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Mutantsteak wrote:
This is why I like Biden, and what I was hoping for at the debate
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Well the important thing is winning hearts and minds.Braddock wrote:
...oh, I can't remember anymore.
I don't know if I'd go that far but when I watched the VP debate he did come across as being a real safe pair of hands and the kind of guy you could really imagine as President.zeidmaan wrote:
holy crap!!!
Screw Obama you should have this guy as president...
...and limbs!TheAussieReaper wrote:
Well the important thing is winning hearts and minds.Braddock wrote:
...oh, I can't remember anymore.
Quite wrong. I read a lot about ancient latin rhetorics, and what Biden offered there could have been written by Cicero himself. It was absolutely brilliant in rhetorical terms, and that shows in the fact that people who don't know about rhetorics (please don't be mad at me, maffiaw) think it's right to the point. If he's able to speak like that, it really makes me wonder why the Palin-Biden debate can be considered as a draw...maffiaw wrote:
right to the point, no rhetorical bs involved.
Because the Dems learned their lesson in the Gore/Bush debates of 2000. You turn off the average American when you appear smarter than your opponent. Everyone likes the underdog.mr.hrundi wrote:
Quite wrong. I read a lot about ancient latin rhetorics, and what Biden offered there could have been written by Cicero himself. It was absolutely brilliant in rhetorical terms, and that shows in the fact that people who don't know about rhetorics (please don't be mad at me, maffiaw) think it's right to the point. If he's able to speak like that, it really makes me wonder why the Palin-Biden debate can be considered as a draw...maffiaw wrote:
right to the point, no rhetorical bs involved.
I though about that as well, but that's exactly the kind of rhetoric that works with those people. It worked in Greece, in Rome, in France while the revolution, in Russia (Communistic revolution), in Germany (Nazis). It mobilizes the masses. I think the real reson is that these rhetorics only last a few minutes or hours, while the discussion about it lasts months. The speakers speak, it might touch you, but these few minutes aren't enough to build an opinion. The opinion is built by the media these days, and if one media plays, in this special case, the "feminism-card" (new word?), Biden is royally fucked, because his platform isn't big enough to continue in the same way. I hope that made sense, I'm in a hurry...GorillaTicTacs wrote:
Because the Dems learned their lesson in the Gore/Bush debates of 2000. You turn off the average American when you appear smarter than your opponent. Everyone likes the underdog.mr.hrundi wrote:
Quite wrong. I read a lot about ancient latin rhetorics, and what Biden offered there could have been written by Cicero himself. It was absolutely brilliant in rhetorical terms, and that shows in the fact that people who don't know about rhetorics (please don't be mad at me, maffiaw) think it's right to the point. If he's able to speak like that, it really makes me wonder why the Palin-Biden debate can be considered as a draw...maffiaw wrote:
right to the point, no rhetorical bs involved.
In the Biden/Palin debate, if he hadn't kept his cool, he would have looked like a bully and McCain's campaign would have been able to play the victim card like it was going out of style.
Discretion is the better part of valour.
The dems already made their choice. They could've chosen Biden, but they didn't.zeidmaan wrote:
holy crap!!!
Screw Obama you should have this guy as president...
Is it possible for them to switch ?
No, and Iraq.zeidmaan wrote:
holy crap!!!
Screw Obama you should have this guy as president...
Is it possible for them to switch ?
THat's the best you got eh? I hate when a Democrat is right too buddy.deeznutz1245 wrote:
Anyone can rant and rave.....
???Im not saying he is not right. I actually agree with him, however, what I am pointing out is we have folks here putting him on a political pedastool because he got emotional. All I am pointing out is anyone can be passionate about something, it doesn't make them a good president. You should have seen this guy at the return desk at Lowe's last weekend, he was letting the manager have it over a garden hose with a leak in it but I wouldnt put him on a ticket. Christ Im sure even George W is pasionate about lincoln logs or something.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
THat's the best you got eh? I hate when a Democrat is right too buddy.deeznutz1245 wrote:
Anyone can rant and rave.....
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Sure hey may not be the best politician in history. but compared to his opponent (Palin) his practically the second coming of jesusdeeznutz1245 wrote:
???Im not saying he is not right. I actually agree with him, however, what I am pointing out is we have folks here putting him on a political pedastool because he got emotional. All I am pointing out is anyone can be passionate about something, it doesn't make them a good president.Mason4Assassin444 wrote:
THat's the best you got eh? I hate when a Democrat is right too buddy.deeznutz1245 wrote:
Anyone can rant and rave.....