DrunkFace wrote:
[-DER-]Omega wrote:
DrunkFace wrote:
That's there job. It's what their employer has hired them to do, if they fail to do that, they lose a customer for life. I'll tip if the service is exceptional, but good food and timely service does not alone qualify as 'exceptional', it is expected.
note the fact that typically, the vast majority of a waiter's pay comes from tips and not hourly wage assigned by the restaurant. a server is gonna be making fuck all when he's tipped 10% or less and being paid 1/2 minimum wage and has to account for tipshare.
Your argument is retarded. Increase prices and pay your employees a proper wage. Tips are a bonus over and above your wage.
I agree.
Here's an argument:
Fact: Many people in many countries are getting minimum wage from being waiters depend on their tip to get by; their pay from their employer simply isn't enough. As the employers purpose is to make a profit, and his rival businesses are also paying their employees the minimum, the employer simply cannot compete with higher wages.
- The minimum wage should become higher in order to provide the possibility of a bare minimum standard of living for people working full hours. People working in fields that don't have the possibility for a tip wouldn't have to work two jobs (which they in worst cases do).
Tips are not taxed for, they do not accumulate any pension for the employee nor do they add up "under the line" in any case when it comes to "official salary".
- In cases of sickness or other inability to work, the relative amount of sick pay / disability money (or whatever it's called) is not in par with what they would earn when working as the tip-factor is not taken into consideration.
- Pensions become ridiculously low for those working minimum wage, private pension funds are unaffordable.
If tipping is a standard (which it seems it has become in some places), tips function ultimately as a disservice to their recipients. As long as tipping is a standard, there is little pressure to increase minimum salaries, especially from the passivated waiters who may think this is their only option and that they will get by by doing things this way, not seeing the inevitable, which is that at some point in their lives they will be unable to work due to age / health problems, but can't afford not to.
Hence, I don't tip automatically. I need to get the sensation that I'm getting personal service, then I go with the customary 5-10 %. I'm for people getting paid enough to get by, and their salaries checked at the event of inflation. I don't believe tips should be an important part of what ends up on a working persons bank account.
P.S: I also many times don't take the café-tray to the tray holder in cafés, the more self-service customers do, the less service we will get in the future, and the less jobs will be available.
Think about it.
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