BF2S Forums Biden, Palin set for Oct. 2 VP Debate

Poseidon wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

I'm not saying that at all.

Clinton was quite far from being a superstar.

But yet he was still better than Bush ever was/is. As the question has been asked so many times - do you seriously think we're better off now than when we were during the Clinton administration?

I know my family's financial system has changed a hell of a lot, that's for sure. I might have been young during it, but I remember quite well.

I'm no economics expert - quite far from it. Yet I'm able to see how my life and my family's life has been changed in this administration.

I think we are living in a different world. One that has paid the price for the dismantling of our intelligence agencies and decades of ignoring corruption. Do you think corporate scandals like Enron, Adelphia, and Tyco just magically appeared when Bush took office?

Whenever I hear the "Clinton left us a surplus" remarks all I can think of is this.
http://i34.tinypic.com/n708z4.jpg
It looks great from a distance, but in truth there was a real storm brewing.

Again, the GOP contributed as well. But there are lots of people lining up to point blame at one party. You'd (not you specifically) have to be a complete idiot to buy that. People are being taken for a ride. And frankly I'm getting tired of hearing it

Well hey, if Rabin was never murdered...you never know what could have happened.

Well, I'll give into this one Kmar. As I've said, I'm not an economics master and I'm not going to pretend I am indeed one.

However, I'm also not blaming one party for this. Don't think I am for one second. I'm no democrat and I'm certainly no republican.

Dewd it's the ME. We know what's going to happen. The best we can ever hope for is getting the hell out of there permanently. .. let's stop trying to make deals over 4000 year old blood feuds.

It's not giving in (lol). I just want everyone to look at the POS representitives on both sides.. which you have apparently agreed with. We are the ultimate in accountability. Let's make sure no one get's a pass .

Poseidon wrote:

Okay, this is gonna be a fun one:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

And you pointed this out to me why then?  Oh, you thought I didn't know that....  So Obama needed and extra week of prep time and DIDN'T SHOW UP TO HIS JOB WHEN IT MATTERED the most to the people he trying to server????  "Give me a call and I'll be there???  It's that about what he said?

Did he NOT just fucking VOTE ON THE BILL? He didn't go to Washington because it WASN'T NECESSARY. McCain went for a PHOTO OP and to LOOK GOOD TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. And apparentely, he failed miserably. Nevada, Ohio and Florida are now polling blue.

Good job there, old man McCain.

Polls don't matter.  Didn't all the major news networks during the Bush d. Kerry election spew shit for exit polls?  I really don't buy stock into them.  O"bah"ma!

I guess we just don't share the same respect for the process of American civics.  But that would take some kind of knowledge into the process, which you like O"bah"ma obviously lack.

Poseidon wrote:

Everybody who saw him there?  You mean except Obama?

Or how about just about everyone?

And those are only a few of the many articles I can provide. Apparentely, just about everyone can see through what McCain was doing. But not you.

OBAMA isn't the President.  He's a Senator.....  Fish in a fucking barrel man...

Poseidon wrote:

I'm sorry to say this, but you're a sheep, my friend. He doesn't respect shit. The ONLY reason he went is to try and win over votes so he could try to make the American public think he was actually caring. People saw through it, and he's slipping farther and farther downwards into the depths of the polls. Even the GOP strategists are saying that unless Obama's hit with a political meteor in the next week - McCain has a slim chance of winning.

Says the O"bah"ma chanter.... McCain has served our country longer that you've been alive.  Bash away.

Poseidon wrote:

Whatever you want to believe. You probably think McCain has Christian family values as well. I'm sure you're one of the same people who thinks he doesn't respect America due to the fact that a chain e-mail made a picture look as if he didn't hold his hand over his heart during the pledge?

You presume and hate.  Actually I have a Major in Sociology with minor in Poly Sci from FSU.  I can form my own opinions based on what I observe.  And it is weak shit from dems.  You have nothing, just like Obama.  You have been sold a packaged and well advertised "Back street Boy" of politics.  Its kinda sad to watch, and if he's elected we'll pay... Just watch the debate tomorrow night.

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2008-10-01 20:58:37)

Poseidon wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Well hey, if Rabin was never murdered...you never know what could have happened.

Well, I'll give into this one Kmar. As I've said, I'm not an economics master and I'm not going to pretend I am indeed one.

However, I'm also not blaming one party for this. Don't think I am for one second. I'm no democrat and I'm certainly no republican.

Dewd it's the ME. We know what's going to happen. The best we can ever hope for is getting the hell out of there permanently.

It's not giving in (lol). I just want everyone to look at the POS representitives on both sides.. which you have apparently agreed with. We are the ultimate in accountability. Let's make sure no one get's a pass .

Rabin was the closest we'd come to peace though. We also never thought we'd make peace with the Japanese with the way they were...look at us now. Even though I hate Japanese games.

Buuuut that's another topic for another time.

I certainly don't. Congress, as a whole, sucks. I even told my mother (who's a pretty strict democrat) to not vote "incumbent" no matter what. Surprisingly enough, she agreed!

Everyone's feeling the hurt from this. It blows. My dad (who sells medical/OR tools FWIW)'s business is on the decline. It really blows.

Yea, our country of just over a couple hundred years and that little skirmish we had with the Japanese isn't even close to the History of the ME. Nor was our hate based on doing the will of an intangible deity. Huge differences. Interesting enough the reconciliation between America/Japan was done solely by the parties involved. No third party mediator can ever force a local populace to get along. Not for long at least.


Buuuut that's another topic for another time.

Kmarion wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Dewd it's the ME. We know what's going to happen. The best we can ever hope for is getting the hell out of there permanently.

It's not giving in (lol). I just want everyone to look at the POS representitives on both sides.. which you have apparently agreed with. We are the ultimate in accountability. Let's make sure no one get's a pass .

Rabin was the closest we'd come to peace though. We also never thought we'd make peace with the Japanese with the way they were...look at us now. Even though I hate Japanese games.

Buuuut that's another topic for another time.

I certainly don't. Congress, as a whole, sucks. I even told my mother (who's a pretty strict democrat) to not vote "incumbent" no matter what. Surprisingly enough, she agreed!

Everyone's feeling the hurt from this. It blows. My dad (who sells medical/OR tools FWIW)'s business is on the decline. It really blows.

Yea, our country of just over a couple hundred years and that little skirmish we had with the Japanese isn't even close to the History of the ME. Nor was our hate based on doing the will of an intangible deity. Huge differences. Interesting enough the reconciliation between America/Japan was done solely by the parties involved. No third party mediator can ever force a local populace to get along. Not for long at least.


Buuuut that's another topic for another time.

If the ME isn't made into glass in the next 20 years, I guess we'll just have to see.

If we're all still alive that is. :S

I'm a misanthrope when it comes to a lot of things, but for some reason I've got hope for the middle east. Don't ask why. Just a gut feeling.

P wrote:

An..  ..eet I guess.

"Oh'bah'ma"? Yeesh, atleast get a better name if you're going to insult him.

I wasn't insulting him...   man.

p wrote:

Wha..   ..she'll win.

What question do you want me to answer?

p wrote:

Con... .. you lack in.
I wouldn't support..    .... that card.

Fine. I won't play that card, but I'll play the card that O"bah"ma's policies will spend and tax more than  McCains will.  You will lose out.  The country will become weaker.  You thought GW was bad?  Hold on tight and ride the wave P.

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2008-10-01 22:23:38)

topthrill05 wrote:

Wait Obama lost the debate?

McCain was a total ass to Obama though I'll give ya that.

If we're going to talk about treating the other guy with respect, I'll put forward something my Dem/lib wife noticed when the two referred to each other:

McCain: "Senator Obama" every single time

Obama: "John" 90+% of the time

In all fairness McCain's ad playing music right out of the 1920's probably isn't the best idea neither..lol. Nice TV too.

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palin's a grandmother

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God Save the Queen wrote:

palin's a grandmother

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The McCain camp just declared Palin the winner.