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unnamednewbie13
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I like the wacky fingers. He's like an old war vet with robotic tendon damage. Probably lives on a space pension and records bootleg holodiscs for his grandbots.
uziq
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thinking of buying a new mountain bike for this spring/summer, it's something i have't done in years, and it's looking increasingly like a good excuse to get out of the city for weekends.

i am astonished at the prices of the things these days. i think i had a ~£1,000 MTB before i went off to university, and i was quite pleased with it, too. now the common wisdom is that £1,000 is an 'entry' level bike for full-suspension, and the respectable trail models cost as much as a Mini Cooper.

whew
unnamednewbie13
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What about the second-hand market over there.
uziq
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yeah i've got a few eBay saved searches. here we go ...
Dilbert_X
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Last MTB I had was a ~2001 Specialised Hardrock, for cross-country riding full suspension was a disadvantage.
Bikes are better now, with hydraulic disk brakes being the major change (don't get cable according to my friends), but of course you can go nuts spending a fortune shaving a few grams for the ride to the pub.
Epstein didn't kill himself
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
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I won a Trek bike at a charity auction a few years back. It's been hanging on a rack in my garage since.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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I've been half thinking about an MTB, I was going to start swimming again but I don't like doing lengths in other people's fluids and coronavirus.

Anywhere to cycle is a 20 minute drive, I was spoiled living at the foot of the ridgeway, not sure I can be bothered TBH.

If I did I guess full suspension with a lockout is the way to go these days.
Epstein didn't kill himself
SuperJail Warden
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uziq wrote:

thinking of buying a new mountain bike for this spring/summer, it's something i have't done in years, and it's looking increasingly like a good excuse to get out of the city for weekends.

i am astonished at the prices of the things these days. i think i had a ~£1,000 MTB before i went off to university, and i was quite pleased with it, too. now the common wisdom is that £1,000 is an 'entry' level bike for full-suspension, and the respectable trail models cost as much as a Mini Cooper.

whew
Buy a motorcycle or scooter instead.
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Last MTB I had was a ~2001 Specialised Hardrock, for cross-country riding full suspension was a disadvantage.
Bikes are better now, with hydraulic disk brakes being the major change (don't get cable according to my friends), but of course you can go nuts spending a fortune shaving a few grams for the ride to the pub.
i was looking at a specialized stumpjumper, they seem decent.

one of my friends from home-ways works in a bike store and can get me trade prices. he's recommended a cannondale habit, instead.



think you'd really struggle to buy any 'outdoors' bike without disc brakes nowadays. with regards to the weight comment, yep, the carbon frame options do exist for people who want to spend £3000+. although the weight difference is more like 1/2 the aluminum/alloy equivalents, not a few grams. i see little point unless you're racing/competitive or living in a place that's so hilly that the difference is going to ruin your hill climbs.

likewise, the size of the wheels has gone up in recent years (from 26 to 29 as the new preferred option) and the geometry of the frames has changed a lot. mid-range trail/XC bikes now actually frequently have rear-suspension with medium travel. the bikes are set-up differently so you're not pedaling all your force into a rear shock. 

adjustable loading and on-the-ride saddle droppers seem to be the new must-haves for all-round bikes.

Buy a motorcycle or scooter instead.
if i wanted a bike for a mode of transport, i'd be looking at road bikes or at the least city bikes. i can walk everywhere from my city-centre apartment in 10/15 minutes. i just don't need a mode of transport like that. MTB'ing is fun and gets air in your lungs, riding a scooter not-so-much.

Last edited by uziq (2020-02-18 05:53:20)

SuperJail Warden
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Get a Pel-a-ton bike if you want exercise. Can't bike ride in snow
Dilbert_X
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I haven't looked at MTBs since 2005 so I can't help.

My first MTB had a flex-stem, that was neat and for the riding I did - cruising at speed on long trails - more useful than front suspension.
It seems they could be making a comeback.

https://forums.mtbr.com/attachments/vintage-retro-classic/264919d1180070683-remembering-old-days-girvin-flex-stem-girvin_1a.jpg
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Get a Pel-a-ton bike if you want exercise. Can't bike ride in snow
i get a bonus in march, there is no snow in the UK in the spring and summer. in fact it snows for about 3-4 days of the year here. maybe a week or two out of action in a particularly bad year.

why do you hate MTBs, macbeth? trannies don't ride them. it's okay.

@dilbs: yeah, i still have a downhill mountain bike at home in a garage. the thing weighs a tonne and must look like a flintstones car by modern standards. i am nowhere near in shape enough to lug that thing up hills, nor do i have the adrenaline-seeking inclination to throw myself back down them. i remember laughing at the 50-year old men in their 'pisspot' helmets doing 15 mile XC rides when i was a teenager, in my samurai body-armour, full-face helmet and fucking ski goggles. now i think they had a better idea. downhill MTB'ing is a death wish.

Last edited by uziq (2020-02-18 06:01:48)

SuperJail Warden
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Your mountain bike will get stolen. You can't steal a Pel-a-ton.
uziq
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lol yes, bikes do get stolen. but you'd have to be an idiot to chain a mountainbike to a street post. it's something you only get out when you're going riding, not for taking to the shops for a pint of milk.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,003|4082|London, England
I bought a folding bike for my commute. Carried it to and from work for a few weeks and then decided that I'd rather just get a citi bike subscription. What a pain in the ass lugging that thing on and off the train.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SuperJail Warden
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You might get mugged for your bike. You can't get mugged at home with a Pel-a-ton bike.

Back when I was a teacher in Newark, the Dean of students I didn't like commuted between Jersey City and Newark on a Schwinn bike. Evey day I saw that bike in the morning I was annoyed he wasn't mugged for it.
uziq
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i'm buying a damn MTB macb and there's not a thing you can do about it.
SuperJail Warden
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Okay but just be careful
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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I never cared about 'downhill',  I'm not an adrenaline junkie at all, MTBing was about fresh air and exercise and being out with my friends, not generating stories to tell people about how narrowly I escaped paraplegia.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2020-02-18 15:31:57)

Epstein didn't kill himself
unnamednewbie13
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Part of me misses the coaster brakes on my childhood bike. Made skidding to a stop in gravel super satisfying. Don't really get that feedback from hand brakes.
SuperJail Warden
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You should get a Pel-a-ton.
unnamednewbie13
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Already got a sort of generic all-terrain. Stable on roads or unpaved bike trails at nearby parks. A mountain bike with all the bells and whistles would be over the top for my usage, and I don't city bike enough to justify a dedicated road bike.
SuperJail Warden
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Already got a sort of generic all-terrain. Stable on roads or unpaved bike trails at nearby parks. A mountain bike with all the bells and whistles would be over the top for my usage, and I don't city bike enough to justify a dedicated road bike.
You have no idea what a Pelaton bike is do you?

You should buy one.
unnamednewbie13
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I thought you were talking in round-about reference to the road bicycle races. You know, peloton. Pack of riders. I already have an old exercise bike.
uziq
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peloton is a meme. funnily enough it meme’d with a bunch of liberals who were outraged at the premise of its advert. for some reason macbeth likes liberals when they’re joking about bikes. confusing.

i’m picking up a cannondale at 60% RRP.

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