I have been considering upgrading my cpu and was wondering if it was worth going to quad core? I currently have a dual core Intel 3.0 overclocked to 3.45. I will later be adding a better video card and going to Vista with 3GB of ram. Any suggestions? Thanx for the help/input.
You'd be better go have 4gb of ram with vista. I'd suggest two blocks of 2gig rather than 3 slots of 1gb.
What video card are you in the market for? A Geforce 8800gt isn't going to be bottle necked by a 3.45 dual core at all.
What video card are you in the market for? A Geforce 8800gt isn't going to be bottle necked by a 3.45 dual core at all.
if you're gaming no. If you do rendering / encoding / folding@home it is. I don't think a CPU upgrade is worth it for you. What do you have in there atm?
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Specs. "Intel 3.0 dual core" doesn't say anything.
When are you people gonna learn?
When are you people gonna learn?
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
I am geared towards gaming and looking at the 8800 or 8600 series. I currently have 3.0 ocd to 3.45 2GB Ram and 6800GT on XP Pro. I'm wanting to more gaming besides BF2 and I know this setup won't help me with direct X 10 stuff. So does Vista use the whole 4gb?
You have a 3.0 what? E8400? E6850? Or even an AMD cpu?capt. crunch wrote:
I am geared towards gaming and looking at the 8800 or 8600 series. I currently have 3.0 ocd to 3.45 2GB Ram and 6800GT on XP Pro. I'm wanting to more gaming besides BF2 and I know this setup won't help me with direct X 10 stuff. So does Vista use the whole 4gb?
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E8400 with a GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L mobo.
All I'm wanting to know is should I go quad or stay with what I got?
All I'm wanting to know is should I go quad or stay with what I got?
For gaming just keep that. Put the extra cash into a nice video card and 2x2GB of RAM.capt. crunch wrote:
E8400 with a GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L mobo.
All I'm wanting to know is should I go quad or stay with what I got?
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Ok thanx, so does Vista use 4GB?
That's what I said in post #2.Bell wrote:
For gaming just keep that. Put the extra cash into a nice video card and 2x2GB of RAM.capt. crunch wrote:
E8400 with a GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L mobo.
All I'm wanting to know is should I go quad or stay with what I got?
Yes.capt. crunch wrote:
Ok thanx, so does Vista use 4GB?
lolFreezer7Pro wrote:
When are you people gonna learn?
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Well thanx guys, sorry I'm a lil slow this morning.
Spread them some karma loving and i'm sure they'll forgive you, tho the pro tip in any tech section is that the abudance of accurate information is king and also reading and understanding what these guys post is also helpful to your causecapt. crunch wrote:
Well thanx guys, sorry I'm a lil slow this morning.
IF IT IS THE 64-BIT VERSION! THE 32-BIT VERSION CAN'T USE EVEN A BIT MORE THAN 32-BIT XP!TheAussieReaper wrote:
Yes.capt. crunch wrote:
Ok thanx, so does Vista use 4GB?
Vista. Is. Not. Magical! God.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Should you stay or should you go now?capt. crunch wrote:
E8400 with a GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L mobo.
All I'm wanting to know is should I go quad or stay with what I got?
If you stay there will be trouble.
If you go it will be double...
(or something like that)
Oh, and I'd go Quad, but that's just me - as I think it was max said - it all depends on what you do with your PC and how soon in the future you're likely to want to upgrade again...
OH, and Freezer - do we have to go there (32bit OS and 4GB RAM) again????
It still uses most of the 4 gig. With as cheap as ram is why not get 4 gig even if you're on 32 bit? So you lose .75 gig or so of your 4 gig, you still have 1.25 more than with 2 gig for little extra $ and 32 bit vista uses more resources than xp so it doesn't hurt having more than 2 gig.Freezer7Pro wrote:
IF IT IS THE 64-BIT VERSION! THE 32-BIT VERSION CAN'T USE EVEN A BIT MORE THAN 32-BIT XP!TheAussieReaper wrote:
Yes.capt. crunch wrote:
Ok thanx, so does Vista use 4GB?
Vista. Is. Not. Magical! God.
Yes, I know that, but people live in the illusion that every dist of Vista can use 4GB RAM to it's fullest, which is 100% untrue.jaymz9350 wrote:
It still uses most of the 4 gig. With as cheap as ram is why not get 4 gig even if you're on 32 bit? So you lose .75 gig or so of your 4 gig, you still have 1.25 more than with 2 gig for little extra $ and 32 bit vista uses more resources than xp so it doesn't hurt having more than 2 gig.Freezer7Pro wrote:
IF IT IS THE 64-BIT VERSION! THE 32-BIT VERSION CAN'T USE EVEN A BIT MORE THAN 32-BIT XP!TheAussieReaper wrote:
Yes.
Vista. Is. Not. Magical! God.
@Scorp: He has a graphics card, and they're talking about system RAM. Silly pedants.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
And some people live in the illusion that if you have a 32bit system with 3x1GB dimms installed, there's no point in buying another 1GB dimm.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Yes, I know that, but people live in the illusion that every dist of Vista can use 4GB RAM to it's fullest, which is 100% untrue.jaymz9350 wrote:
It still uses most of the 4 gig. With as cheap as ram is why not get 4 gig even if you're on 32 bit? So you lose .75 gig or so of your 4 gig, you still have 1.25 more than with 2 gig for little extra $ and 32 bit vista uses more resources than xp so it doesn't hurt having more than 2 gig.Freezer7Pro wrote:
IF IT IS THE 64-BIT VERSION! THE 32-BIT VERSION CAN'T USE EVEN A BIT MORE THAN 32-BIT XP!
Vista. Is. Not. Magical! God.
@Scorp: He has a graphics card, and they're talking about system RAM. Silly pedants.
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True. Let's fix both in another bolded, capitalized line:Scorpion0x17 wrote:
And some people live in the illusion that if you have a 32bit system with 3x1GB dimms installed, there's no point in buying another 1GB dimm.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Yes, I know that, but people live in the illusion that every dist of Vista can use 4GB RAM to it's fullest, which is 100% untrue.jaymz9350 wrote:
It still uses most of the 4 gig. With as cheap as ram is why not get 4 gig even if you're on 32 bit? So you lose .75 gig or so of your 4 gig, you still have 1.25 more than with 2 gig for little extra $ and 32 bit vista uses more resources than xp so it doesn't hurt having more than 2 gig.
@Scorp: He has a graphics card, and they're talking about system RAM. Silly pedants.
A 32BIT SYSTEM WILL NOT USE THE FULL 4GB OF SYSTEM MEMORY IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER RAM INSTALLED TO ANY DEVICE!
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Doesn't have to be RAM installed on other devices. All hardware is interfaced through memory addresses. Therefore all hardware is, in essence, seen as memory and uses some of the available 4GB of memory addresses that a 32-bit OS can see.Freezer7Pro wrote:
True. Let's fix both in another bolded, capitalized line:Scorpion0x17 wrote:
And some people live in the illusion that if you have a 32bit system with 3x1GB dimms installed, there's no point in buying another 1GB dimm.Freezer7Pro wrote:
Yes, I know that, but people live in the illusion that every dist of Vista can use 4GB RAM to it's fullest, which is 100% untrue.
@Scorp: He has a graphics card, and they're talking about system RAM. Silly pedants.
A 32BIT SYSTEM WILL NOT USE THE FULL 4GB OF SYSTEM MEMORY IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER RAM INSTALLED TO ANY DEVICE!
PEDANT!Bertster7 wrote:
Doesn't have to be RAM installed on other devices. All hardware is interfaced through memory addresses. Therefore all hardware is, in essence, seen as memory and uses some of the available 4GB of memory addresses that a 32-bit OS can see.Freezer7Pro wrote:
True. Let's fix both in another bolded, capitalized line:Scorpion0x17 wrote:
And some people live in the illusion that if you have a 32bit system with 3x1GB dimms installed, there's no point in buying another 1GB dimm.
A 32BIT SYSTEM WILL NOT USE THE FULL 4GB OF SYSTEM MEMORY IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER RAM INSTALLED TO ANY DEVICE!
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
PEDANT!Bertster7 wrote:
Doesn't have to be RAM installed on other devices. All hardware is interfaced through memory addresses. Therefore all hardware is, in essence, seen as memory and uses some of the available 4GB of memory addresses that a 32-bit OS can see.Freezer7Pro wrote:
True. Let's fix both in another bolded, capitalized line:
A 32BIT SYSTEM WILL NOT USE THE FULL 4GB OF SYSTEM MEMORY IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER RAM INSTALLED TO ANY DEVICE!
It was in bold. You've gotta be pedantic about stuff written in bold. It's the rules.
Anyway, that's a bit rich coming from you:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
LOL.Freezer7Pro wrote:
That's what LAN was invented for in the first place, you know ♦
Sort of, but, actually, not exactly.
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I know, I know - me crying "PEDANT!" is like lowing crying "RACIST!"...Bertster7 wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
PEDANT!Bertster7 wrote:
Doesn't have to be RAM installed on other devices. All hardware is interfaced through memory addresses. Therefore all hardware is, in essence, seen as memory and uses some of the available 4GB of memory addresses that a 32-bit OS can see.
It was in bold. You've gotta be pedantic about stuff written in bold. It's the rules.
Anyway, that's a bit rich coming from you:Scorpion0x17 wrote:
LOL.Freezer7Pro wrote:
That's what LAN was invented for in the first place, you know ♦
Sort of, but, actually, not exactly.
*ducks and covers*
Because they're not on here as much as you. They don't know as much as you. They're here to ask questions and if they knew exactly how you thought they wouldn't have to. You ought to reconsider the business of helping people.Freezer7Pro wrote:
When are you people gonna learn?
Also, pedants lead to interesting conversation.
he's talking about posting full specs though.Defiance wrote:
Because they're not on here as much as you. They don't know as much as you. They're here to ask questions and if they knew exactly how you thought they wouldn't have to. You ought to reconsider the business of helping people.Freezer7Pro wrote:
When are you people gonna learn?
when asking for help, ALWAYS post full specs.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
Exactly. There's even a sticky about it.haffeysucks wrote:
he's talking about posting full specs though.Defiance wrote:
Because they're not on here as much as you. They don't know as much as you. They're here to ask questions and if they knew exactly how you thought they wouldn't have to. You ought to reconsider the business of helping people.Freezer7Pro wrote:
When are you people gonna learn?
when asking for help, ALWAYS post full specs.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP