Poll

Do you agree with the gay marriage approval in California?

Yes67%67% - 112
No27%27% - 45
I don't know0%0% - 0
Plead the fifth3%3% - 5
Other? (Please State)1%1% - 3
Total: 165
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Sorry for thread hijack, considering Ty and myself are the only kiwis here I didn't think this warranted it's own thread.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politic … nd-nastier

The first vote on the marriage equality bill passed, 80-40.  Considering this is a conscience vote and that civil union laws passed by one(?) vote only 7 or 8 years ago, that is a real pasting.  It now goes to a committee, and there are two more votes before it becomes law, estimated to be in 6-12 months time.

And back to CA:
http://www.examiner.com/article/anti-ga … r-25-years

Anti-gay activist confesses to molesting children for 25 years

Caleb Hesse, 52, is a well known anti-gay activist and former elementary school teacher. He has been charged with four lewd acts on a child. The investigation is in its early stages and incidents of abuse going back to 1987 have been reported, but that is by no means a cut off point for Hesse's abusive history and authorities are encouraging anyone with knowledge of past abuses to please contact them. Some of Hesse's victims may now be 40+ years old.

The former youth group volunteer confessed to police that he had "inappropriate" contact with children over the last three decades, with the most recent sexual abuse happening in the last week. Many of the abuses took place at summer camps hosted by the Evangelical Free Church of Yucca Valley where Hesse was an active participant and supervisor since the early 1980s.

It has been locally reported by KESQ.com that Hesse is currently being held on $2.5 million bail at Morongo Basin Jail.

Hesse's church, the Evangelical Free Church of Yucca Valley, is incredibly homophobic and requires members to actively disavow the homosexual lifestyle if they wish to remain members. Homosexual activity is taboo and the bylaws of the church say that they recognize people do have homosexual feelings -- but members are expected to not acknowledge or act on them. The church lays out specific guidelines, including that if one is a known homosexual they must prove they have lived a godly life for a minimum of 5 years. How this criteria is determined or verified has not been detailed.

The former teacher also owns the website protectmarriage.com, detailed by conservativebabylon.com, which is a front used to collect donations for the "proposition 8 defense fund." Proposition 8 was a law that amended the California constitution to specifically say that marriage is only between a man and a woman. The law was passed by a margin of over 700,000 votes, but it was subsequently deemed unconstitutional by several rulings from the California Supreme Court and Appeals courts.

Caleb Hesse's next scheduled courtroom appearance is Monday August 27, 2012.

Last edited by BVC (2012-08-29 14:20:00)

Macbeth
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Bets for the Supreme court cases? For anyone not in the know: Defense of marriage act and Proposition 8 have both made their way to the supreme court and have just finished being argued today. I am hoping for the court to be progressive on this issue. Many are worried though that DOMA will be struck down and that the supreme court will rule marriage to be a state issue instead of making any wide pronouncement like it did with Brown vs Board, and Row vs Wade.
AussieReaper
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Making it a state issue just means the GOP controlled states will ban gay marriage.

No surprise there.
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Cybargs
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AussieReaper wrote:

Making it a state issue just means the GOP controlled states will ban gay marriage.

No surprise there.
Bigger issue is federal recognition. If it's not federally recognized means gay couples can't get federal benefits as a married couple. that's why the de facto system is good in australia tbh.
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Jay
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Macbeth wrote:

Bets for the Supreme court cases? For anyone not in the know: Defense of marriage act and Proposition 8 have both made their way to the supreme court and have just finished being argued today. I am hoping for the court to be progressive on this issue. Many are worried though that DOMA will be struck down and that the supreme court will rule marriage to be a state issue instead of making any wide pronouncement like it did with Brown vs Board, and Row vs Wade.
I think the odds of that are nil. Roberts showed with obamacare that hes on the side of judicial restraint.
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lulz

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i like it how news corp is trying really hard to influence the election here.
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Jaekus
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Yeah, because a billionaire has no vested interest at all
Cybargs
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Jaekus wrote:

Yeah, because a billionaire has no vested interest at all
but the NBN is destroying free market capitalism! its a work of government socialism!
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Supreme court just ruled gay marriage to be a right and legal in every state.

Congratulations to LGBT people. They should stay on guard though. There will be a reaction against gay people the same way there was a reaction against black people after the civil rights movement.

Whenever a gay person complains about discrimination people will throw their hands up and say "you can get married, why are you still complaining?". It's just like when black people complain others say to them "segregation is over, why are you still complaing?"
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well it took the spotlight from the beheading and hotel attack
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and the pacific trade thing
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and kuwait bombings and bristol palin
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RTHKI wrote:

well it took the spotlight from the beheading and hotel attack
It's okay. They don't need gay marriage where they are going anyway.
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why is everyone on facebook thanking obama for this
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Supreme court just ruled gay marriage to be a right and legal in every state.

Congratulations to LGBT people. They should stay on guard though. There will be a reaction against gay people the same way there was a reaction against black people after the civil rights movement.

Whenever a gay person complains about discrimination people will throw their hands up and say "you can get married, why are you still complaining?". It's just like when black people complain others say to them "segregation is over, why are you still complaing?"
And they will still complain, and blame other people for their dissatisfaction, rather than knuckle down and quietly get on with their lives.
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dilbert your the king of complaining about the US instead of knuckling down and getting on with your life
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Jay
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RTHKI wrote:

why is everyone on facebook thanking obama for this
Thanks Obama
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War Man wrote:

Now polygamy, please.
Don't be fucking dense. Zoophilia and pedophilia are the next logical steps.

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