise.. down the toilet/out the window (so to speak)

Last edited by BrimstoneFire (2008-12-09 05:10:54)

Turquoise
O Canada
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Flecco wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Good God...  Australia is so nanny statist.  What's up with you guys and censorship?  I thought we were bad, but damn....
Govt. has gone to shit. I blame it on elements of the Liberal Party and the bulk of the Labour Party.


Oh and parts of the Australian public.


We need the Libs back. Facist police state ftw. Pity about Beazley, he would have made a decent PM.
Don't you guys have something resembling the Libertarian party?  If not, you really need one.
max
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

actual child porn rings
lol

Dilbert_X wrote:

Still, child porn is vile, a cartoon version is just some perverted attempt to bring it into the mainstream.
double lol
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot  xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
Flecco
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Hey... Err.....

If the Simpsons are 'real people' doesn't that make them all about 21/22 years old?
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MysteryJake
Member
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Dilbert_X wrote:

The Judge wrote:

the word 'person' included fictional or imaginary characters
Well thats a whole new legal theory.

Still, child porn is vile, a cartoon version is just some perverted attempt to bring it into the mainstream.
Difference is no real children are harmed using this facet. I'de much rather some perverted freak getting off to cartoon kiddie porn than harm some innocent child to make some of his own.
.Sup
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hentai porn ftw
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The Japanese are fucked because half their cartoons involve rape.

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