No one is saying gameplay < graphics, but the lapse and thus relative lack of polish is a reasonable point to make against it when scoring it.Defiance wrote:
I wouldn't listen to a review that makes a big deal out of year-old graphics. If anything, that only makes it more accessible.SharkyMcshark wrote:
Yeah right...
That and GTA has traditionally had a time lapse between release on console and PC, which can lead to a lower graphics score (for reviewers that give out separate scores), especially when its considered that the PC is generally taken to the utting edge for graphics.
This game currently performs terribly even on Intel i7 / DDR3 / SLI machines.
Shame
It's basically the next Crysis, a game that advertises itself with awesome graphics and far-superior draw distances for PC over console, but then only allows you to actually play the game at 30fps+ on medium settings with low resolution. The GTA4 Forums I have visited are full of complaints and dissatisfaction, along with many many many cries for performance-tweaking patches and improved SLI support.
Guess it'll be a slow burner! May consider buying it for PC in a few years when the technology has stepped up
Shame
It's basically the next Crysis, a game that advertises itself with awesome graphics and far-superior draw distances for PC over console, but then only allows you to actually play the game at 30fps+ on medium settings with low resolution. The GTA4 Forums I have visited are full of complaints and dissatisfaction, along with many many many cries for performance-tweaking patches and improved SLI support.
Guess it'll be a slow burner! May consider buying it for PC in a few years when the technology has stepped up
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Just spent all afternoon acquiring service pack 1 for vista, installing it, installing gta 4 and then realizing it's fucked. Re-installing now, and hoping it's gonna work.
Anyone else having troubles?
Anyone else having troubles?
I jsut hope it has etter weapon sounds than san andreas. Those were terrible. Shooting peas with a slingshot sounded more impressive than the uzi or ak.
PC version = replace any sound you like.Sisco10 wrote:
I jsut hope it has etter weapon sounds than san andreas. Those were terrible. Shooting peas with a slingshot sounded more impressive than the uzi or ak.
Yeah, I tried that with San Andreas but never fiddled it out. I googled countless times but nothing. It´s not that big a deal anyway, just something I got hung up on after playing it for several hours.Sydney wrote:
PC version = replace any sound you like.Sisco10 wrote:
I jsut hope it has etter weapon sounds than san andreas. Those were terrible. Shooting peas with a slingshot sounded more impressive than the uzi or ak.
On the Rockstar website this is found for this game.
"THE GRAPHIC SETTINGS OF GRAND THEFT AUTO IV PC
Most users using current PC hardware as of December 2008 are advised to use medium graphics settings. Higher settings are provided for future generations of PCs with higher specifications than are currently widely available."
"THE GRAPHIC SETTINGS OF GRAND THEFT AUTO IV PC
Most users using current PC hardware as of December 2008 are advised to use medium graphics settings. Higher settings are provided for future generations of PCs with higher specifications than are currently widely available."
Holy fuckWhite-Fusion wrote:
On the Rockstar website this is found for this game.
"THE GRAPHIC SETTINGS OF GRAND THEFT AUTO IV PC
Most users using current PC hardware as of December 2008 are advised to use medium graphics settings. Higher settings are provided for future generations of PCs with higher specifications than are currently widely available."
It's actually trying to be Crysis!
It's just silly. They could have made this run max settings on today's computers. Why must they do shit like this, people aren't going to run out and buy the latest tech to play this game, stupid Rockstar, there better be a patch or hotfix in the next week.Sydney wrote:
Holy fuckWhite-Fusion wrote:
On the Rockstar website this is found for this game.
"THE GRAPHIC SETTINGS OF GRAND THEFT AUTO IV PC
Most users using current PC hardware as of December 2008 are advised to use medium graphics settings. Higher settings are provided for future generations of PCs with higher specifications than are currently widely available."
It's actually trying to be Crysis!
Or they could make it look great today and even better tomorrow. Why get angry because you can't run it maxed? Just run it medium/low like everyone else. The requirements aren't unreasonable and neither is the idea that they've made the graphics future proof.
I'm not angry, but even with a 4870 card and E6850 it still looks a bit meh. Console version looks better right now.Fat_Swinub wrote:
Or they could make it look great today and even better tomorrow. Why get angry because you can't run it maxed? Just run it medium/low like everyone else. The requirements aren't unreasonable and neither is the idea that they've made the graphics future proof.
I've heard ATI cards suffer with this game. That might be your problem.
All cards suffer with this problem.
Intel Core i7
4Gb DDR3 RAM
Nvidia 280GTX SLI w/ latest Nforce ware.
Average FPS in 1680x1050 benchmark on Med-High settings: 35.8fps.
Fuck. That.
Intel Core i7
4Gb DDR3 RAM
Nvidia 280GTX SLI w/ latest Nforce ware.
Average FPS in 1680x1050 benchmark on Med-High settings: 35.8fps.
Fuck. That.
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
It also suffers with SLI AFIAK.
SLI has zero optimization/support, yes.
Which is slightly ironic considering how "future proofed" and 'intended for future technology' their game is .
I understand that the open-world rendering and the complex physics engine are extremely demanding, but should they demand more than Crysis at any one point? I'm not so sure; much of the world/cars are pre-generated and really it's all just bad optimization. The list of bugs for this game is innumerable at present, what with the Rockstar Social Club integration and the installation/DRM problems... let alone the actual graphical and gameplay issues. I have high hopes for this game because GTA are a great series of PC sandbox games, but this one by far has the biggest teething problems! I should not expect to lag and have worse-than-console quality gameplay on a system nearly 10x the cost of a console!
Which is slightly ironic considering how "future proofed" and 'intended for future technology' their game is .
I understand that the open-world rendering and the complex physics engine are extremely demanding, but should they demand more than Crysis at any one point? I'm not so sure; much of the world/cars are pre-generated and really it's all just bad optimization. The list of bugs for this game is innumerable at present, what with the Rockstar Social Club integration and the installation/DRM problems... let alone the actual graphical and gameplay issues. I have high hopes for this game because GTA are a great series of PC sandbox games, but this one by far has the biggest teething problems! I should not expect to lag and have worse-than-console quality gameplay on a system nearly 10x the cost of a console!
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
By the way complete it twice and you wont play it again...
What a shame. I was looking forward to getting this game since I don't yet have a PS3, but looks like I'll just get the PS3 version later once I do get a PS3.
Oh well, I guess in 3 or 4 years I'll have a decent enough PC to play this on PC, and the game will be $20 then anyway, so it'll be worth it I suppose (did the same for San Andreas).
Oh well, I guess in 3 or 4 years I'll have a decent enough PC to play this on PC, and the game will be $20 then anyway, so it'll be worth it I suppose (did the same for San Andreas).
I've already completed it on Xbox360, I have no intention of playing the Story mode any more than I have to on PC...jord wrote:
By the way complete it twice and you wont play it again...
Purchased it simply for some fun sandbox gameplay, and to mess around with the movie editor.
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
Yeah I agree it's 2008 not 2005 they should pick up on the SLI stuff. If they can get their head around coding for a PS3 they can do something like that. What's wrong with the DRM? Standard SecuROM with unlimited installs over unlimited machines and one online activation. I think the consoles run at the PC's low quality anyway so even on medium, you'll be getting a graphical quality than the consoles.Uzique wrote:
SLI has zero optimization/support, yes.
Which is slightly ironic considering how "future proofed" and 'intended for future technology' their game is .
I understand that the open-world rendering and the complex physics engine are extremely demanding, but should they demand more than Crysis at any one point? I'm not so sure; much of the world/cars are pre-generated and really it's all just bad optimization. The list of bugs for this game is innumerable at present, what with the Rockstar Social Club integration and the installation/DRM problems... let alone the actual graphical and gameplay issues. I have high hopes for this game because GTA are a great series of PC sandbox games, but this one by far has the biggest teething problems! I should not expect to lag and have worse-than-console quality gameplay on a system nearly 10x the cost of a console!
who cares what the name of the settings level you play it on is called.White-Fusion wrote:
It's just silly. They could have made this run max settings on today's computers. Why must they do shit like this, people aren't going to run out and buy the latest tech to play this game, stupid Rockstar, there better be a patch or hotfix in the next week.Sydney wrote:
Holy fuckWhite-Fusion wrote:
On the Rockstar website this is found for this game.
"THE GRAPHIC SETTINGS OF GRAND THEFT AUTO IV PC
Most users using current PC hardware as of December 2008 are advised to use medium graphics settings. Higher settings are provided for future generations of PCs with higher specifications than are currently widely available."
It's actually trying to be Crysis!
Worry only about how good it looks on a certain level of hardware.
Its the same deal with crysis. If the graphics weren't so hyped for that game, and the highest level possible for it was medium it would still look as good as most modern games. Crysis on medium looks about the same to me as Far Cry 2 on very high. Yet because people can't run it on its highest setting they complain.
QFT.VicktorVauhn wrote:
who cares what the name of the settings level you play it on is called.White-Fusion wrote:
It's just silly. They could have made this run max settings on today's computers. Why must they do shit like this, people aren't going to run out and buy the latest tech to play this game, stupid Rockstar, there better be a patch or hotfix in the next week.Sydney wrote:
Holy fuck
It's actually trying to be Crysis!
Worry only about how good it looks on a certain level of hardware.
Its the same deal with crysis. If the graphics weren't so hyped for that game, and the highest level possible for it was medium it would still look as good as most modern games. Crysis on medium looks about the same to me as Far Cry 2 on very high. Yet because people can't run it on its highest setting they complain.
Does anyone know if the "Lost and the Damned" DLC is coming for the PC too? I mean, it IS run on Games for Windows..
I can either get the 360 version used and get the DLC (which apparentely substantial) or pick it up on Steam (and get the video editor, mods, etc). Dunno what to do.
I can either get the 360 version used and get the DLC (which apparentely substantial) or pick it up on Steam (and get the video editor, mods, etc). Dunno what to do.
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is there really any point to getting the 360 version when you already have the ps3 version?Poseidon wrote:
Does anyone know if the "Lost and the Damned" DLC is coming for the PC too? I mean, it IS run on Games for Windows..
I can either get the 360 version used and get the DLC (which apparentely substantial) or pick it up on Steam (and get the video editor, mods, etc). Dunno what to do.
I would expect PC gets all the DLC, not to mention mods.
I actually recall that the DLC was 360 only.
I'm probably wrong, Ill see If I can get a source.
I'm probably wrong, Ill see If I can get a source.
I think that was temporary, the 360 got all the DLC first.Stimey wrote:
I actually recall that the DLC was 360 only.
I'm probably wrong, Ill see If I can get a source.