BF2S Forums Yeah, here is your "economic crisis" at work.

usmarine wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I saw some video someone took with their cell phone. People were laughing in the background as they tried to revive him. I'll never understand those types. They make me sick.

yep.  i would honestly kill everyone who was laughing.  i think this kind of marketing crap should be banned.  these women need more hobbies other than this retarded lameness.

Marketing wasn't an issue, it was a damn sale. It was the cocksuckers in line.

Honestly..... This speaks to just how little we have come from our stone age brethren.

I hope those fuckers go to jail.

Oh well that appeases everything, I mean come on The Incredible Hulk for only $9? A fuckin' steal!

lowing wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Lowing, sometimes I worry you're actually serious.

Well tell how I am wrong then.

Americans are supposed to broke, can't pay bills and shit, but we can stampede a Wal Mart and kill a person for A big screen. Yeah we gotta really be suffering something fierce.

Stop being so narrowminded, Jesus H Christ.

You could interpret that just as rationally as being desperation for a bargain- the absolute broke state of people forcing them in wild droves to get goods at the cheapest price possible.

Either way, it has nothing at all to do with the recession / economic crisis. Shopping stampedes happen whether the economy is in tatters or not.

Well ye-ep, as I said... you touched upon some interesting socio-cultural points, but this isn't a matter of economics.

Could wax lyrical on the topics of consumerism and materialism...

As for the whole "suffering so bad, unable to eat, unable to pay the gas bills"- are you not used to your media yet? Hyperbole and histrionics, the toolkit of the American media.

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Lowing, sometimes I worry you're actually serious.

Well tell how I am wrong then.

Americans are supposed to broke, can't pay bills and shit, but we can stampede a Wal Mart and kill a person for A big screen. Yeah we gotta really be suffering something fierce.

I think it shows more about those peoples warped priorities than anything else. You have to remember these are people who were laughing at a man they trampled to death.

These were not "select" people. This was a pool of random people, this could have happened anywhere in America.

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Well tell how I am wrong then.

Americans are supposed to broke, can't pay bills and shit, but we can stampede a Wal Mart and kill a person for A big screen. Yeah we gotta really be suffering something fierce.

I think it shows more about those peoples warped priorities than anything else. You have to remember these are people who were laughing at a man they trampled to death.

These were not "select" people. This was a pool of random people, this could have happened anywhere in America.

They were select people. They were the sort of people who rush off to sales frantically. Consumer monkeys. No denying that.

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

These were not "select" people. This was a pool of random people, this could have happened anywhere in America.

They were select people. They were the sort of people who rush off to sales frantically. Consumer monkeys. No denying that.

Nope they were, sadly enough, typical Americans, like I said, this could have happened anywhere in the country. Now, I wonder just how many of these people went to church last Sunday.

My last point is undeniably true. I'll try to break it down even further.

They were at the sales rushing through crowds.  -  Many "typical" Americans would not do this.

They were laughing at a man being trampled to death. - Many "typical" Americans would not do this.

Therefore on top of their being typical Americans, they are also members of the select (although particularly in the first case, not very select - at all) groups of people who engage in those activities.

usmarine wrote:

Uzique wrote:

You could interpret that just as rationally as being desperation for a bargain- the absolute broke state of people forcing them in wild droves to get goods at the cheapest price possible.

YOU would try and interpret this that way as I expected.  Yet you fail to understand that this has been going on for many, many, many years.

If you had read all, or any for that matter, of my other posts you would see that I was arguing exactly that, this has fuck all to do with recent economic crisis.

I postulated that scenario in the response you eagerly quoted and picked apart because Lowing insists this is a matter of 'economics'- that it is sick behaviour that somehow has some sort of link to the economic crisis, or hence otherwise debunks the claims that everyone is poor, starving, cold, broke etc.etc...

As I've said and will repeat again for the 20th time, this is just an example of bullshit festive-marketing, discounts and sales driving the consumerist orgy into overdrive. Nothing to do with the background economic climate; nothing to do with the expendable income of your average Joe; nothing to do with the banking institutions and their bail-outs, and certainly nothing to do with whether the stocks are on the rise or fall. People would stampede and do this regardless.

Last edited by Uzique (2008-11-29 08:31:12)

Exactly, cyclical festive consumerist binges. There are rushes and suicide-stampedes at shopping malls everywhere during the Christmas season, and it has nothing to do with poverty... I have maintained and stated that in all of my posts. The reason (I shall repeat) why I posted the 'alternative' interpretation that you quoted is because Lowing was implying his logic was infallible and correct-- when in fact 'someone' (ergo: not myself) could interpret the rushes as poverty-driven desperation.

Good for you; I could read either in the same amount of time with the same amount of effort.

usmarine wrote:

Uzique wrote:

I could read either in the same amount of time with the same amount of effort.

not really.  in reality, more sentences equal more time.  unless you are a speed reader or something.

The difference between one sentence and three in terms of typing-time and reading time is about as long as it would take for me to wipe my own arse, quit yer whining. I had to lay it all out in fragmented clauses and separate sentences because you came in halfway through and misquoted me anyway, so I had to summarize the jist of 5 posts into one usmarine-friendly paragraph .

Last edited by Uzique (2008-11-29 08:53:05)

Uzique wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Uzique wrote:

You could interpret that just as rationally as being desperation for a bargain- the absolute broke state of people forcing them in wild droves to get goods at the cheapest price possible.

YOU would try and interpret this that way as I expected.  Yet you fail to understand that this has been going on for many, many, many years.

If you had read all, or any for that matter, of my other posts you would see that I was arguing exactly that, this has fuck all to do with recent economic crisis.

I postulated that scenario in the response you eagerly quoted and picked apart because Lowing insists this is a matter of 'economics'- that it is sick behaviour that somehow has some sort of link to the economic crisis, or hence otherwise debunks the claims that everyone is poor, starving, cold, broke etc.etc...

As I've said and will repeat again for the 20th time, this is just an example of bullshit festive-marketing, discounts and sales driving the consumerist orgy into overdrive. Nothing to do with the background economic climate; nothing to do with the expendable income of your average Joe; nothing to do with the banking institutions and their bail-outs, and certainly nothing to do with whether the stocks are on the rise or fall. People would stampede and do this regardless.

Actually what you are doing is proving MY point. It is business as usual, and with such a "economic crisis" looming over our heads, it most definately should NOT be, "business as usual". We should be wondering where our next meal is coming from, not out tramping some poor guy to death for a plasma TV. So basically the "economic crisis" does not seem to be much of a "crisis" to the America nconsumer aftr all. At least certainly not a "crisis" compared to the great depression where people actually WERE in food lines and not the big screen TV line.