BF2S Forums NEW HOSTAGE girl from my area and im pisssssssssssssssed what to do

Just a little view from looking over these posts, but most of these comments are so hypocritical, I see lots of people throwning out racist comments, then critisizing other for doing the same. also i saw i couple of posts from americans saying basicly "dont judge us, you dont know us" or "your basing what you think of us on the news". but where does your info on these other countries come from, have you been there so see first hand and tried to see what its like for them. Let me ask a question, if somehow the states army wasnt around and some forgien power invaded and started taking all your resources for there gain, whatever your loses, would you pick up a gun and kill as many of them as you could, i would.
Also do you actually expect them to attack the US military head on so their cause would be destroyed in a matter of days, they are obviously not gonna do that, so they attack what will get the US away from them, whatever will get people protesting the war, which is by attacking normal people. military personal are supposed to give their lives for the country, no one will protest a war if they die. but when you see someone who could be your son, daughter, neighbour, etc. get killed brutaly people protest.
Try not looking at it with racist terms... those names are their to dehumanize it so its easier, just like calling the vietnemse the charlie.
not that i dont sympathize with this girl over there, or anyone else whose been in here situation. i fully do, but i wouldnt be going over there for any reason, humanitarian or not. not for a very long time yet.

Exactly!   I have the great oppurtunity to serve 9 months in Iraq, 5 months in Afghanistan, and 3 months in Bosnia.  I have spent this time over the past 6 years.  Let me tell you, no matter what the news states, they will be better off in long run.

one more quick thing... it's a damn shame about that lady and i really hope everything works out for her.  the people who kidnapped her need to pay but likely never will.  this sort of thing happens a lot more than you know though.  we only hear about the americans or brits or canadians and such.  nothing reported about the guys from malawi and madagascar that were snatched a couple of days ago.  there's that all-knowing unbiased news media for ya.

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

Bush knew sadam didnt have weapons of mass destruction he just wanted more oil lets see i dont mind killing a bunch of children and familes and getting my own troops killed just as long as i have lots and lots of oil wile i stay in my big nice white house and get rich wile my people die.

Perhaps worse then the terrorists?

How many times does President Bush have to say that HE DID NOT go into iraqi for oil.  He went in there because of September 11.  Has America been attacked since then?  NO!  We brought the war into there lands instead of having to fight it on our shores.  And, he took out Saddam because he was harboring terrorists.  Even if Saddam would'nt have harboured terrorists, it still was good to take him out because of the weapons he used on his people.  You say that Saddam didn't have weapons of mass destruction.  Didn't you here about all the mass graves in iraqi?

Adam5286 wrote:

So I guess this girl is going to have her head chopped off by these fuckheads.

U kill her we stand these 8 bitches in a row  and shoot them in the back of the head with an m16   1 at a time.

When wille the videos be available on www.ogrish.com ???

Your spelling completly sucks ass, u use way to many spaces and no characters like dot's and comma's,etc ...
Wait let me guess, you is white live in trailer and go with trash  ???

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I agree, kill those extremists bitches. You kill one of us, we kill 10 of you.

Well -|V2^Faggot   im glad we had to bring grammar into this    i said earlier who give a fuck about punctuation   this thread isnt about proof reading half of my posts i was tanked when i made them   but your the douche bag who pointed them out           oh yeah genius under my name is clearly states im from cape cod you dumb shit     you my good friend are a douche bag             and here are some more spaces for you                                       because only you would care something like that you dick loving faggot                       so much of this thread has talked about not judging a country bassed on a few people  but you    you fought the power  u showed me even after reading that  u can hold on to your arrogance  good for you    u fucking flamer

beeng wrote:

FoodNipple101 wrote:

I agree. I got 4 fucking akmeds out of 7 fucking classes. I want them dead all dead. And here comes the argument "there not all terrorist" Well if there aint any goat fuckers. There aint anything to worry about.

except the irish, communist, and south american terrorists
i dont think the 'killthemall' tactic works

what the fuck u got  with us irish, if u mean the northan irish get it right ass hole and not all the northan irish are terrorist its only a select few I.R.A witch are now finished susposadly? and an other few

think before u post fool

Adam5286:

Based on your replies and information, I am going to assume you are not currently serving in the U.S Military. But just because you dropped your scholorship doesn't mean you arn't in right now. So if I'm wrong, forget about it..

But.. if you are an Officer, sir, and you work or are stationed at Camp Edwards, MA, I would like to speak with you in private concerning your conduct here on the forums. You have the right to do whatever you want on here and all, but (again), if you ARE an Officer in the U.S Army, this (your message content) is no way to represent us.. but I'm really assuming your not anyway, but just to be sure I wanted to tell you this. Alright?

I certainly know how you feel, but remember, terrorists, and those guys.. they don't think on a sane level. Based on whatever 'counter-intelligence' I can come up with, I would almost certaintly place a winning bet on the fact that, if we did release those women muslim hostages, they would let that girl go.

Why? Because we've rarely ever done such a thing. They'd shit their pants and say "Wow, we have them by the balls now, we know what their weakness is. Lets do it this one time in hopes they'll trust us to do it again... and then sooner or later, when we really have them on their knees, we'll double cross them and not do our part of the deal."

Fact is, we KNOW THIS will happen. It will keep happening. Whether we comply or not, they will keep doing it. Thus, we must never give in. Ever. No matter the cost. The United States will show no weakness in the face of a terrorist. We will not deal or do business with the likes of scumbags, inhumane people or otherwise. Ever. Case closed.

America cannot afford to appear weak or give in. Terrorists are not the only people who care or are watching the strength of the United States. The minute America gives in to a terrorist demand, is the minute we lose our allies who are depending upon us to be their guard.

"Shit, America is going to give in to the likes of them? Who are we to depend on now..?"

Thats how our allies think, trust me. We are a valuable nation to the world, all of you, like it or not.

This war, what we do.. its NEVER about one person. Its about a whole. You people, your replies.. you think of things on too personal a level. Biased, racist, whatever.

Sure, saving that girl would be a good deed, but you are forgetting that doing that, would effect millions... and millions.. and millions.



And to all of you.. as Soldiers, we follow orders, we do as we are told, the military is not a democracy, you learn that hard fact in basic training. If you want to rag on someone, do it on our leader and the people who specifically elected him. You all are aware of the deceit concerning politics.. I agree, American Politics is a f*cked up joke. But regardless of Bush's real, deep down intentions, he also has a political agenda and not just a financial one to secure America's economy. (Personally I'd have taken all this $$$ and put it into research on a new power source.. so we wouldnt be dependant on other nations for oil... but dont you think they know this? Don't you think (and WE CAN) if we developed a new power source, that would be far greater than this joke of a war over oil?).. so if thats true, there is CERTAINTLY more to this war than a oil hungry president.. so if you have that mentality alone, you need to be seriously educated.


There is far too much politics and personal opinions on this forum to be thrown around here. And no real action to be done based on the end result, which will be nothing more than a flame war. It's the god forsaken internet for crying out loud, this is not the place for such a topic to be discussed without expecting such childish, racist, and unacceptable ignorance and hate twards eachother.

Each and every one of you people who have shown such negativities twards eachother should be prevented from posting in these parts of the forums. Seriously.

But Adam.. is this how you felt inside when any other hostages were murdered? If you felt any different than you do with this girl, then its on a personal level with you.

Just remember the big picture.. if we gave in now, they'd get more hostages faster than you can imagine (than they are now), to keep on playing that game with us. Sure, some would be let go.. but exactly where would it end?

well im not an officer    i live right next to camp edwards tho  i was in florida when had my scholorship  but anyways i completely agree with you there is no way we could give into the terrorist because that will only encourage more terrorism     when i started the  thread it was just to see how people would to react to me suggesting that we instead of refusing to release the prisoners we threaten to kill all 8 of them if the hostage is killed. and actually doing that if it came down to it.   now i know we will never do that  it was just a thought.   and what i really want to know   is would it decrease these terrorist acts   say for every death by a terrorist we kill 5 of their people.   maybe they would stop killing infidels if they were directly causeing the death of 5 or 8 or whatever amount of their own people         
do you guys think it will work????
   honestly i dont think it would work    it could   but i think the terrorists are soo fucked in the head    nothing will work

FoodNipple101 wrote:

First off communist arent terrorist. There just strict. Its hard to explain but if you study communism the way its WRITTEN. Its actually perfect. but I hate gooks,mexicans,and akmeds to. I dont want them here. They do nothing but bring the human race down. I dont like blacks but theres 2 kinds of blacks. And I hate the french for supporting terrorism. I believe that (ya this is wierd) if we didnt have such primitive fucks on this planet we might have alien contact. But consider this. IF YOU WERE AN ALIEN. And saw everything we do to eachother WOULD YOU want come here. HELL NO

Primitive describes your intelligence and education to a T.

Adam5286 wrote:

well im not an officer    i live right next to camp edwards tho  i was in florida when had my scholorship  but anyways i completely agree with you there is no way we could give into the terrorist because that will only encourage more terrorism     when i started the  thread it was just to see how people would to react to me suggesting that we instead of refusing to release the prisoners we threaten to kill all 8 of them if the hostage is killed. and actually doing that if it came down to it.   now i know we will never do that  it was just a thought.   and what i really want to know   is would it decrease these terrorist acts   say for every death by a terrorist we kill 5 of their people.   maybe they would stop killing infidels if they were directly causeing the death of 5 or 8 or whatever amount of their own people         
do you guys think it will work????
   honestly i dont think it would work    it could   but i think the terrorists are soo fucked in the head    nothing will work

Well alright, glad you understand it, is all. But between you and I, I would say deep down inside, the people making those demands really don't care about their '8 prisoners' we have. They're just using them as tools, because we don't have anything they want of theirs to make a demand.. so they just pick their own people, to an extent. (They may have positions in their ranks and all, but they could be replaced easily).

But whatever the outcome is, remember that we, and probably (deep down) the government, actually cares about the life(s) of the people that do die from them.

Because we do care, we don't do that kind of stuff like they do. (The whole secret torture subject is a different story)

However just remember, freedom isnt perfect.. and it comes with a price, military or civilian life. Needlessly or not. Thats just the way things are right now. Even though we'd like them not to be.

And.. some food for thought, that girl, and any other news reporter, journalist, or any civilian, is over their on their own accord, fully aware and fully breifed of the dangers and possibilities combined with common sense and possible consequences. Infact, American civilians are a very seeked out target, moreso than soldiers.. so I'm sure if they are associated or connected with news media (american) or something, they are certaintly given prior warning.

So, shes on their on her own accord basically, fully aware. If she felt she was willing to take the risk and accept the consequences, then (if she dies), I'm sure she'll get the respect and whatever else, from her peers for doing what she was said to be doing (letting people know what iraqi's think was it?)..

Maybe she was targeted because of that.. because the 'terrorists' dont ever want to see a free iraq, because they want a safe haven... they want to be in control, they want us Americans out, they loved saddam because saddam allowed those terrorists to keep on trucking, because they both hated America. Terrorists, Saddam Loyalist, they're all hateful of the fact when (if) Iraq is free, and has an Army to defend itself against them and push them out even when we leave..


Maybe they're really losing steam if they have to go so far as to behead a hostage trying to put out word of what honest Iraqi's think/belive/want to say


If she dies, it definately wont go unnoticed. But again, remember why the higher ups will never allow a deal.

(And I dont think even if he was an officer Trow, low ranking, something like this wouldn't get to the UCMJ level.. now if he were a high ranking, yeah... edit: but I guess it depends on your superiors and branch of service)

Last edited by Ryan_Mercury (2006-01-20 08:53:21)