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Too bad we didn't keep stats on this before and after for a proper comparison.  This chart proves nothing, and there's also no proof that terrorism went up or down in the US because of this.

But for the most part, I think people feel a little safer from the threat...although I don't think anyone worried about the threat before 9/11.

Pug wrote:

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Too bad we didn't keep stats on this before and after for a proper comparison.  This chart proves nothing, and there's also no proof that terrorism went up or down in the US because of this.

But for the most part, I think people feel a little safer from the threat...although I don't think anyone worried about the threat before 9/11.

None of those attempted terror attacks would have been in any way suppressed by open warfare in Middle Eastern countries. It's like I've said before, all ye have to do is lock down your border, tighten up security at airports (or keep it as tight as it is post 9/11) and police each terror threat as it arises. Positive cooperation with International leaders can help deal with any overseas threat... not that there are any credible threats to the US from overseas.

Braddock wrote:

beerface702 wrote:

when obama made his speech tonight? McCain gave an amazing speech and took his loss with alot of integrity, he would have made an awesome potus imo. He has more there imo, more personality.

Obama is dry, something not there, I just can;t put my figure on it easily, maybe I am just a racist who is not obama drunk

The words "McCain" and "amazing speech" simply do not belong in the same sentence... unless of course they are accompanied by the words "did not give an...".

lmfao

Braddock wrote:

Pug wrote:

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Too bad we didn't keep stats on this before and after for a proper comparison.  This chart proves nothing, and there's also no proof that terrorism went up or down in the US because of this.

But for the most part, I think people feel a little safer from the threat...although I don't think anyone worried about the threat before 9/11.

None of those attempted terror attacks would have been in any way suppressed by open warfare in Middle Eastern countries. It's like I've said before, all ye have to do is lock down your border, tighten up security at airports (or keep it as tight as it is post 9/11) and police each terror threat as it arises. Positive cooperation with International leaders can help deal with any overseas threat... not that there are any credible threats to the US from overseas.

This doesn't look like an answer to my first question, but...

..."not that there are any credible threats to the US from overseas"...oh, like insurgents killing US troops?  or maybe the 19 in the table?  or 9/11?

On one hand, you're telling me 9/11 happened because we weren't prepared...and then in the next moment you're telling me there isn't any credible threats to the US?

One of the differences between Europe and the US is that ya'll had been dealing with terrorism for years while the US was quiet until 9/11.  We ignored the threat - and like I said, a huge event like 9/11 HAD to happen for us to change our policies.

Bertster7 wrote:

Pug wrote:

But for the most part, I think people feel a little safer from the threat...although I don't think anyone worried about the threat before 9/11.

So, if people worry more about terrorism now, doesn't that mean they feel less safe?

Compared to ignorance of a threat...yes.

No one now denies the threat was always there, we were just asleep.

aka no security versus passable security.

I used to carry bottles of Jack Daniels in my luggage prior to 9/11.

edit:
Here's another example of what I'm saying:
-after AIDS got popular, more people knew about safe sex.
-before not as many people knew about safe sex.

In hindsight did they feel safer about the unprotected sex they had in the past?  Nope.

Last edited by Pug (2008-11-05 07:51:09)

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Also Clinton never seems to get credit for his massive surplus

what?  are you kidding me?  wow

Not from people like you... care to prove me wrong?

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:

what?  are you kidding me?  wow

Not from people like you... care to prove me wrong?

i never said there was not a surplus.

So your much loathed President Clinton took the US from a considerable deficit to an impressive surplus, only for Bushy to drag you right back into the red again... it's nice to know you give him credit for that because many in here put it entirely down to the Republicans in the House of Representatives and Senate during his reign.

usmarine wrote:

he gets credit because he was the prez.  we can argue the reasons for it for sure.

Well that's the point... credit and blame, the man at the top gets them even when he hasn't got much of a hand in things because ultimately the buck stops with him.

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

usmarine wrote:

he gets credit because he was the prez.  we can argue the reasons for it for sure.

Well that's the point... credit and blame, the man at the top gets them even when he hasn't got much of a hand in things because ultimately the buck stops with him.

we shall see how many peeps keep that in mind in about 3 months

There will be plenty mate, don't worry. You'll be glad to know I voted for Fianna Fail in the last election here and have consistently bitched about them since they got in. As I have said... never stop bitching and never stop moaning at your Government no matter who is in office.

usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Reminds me of the story of the guy who throws paper airplanes out his window to keep rhinos away.

reminds me of the idea how he gets blamed because "he is the president" but gets no credit for things because "he is the president."

What credit would you give him?

Pug wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

usmarine wrote:

reminds me of the idea how he gets blamed because "he is the president" but gets no credit for things because "he is the president."

What credit would you give him?

whatever the answer, people are going to disagree...

yup.  not worth it tbh.

No Child Left Behind Act
Health Savings Accounts
Department of Homeland Security

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