Gay Marriage in California

2015-09-24 07:22:25

#651

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|6792|Moscow, Russia

globefish23 wrote:
Shahter wrote:
gays can have children, but there are good reasons to believe that they are not well suited for that.
Homosexuals can still very naturally and traditionally create their own offspring.
No organic defects there.

sexuality is not totally organic. it's very complex thing, with genetic, psychological and social aspects to it, and genetic aspect is not the problem here - it's the rest.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2015-09-24 12:34:40

#652

uziq: Member; +492|3468

Shahter wrote:
globefish23 wrote:
Shahter wrote:
gays can have children, but there are good reasons to believe that they are not well suited for that.
Homosexuals can still very naturally and traditionally create their own offspring.
No organic defects there.
sexuality is not totally organic. it's very complex thing, with genetic, psychological and social aspects to it, and genetic aspect is not the problem here - it's the rest.

you talk about this shit like jay. 'normal' and 'problems'. what's not normal about it? what's problematic about it? many (mammalian) populations seem to exhibit homosexuality in a certain small segment. it seems as natural as plants inclining towards the sun. what is the problem with homosexuality in a social or societal context? is homosexuality contributing towards a decline in birth-rates? please. get a clue.

notice what sort of person exhibits worries or thinly veiled prejudices about gays. working class white guys concerned about the 'crisis' of the great white male and his masculinity, and paranoid Russians who think the decadent west is bringing mother Russia to its knees. what a bunch of egotistically conflicted oddballs.

Last edited by uziq (2015-09-24 12:36:36)

2015-09-24 13:37:10

#653

jsnipy: ...; +3,276|6539|...

The illusion of something being "unnatural", result of man's ego ... everything is natural (unless ur an alien)

2015-09-24 22:36:16

#654

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|6792|Moscow, Russia

uziq wrote:
Shahter wrote:
globefish23 wrote:
Homosexuals can still very naturally and traditionally create their own offspring.
No organic defects there.
sexuality is not totally organic. it's very complex thing, with genetic, psychological and social aspects to it, and genetic aspect is not the problem here - it's the rest.
you talk about this shit like jay.

no. i'm obviously not capable of speaking like him - my english is a lot worse, for obvious reasons.

'normal'

never said the word.

and 'problems'.

well, yeah. there may be.

what's not normal about it?

nothing. it happens in nature.

what's problematic about it?

it fucks up ones reproductive function.

many (mammalian) populations seem to exhibit homosexuality in a certain small segment. it seems as natural as plants inclining towards the sun.

the exact biological and/or evolutionary function of homosexuality is not clear yet, but i would agree with this mostly.

what is the problem with homosexuality in a social or societal context?

there are good reasons to suspect that it might be "socially contagious" so to say.

is homosexuality contributing towards a decline in birth-rates?

not enough data has been collected to this date to say, but it's a legitimate concern, yes.

get-a-clue yourself already.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2015-09-25 05:55:02

#655

uziq: Member; +492|3468

yes Russia's population is experiencing a demographic collapse because of all the millions of homosexuals

2015-09-25 06:05:40

#656

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6733

russian men should just stop being shit bags and put the bottle down.

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2015-09-25 09:56:52

#657

pirana6: Go Cougs!; +685|6307|Washington St.

Shahter wrote:
what is the problem with homosexuality in a social or societal context?
there are good reasons to suspect that it might be "socially contagious" so to say.

please explain what you mean

2015-09-25 11:32:35

#658

uziq: Member; +492|3468

the idea that, if you let your kids socialise with gays or let them have a presence in popular, public culture, then everyone will want to be gay. shahter seems to think that homosexuality is a fashion or perhaps a contagious miasma. it has been pretty much an anthropological constant and a fact of life for time immemorial. different cultures at different times have different attitudes to sex and construct taboos differently, that is all. admiring men was admired in its turn in some civilisations and others considered anything other than 2 minutes of dutiful missionary a sin. people who worry about these things overmuch are normally always repressed and conflicted in some way.

let your sexual energies flow freely from you. be expressive and generous in your love. let your affections and desires grant benison to the object of your gaze. stop constructing your haphazard little dams in the great stream of love. they are paltry and meagre things, structures that make a great deal of noise and bother as they crack and wash away.

kiss shahter
fuck jay
marry androoz

Last edited by uziq (2015-09-25 11:35:36)

2015-09-25 13:33:26

#659

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6788|PNW

I still haven't figured out how it's supposed to "screw up reproductive capacity." It's like he thinks that somehow, sperm and eggs become gay too and will have nothing to do with their opposite-sex counterparts. How do you even argue with that with a straight face?

I've noticed in recent years that it's been increasingly difficult to talk with my eastern buddies about things like gay rights and, for example, embarrassing Russian history or foreign policy. Either I get stonewalled, dropped like a rock, or treat like I've said something horribly insulting. Found it's easiest on friendship to simply let them wallow in their own regressive bubble.

2015-09-25 13:52:52

#660

Ultrafunkula: Hector: Ding, ding, ding, ding...; +1,975|6490|6 6 4 oh, I forget

Maybe he associates gay folk with vampirism/zombieism or whatever. Kinda like when the parasite goes magically hops from a gay to a hetero with a handshake and then you turn all fabulous within a week or so and sing Abba in the car. What would the world turn into being happy all over instead of oppressing minorities and otherwise annoying ppl.

2015-09-25 14:49:54

#661

pirana6: Go Cougs!; +685|6307|Washington St.

homosexuality according to shahter

2015-09-25 15:02:36

#662

uziq: Member; +492|3468

the CIA invented gays to infiltrate and bring down the soviet union's unbeatable army. unfortunately, there was a spill at a top secret facility and all teh gayz leaked out and contaminated the home soil. shortly thereafter the CIA invented AIDS. and the rest, folks, is history.

2015-09-25 23:28:04

#663

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6122|eXtreme to the maX

uziq wrote:
the CIA invented gays to infiltrate and bring down the soviet union's unbeatable army. unfortunately, there was a spill at a top secret facility and all teh gayz leaked out and contaminated the home soil. shortly thereafter the CIA invented AIDS. and the rest, folks, is history.

Your shit is all fucked up and retarded, and you talk like a fag.

Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!

2015-09-28 05:11:43

#664

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|6792|Moscow, Russia

uziq, unnamednewbie13, pirana6, Ultrafunkula wrote:
<here be idiotic internet memes and anecdotes>

ans then they tell you "i'd argue with you but..."

fuck off already. chill, have your head examined, do whatever, but don't come back to me unless you are capable of actual d&st.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2015-09-28 08:03:01

#665

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6788|PNW

What I get out of that is that it makes you angry how some people don't want to see entire groups of people shamelessly demonized and (violently and nonviolently) repressed because what they do is counter to the dated moral whimsy and carefully-engineered propaganda that the far-right and dwindling hyper-religious want to shove down everyone else's throats, whether or not they be willing recipients. And that liberals who would rather not treat people like that are all idiots who resort to satire and nothing else when it comes to trying to snake reason into places reason has never been.

When people say they're not convinced by your arguments, and you counter that you weren't trying to, it falls a bit flat in a place called "debate and serious talk."

2015-09-28 09:40:02

#666

coke: Aye up duck!; +440|6725|England. Stoke

Western propaganda etc.

2015-09-28 23:18:21

#667

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|6792|Moscow, Russia

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
What I get out of that is that it makes you angry

you are quite incapable of making me angry. nor are you capable of countering my arguments without putting words in my mouth. what, you actually think you have an argument there^, don't you? very well, start by finding me a place in this thread where i said that "entire groups of people" should be, for any reason, "shamelessly demonized and (violently and nonviolently) repressed".

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2015-09-29 16:49:49

#668

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +636|3736

I don't understand how the country who famously brought us lesbian teenager pop videos could become so homophobic.

2015-09-29 17:22:39

#669

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,973|6648|949

It's because being gay may be "socially contagious". In other words, gays have cooties and you may get them too.

2015-09-29 18:34:10

#670

Steve-0: Karma limited. Contact Admin to Be Promoted.; +214|3976|SL,UT

yay, the polls are working!

2015-09-30 00:30:13

#671

Surfdaddy: Post limited. Contact Admin to Be Promoted.; +2|3251

Shahter wrote:
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
What I get out of that is that it makes you angry
you are quite incapable of making me angry. nor are you capable of countering my arguments without putting words in my mouth. what, you actually think you have an argument there^, don't you? very well, start by finding me a place in this thread where i said that "entire groups of people" should be, for any reason, "shamelessly demonized and (violently and nonviolently) repressed".

Theres no argument because theres no facts. All opinion. Out with it already and stop projecting your homosexual insecurity. Just embrace that you want some wang. http://www.feelguide.com/2011/06/16/new … -impulses/

2015-09-30 06:15:46

#672

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|6792|Moscow, Russia

did anybody ask for another brainwashed idiot with more gay propaganda to post?

i don't remember. it's okay though, join the circle jerk if you like.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2015-09-30 07:20:59

#673

Pocshy2.0: Member; +23|3387

Real question though: why is it always the Russians who invoke the concept of brainwashing when it comes to dissenting opinions? Is that the form of propaganda the Russian government puts out? "All others who disagree have been brainwashed." Kind of ironic, no?

2015-09-30 08:26:15

#674

coke: Aye up duck!; +440|6725|England. Stoke

Yeah we've been brainwashed into not hating people, WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO!!!!!

We can't counter your arguments because as you usually do, you discount anything that is posted that doesn't agree with your OPINION as "brainwashed" "propaganda" etc.
Yet you never post anything of any actual substance yourself.

Last edited by coke (2015-09-30 08:28:39)

2015-09-30 08:32:23

#675

Surfdaddy: Post limited. Contact Admin to Be Promoted.; +2|3251

Shahter wrote:
did anybody ask for another brainwashed idiot with more gay propaganda to post?

i don't remember. it's okay though, join the circle jerk if you like.

Science is literally the opposite of brainwash. Read the article, then go enjoy the night of your dreams with a man that you love

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No	27%	27% - 45
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