BF2S Forums holy fuck terrorists running free.

lol.....figures.  how stupid.  you people are beyond little babies sometimes.  you know we wanted to release some people but their country would not take them back?

concentration camp.  god you know nothing.  fucking retarded.

Close Guantanamo bay doesn't equal let the terrorists go and run free.

God fucking damnit, usmarine talks about how everyone is stupid for somehow sympathising with terrorists (he's right), but maybe he should read the OP first before being gay. Sealxo doesn't even know what he's talking about himself.

Ok Sealxo, you asked if he knew about the repurcussions. Why don't you tell us, seeing as you know all. I know what you're going to say, you're gonna say he's just going to free them, because you're a moron. Logical thinking will think otherwise. Like, I don't know (i honestly don't) but he might go for something more legal.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2008-11-10 09:00:59)

oug wrote:

Wow he wants to close down an illegal concentration camp. Fancy that. What would Germany do without Auschwitz.

tons of these people return to the battlefield and kill again, are killed, or go back. They need to wait until the war is over before they release these people.

So you'd like to pay lives for some assholes freedom and rights? Would you rather the ones who surrender just get shot with their hands up? You might as well if you know they are going to be back shooting at you in a year.

How would you like it is we captured a bunch of Germans on Normandy and then sent them on a train back to Berlin in 1942 because it was the right thing to do? Different outcome of the war? war is war.

The US judges can't prove shit on foreign wars so they send their asses back and they kill more Americans. I'm well aware of the repercussions.

Last edited by SealXo (2008-11-10 09:04:45)

Well, I doubt closing down gitmo also means giving everyone back (which is usually the same as letting them free considering the countries most of the bastards come from)

There's probably an alternative solution to gitmo that's being looked at, of course you're going to get people saying "omg they're letting them run free" and people going "they're going to free these poor souls finally" both of whom are equal idiots...

Alleged terrorists. No terrorist is being let loose, only those who were arrested without enough evidence to convict them. The ones that may have enough evidence are going to trial to find out if the evidence is strong enough to convict them.

oug wrote:

How else would you two describe a prison where a trial is not an option and where one is kept without any charges pressed against him?

I call that a concentration camp. How naive am I.

Sadly some people will only learn by first hand experience. Words just don't cut it. Much like babies, that is.

Yeah just missing the part about doing experiments.

PureFodder wrote:

Alleged terrorists. No terrorist is being let loose, only those who were arrested without enough evidence to convict them. The ones that may have enough evidence are going to trial to find out if the evidence is strong enough to convict them.

Mekstizzle wrote:

SealXo wrote:

They are already being released from GITMO as it is. So if it closes it would be much worse.

So they're already letting terrorists run free? And if they close it, then ALL of them will be free? Where are you getting this info that they're just letting these guys go. Unless the guys they're letting go aren't terrorists, and they've found out that, that thought is strong enough to let them go.

Well, Commander Jeffrey Gorden, the Pentagon's spokesman, says, "our reports indicate that at least thirty former Guantanamo detainees have taken part in anti-coalition militanat activities after leaving U.S detention.."

So, a terrorist is a terrorist.

Last edited by SealXo (2008-11-10 09:09:37)

usmarine wrote:

oug wrote:

How else would you two describe a prison where a trial is not an option and where one is kept without any charges pressed against him?

they are prisoners.  picked up on the battlefield, not pulled from their homes because of their race or religion.  so smart guy, what should we have done with them?  bullet to the head?  maybe give them a lawyer so they can get right back out tot he battlefield?  because you know, a battlefield is a great place to find witnesses and eveidence.  use your head.

How do you know where they were caught? You're assuming things.

Giving them a lawyer does not set them free unless they are indeed innocent. Assuming of course they get a fair trial and not some mockery so that they can be put to prison again.

Battlefield's a tough place for evidence? Tough luck. If you want to call yourself righteous, if you want to spread freedom and democracy and all that bullshit then you mush abide by the fucking law. Otherwise you're no better than them. Get it through your skull. There are people in there that are innocent. Your government is taking away their basic human rights by refusing to press charges and by not providing trials.

For the rest of you. Nobody is saying let the guilty go free. Just make sure you give everyone a chance to defend themselves before the law. If you can't find evidence then they're free. That's how it works in the civilized world.

SealXo wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

Alleged terrorists. No terrorist is being let loose, only those who were arrested without enough evidence to convict them. The ones that may have enough evidence are going to trial to find out if the evidence is strong enough to convict them.

Mekstizzle wrote:

SealXo wrote:

They are already being released from GITMO as it is. So if it closes it would be much worse.

So they're already letting terrorists run free? And if they close it, then ALL of them will be free? Where are you getting this info that they're just letting these guys go. Unless the guys they're letting go aren't terrorists, and they've found out that, that thought is strong enough to let them go.

Well, Commander Jeffrey Gorden, the Pentagon's spokesman, says, "our reports indicate that at least thirty former Guantanamo detainees have taken part in anti-coalition militanat activities after leaving U.S detention.."

So, a terrorist is a terrorist.

So you want to convict potentially innocent people on the basis of what other people did?

usmarine wrote:

i am not assuming anything.  i was there for some of it.  spread freedom and democracy...lol.  using that old line again as an insult?  nice.  way to go.  you just brought yourself down to the level of .sup


you are assuming there are innocent people.  why cant i assume there is not?

No one is assuming shit. We're just making the point that Obama is not just going to let them walk around the States.

PureFodder wrote:

SealXo wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

Alleged terrorists. No terrorist is being let loose, only those who were arrested without enough evidence to convict them. The ones that may have enough evidence are going to trial to find out if the evidence is strong enough to convict them.

Mekstizzle wrote:

So they're already letting terrorists run free? And if they close it, then ALL of them will be free? Where are you getting this info that they're just letting these guys go. Unless the guys they're letting go aren't terrorists, and they've found out that, that thought is strong enough to let them go.

Well, Commander Jeffrey Gorden, the Pentagon's spokesman, says, "our reports indicate that at least thirty former Guantanamo detainees have taken part in anti-coalition militanat activities after leaving U.S detention.."

So, a terrorist is a terrorist.

So you want to convict potentially innocent people on the basis of what other people did?

They obviously arn't potentially innocent. I just think they should be held until the END of the war. Then let go. How would you like it if YOU were a father and your son got killed by a GITMO release e?

SealXo wrote:

They obviously arn't potentially innocent.

How did we figure that?

SealXo wrote:

I just think they should be held until the END of the war. Then let go. How would you like it if YOU were a father and your son got killed by a GITMO release e?

Same argument reversed: How would you like it if your son was innocent and was taken to Gitmo by mistake?