I agree, I have no idea why anyone should get locked up for life for sexually assulting children...........Such cruelty!Turquoise wrote:
It kind of makes you wonder why things like this happen, yet serial killers get much lesser sentences. Sex > murder?
A little consistency in punishments would be nice.
Sometimes, lowing, your posts really do induce a sigh of disbelief. Listen to what the man is saying. Is it right that having sex with minors is punished harder than committing serial murders?lowing wrote:
I agree, I have no idea why anyone should get locked up for life for sexually assulting children...........Such cruelty!Turquoise wrote:
It kind of makes you wonder why things like this happen, yet serial killers get much lesser sentences. Sex > murder?
A little consistency in punishments would be nice.
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Should be punished EXACTLY the same. The tragedy is NOT that this guy gets prison for life, the tragedy is that murderers often do not.mikkel wrote:
Sometimes, lowing, your posts really do induce a sigh of disbelief. Listen to what the man is saying. Is it right that having sex with minors is punished harder than committing serial murders?lowing wrote:
I agree, I have no idea why anyone should get locked up for life for sexually assaulting children...........Such cruelty!Turquoise wrote:
It kind of makes you wonder why things like this happen, yet serial killers get much lesser sentences. Sex > murder?
A little consistency in punishments would be nice.
sex with children I am sorry does not > murder
sex with children, should = murder
I find it hard to believe some of the things that you guys say on here. Shit like "make them pick up broken glass in the desert" or just to kill them. What the fuck is wrong with you people? I for one am greatly opposed to the death penalty, and pretty much to extended jail sentences in general. Is it right to give this guy a ridiculous sentence just to make some other people feel a little better? Sure it is awful what this guy did, but can you imagine what that must be like? Imagine your entire life up until this point (assuming most of you are 20-25ish), and you have spent the entire time of it in a tiny cell with no freedoms. Now multiply that by three or four. Can you even imagine that miserable fuck existence? If you ask me, nobody deserves that. I don't care if they raped and killed a group of people, ten years in a hellish prison seems it would be enough to learn a lesson. This country has too man Christians, and they are fucking ruthless when it comes to handing out sentences. That idiot judge should be taken out of power.
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God I hate liberalspyscofrawg wrote:
I find it hard to believe some of the things that you guys say on here. Shit like "make them pick up broken glass in the desert" or just to kill them. What the fuck is wrong with you people? I for one am greatly opposed to the death penalty, and pretty much to extended jail sentences in general. Is it right to give this guy a ridiculous sentence just to make some other people feel a little better? Sure it is awful what this guy did, but can you imagine what that must be like? Imagine your entire life up until this point (assuming most of you are 20-25ish), and you have spent the entire time of it in a tiny cell with no freedoms. Now multiply that by three or four. Can you even imagine that miserable fuck existence? If you ask me, nobody deserves that. I don't care if they raped and killed a group of people, ten years in a hellish prison seems it would be enough to learn a lesson. This country has too man Christians, and they are fucking ruthless when it comes to handing out sentences. That idiot judge should be taken out of power.
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I agree, time spent incarcerated is a cruel punishment.........to us taxpayers who provide cable television and luxuries to these animals. Kill em fast, spare their sanity and our wallets.pyscofrawg wrote:
I find it hard to believe some of the things that you guys say on here. Shit like "make them pick up broken glass in the desert" or just to kill them. What the fuck is wrong with you people? I for one am greatly opposed to the death penalty, and pretty much to extended jail sentences in general. Is it right to give this guy a ridiculous sentence just to make some other people feel a little better? Sure it is awful what this guy did, but can you imagine what that must be like? Imagine your entire life up until this point (assuming most of you are 20-25ish), and you have spent the entire time of it in a tiny cell with no freedoms. Now multiply that by three or four. Can you even imagine that miserable fuck existence? If you ask me, nobody deserves that. I don't care if they raped and killed a group of people, ten years in a hellish prison seems it would be enough to learn a lesson. This country has too man Christians, and they are fucking ruthless when it comes to handing out sentences. That idiot judge should be taken out of power.
Malloy must go
God I hate people who use the liberal tag as though all liberal minded people share the same opinions on every single issue.lowing wrote:
God I hate liberals :roleyes:pyscofrawg wrote:
I find it hard to believe some of the things that you guys say on here. Shit like "make them pick up broken glass in the desert" or just to kill them. What the fuck is wrong with you people? I for one am greatly opposed to the death penalty, and pretty much to extended jail sentences in general. Is it right to give this guy a ridiculous sentence just to make some other people feel a little better? Sure it is awful what this guy did, but can you imagine what that must be like? Imagine your entire life up until this point (assuming most of you are 20-25ish), and you have spent the entire time of it in a tiny cell with no freedoms. Now multiply that by three or four. Can you even imagine that miserable fuck existence? If you ask me, nobody deserves that. I don't care if they raped and killed a group of people, ten years in a hellish prison seems it would be enough to learn a lesson. This country has too man Christians, and they are fucking ruthless when it comes to handing out sentences. That idiot judge should be taken out of power.
Are you saying you like my idea?Braddock wrote:
God I hate people who use the liberal tag as though all liberal minded people share the same opinions on every single issue.lowing wrote:
God I hate liberals :roleyes:pyscofrawg wrote:
I find it hard to believe some of the things that you guys say on here. Shit like "make them pick up broken glass in the desert" or just to kill them. What the fuck is wrong with you people? I for one am greatly opposed to the death penalty, and pretty much to extended jail sentences in general. Is it right to give this guy a ridiculous sentence just to make some other people feel a little better? Sure it is awful what this guy did, but can you imagine what that must be like? Imagine your entire life up until this point (assuming most of you are 20-25ish), and you have spent the entire time of it in a tiny cell with no freedoms. Now multiply that by three or four. Can you even imagine that miserable fuck existence? If you ask me, nobody deserves that. I don't care if they raped and killed a group of people, ten years in a hellish prison seems it would be enough to learn a lesson. This country has too man Christians, and they are fucking ruthless when it comes to handing out sentences. That idiot judge should be taken out of power.
Malloy must go
Which is exactly what Turq said.....................lowing wrote:
Should be punished EXACTLY the same. The tragedy is NOT that this guy gets prison for life, the tragedy is that murderers often do not.mikkel wrote:
Sometimes, lowing, your posts really do induce a sigh of disbelief. Listen to what the man is saying. Is it right that having sex with minors is punished harder than committing serial murders?lowing wrote:
I agree, I have no idea why anyone should get locked up for life for sexually assaulting children...........Such cruelty!
sex with children I am sorry does not > murder
sex with children, should = murder
I have conflicted, and in many ways contradictory, opinions on crime and punishment. I have no problem with tough sentences or bad prison conditions for serious criminals and although I don't fully support State sanctioned execution I would probably personally kill anyone who raped or killed a family member or loved one. I would not have what I would consider 'liberal' views on punishment.deeznutz1245 wrote:
Are you saying you like my idea?Braddock wrote:
God I hate people who use the liberal tag as though all liberal minded people share the same opinions on every single issue.lowing wrote:
God I hate liberals :roleyes:
nooooooooZombieVampire! wrote:
Which is exactly what Turq said.....................lowing wrote:
Should be punished EXACTLY the same. The tragedy is NOT that this guy gets prison for life, the tragedy is that murderers often do not.mikkel wrote:
Sometimes, lowing, your posts really do induce a sigh of disbelief. Listen to what the man is saying. Is it right that having sex with minors is punished harder than committing serial murders?
sex with children I am sorry does not > murder
sex with children, should = murder
"It kind of makes you wonder why things like this happen, yet serial killers get much lesser sentences. Sex > murder?
A little consistency in punishments would be nice."
this is what he said.
Uhhhhhhhh Braddock, THIS is a liberal view point.........SorryBraddock wrote:
God I hate people who use the liberal tag as though all liberal minded people share the same opinions on every single issue.lowing wrote:
God I hate liberals :roleyes:pyscofrawg wrote:
I find it hard to believe some of the things that you guys say on here. Shit like "make them pick up broken glass in the desert" or just to kill them. What the fuck is wrong with you people? I for one am greatly opposed to the death penalty, and pretty much to extended jail sentences in general. Is it right to give this guy a ridiculous sentence just to make some other people feel a little better? Sure it is awful what this guy did, but can you imagine what that must be like? Imagine your entire life up until this point (assuming most of you are 20-25ish), and you have spent the entire time of it in a tiny cell with no freedoms. Now multiply that by three or four. Can you even imagine that miserable fuck existence? If you ask me, nobody deserves that. I don't care if they raped and killed a group of people, ten years in a hellish prison seems it would be enough to learn a lesson. This country has too man Christians, and they are fucking ruthless when it comes to handing out sentences. That idiot judge should be taken out of power.
I find it amusing how when you disagree with the most violent or serious outcome of a certain situation on moral grounds, you're instantly labeled a liberal. It's as if anything measured is the devil's work.
I won't hesitate to say that I find child molestation to be a much less serious offense than murder, and one that shouldn't be punished by life in prison in all but the most extreme cases.
I won't hesitate to say that I find child molestation to be a much less serious offense than murder, and one that shouldn't be punished by life in prison in all but the most extreme cases.
Would that extreme case involve YOUR child, perchance??mikkel wrote:
I find it amusing how when you disagree with the most violent or serious outcome of a certain situation on moral grounds, you're instantly labeled a liberal. It's as if anything measured is the devil's work.
I won't hesitate to say that I find child molestation to be a much less serious offense than murder, and one that shouldn't be punished by life in prison in all but the most extreme cases.
Yes but you use the term 'liberals' in every argument as though all liberals share completely the same opinions...shall I presume you agree with George Bush on every single issue because you are conservative?lowing wrote:
Uhhhhhhhh Braddock, THIS is a liberal view point.........SorryBraddock wrote:
God I hate people who use the liberal tag as though all liberal minded people share the same opinions on every single issue.lowing wrote:
God I hate liberals :roleyes:
Thankfully, if this was to happen to my child, I'd have a jury of hopefully unbiased people, a steady-minded judge, and sensible legislation handling the case. The idea of a person being executed or spending life in prison for child abuse is too absurd in my mind for me to ever support it, even if it was my child.lowing wrote:
Would that extreme case involve YOUR child, perchance??mikkel wrote:
I find it amusing how when you disagree with the most violent or serious outcome of a certain situation on moral grounds, you're instantly labeled a liberal. It's as if anything measured is the devil's work.
I won't hesitate to say that I find child molestation to be a much less serious offense than murder, and one that shouldn't be punished by life in prison in all but the most extreme cases.
What's with this typical attempt to discredit peoples' ideals by assuming that they would betray them?
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I think it is a safe assumption that you are not a father. Child molestation, deserves nothing less than life imprisionment, the fact that this is harsher than what you would get for murder merely states that we are not hard enough on our murderers.mikkel wrote:
Thankfully, if this was to happen to my child, I'd have a jury of hopefully unbiased people, a steady-minded judge, and sensible legislation handling the case. The idea of a person being executed or spending life in prison for child abuse is too absurd in my mind for me to ever support it, even if it was my child.lowing wrote:
Would that extreme case involve YOUR child, perchance??mikkel wrote:
I find it amusing how when you disagree with the most violent or serious outcome of a certain situation on moral grounds, you're instantly labeled a liberal. It's as if anything measured is the devil's work.
I won't hesitate to say that I find child molestation to be a much less serious offense than murder, and one that shouldn't be punished by life in prison in all but the most extreme cases.
What's with this typical attempt to discredit peoples' ideals by assuming that they would betray them?
Braddock those that argue with in this forum ARE liberals........Liberals do:Braddock wrote:
Yes but you use the term 'liberals' in every argument as though all liberals share completely the same opinions...shall I presume you agree with George Bush on every single issue because you are conservative?lowing wrote:
Uhhhhhhhh Braddock, THIS is a liberal view point.........SorryBraddock wrote:
God I hate people who use the liberal tag as though all liberal minded people share the same opinions on every single issue.
1. want socialism to prevail, and SHARE the wealth.
2. abolish individualism and practice equal results over equal opportunity.
3. want the govt. to control my finances, my education, my retirement my healthcare.
4. want to punish achievers in the form of taxing them harsher than non-achievers, instead of EQUALLY.
or am I wrong about any of this?
Or by some STRANGE CHANCE, they might be moderates?lowing wrote:
Braddock those that argue with in this forum ARE liberals........Liberals do:Braddock wrote:
Yes but you use the term 'liberals' in every argument as though all liberals share completely the same opinions...shall I presume you agree with George Bush on every single issue because you are conservative?lowing wrote:
Uhhhhhhhh Braddock, THIS is a liberal view point.........Sorry
1. want socialism to prevail, and SHARE the wealth.
2. abolish individualism and practice equal results over equal opportunity.
3. want the govt. to control my finances, my education, my retirement my healthcare.
4. want to punish achievers in the form of taxing them harsher than non-achievers, instead of EQUALLY.
or am I wrong about any of this?
..............and you think the post where lengthy prison time for child molestation, and rant on about cruelty toward such people, and not mention the victim is a "moderate" viewpoint???Poseidon wrote:
Or by some STRANGE CHANCE, they might be moderates?lowing wrote:
Braddock those that argue with in this forum ARE liberals........Liberals do:Braddock wrote:
Yes but you use the term 'liberals' in every argument as though all liberals share completely the same opinions...shall I presume you agree with George Bush on every single issue because you are conservative?
1. want socialism to prevail, and SHARE the wealth.
2. abolish individualism and practice equal results over equal opportunity.
3. want the govt. to control my finances, my education, my retirement my healthcare.
4. want to punish achievers in the form of taxing them harsher than non-achievers, instead of EQUALLY.
or am I wrong about any of this?
There are mandatory sentencing guidelines for various crimes, which include parole eligibility after a certain percentage of the term is served. As life in prison without the possibility of parole isn't a sentencing option for this type of crime, stacking smaller sentences effectively makes the term life without the possibility of parole.rammunition wrote:
yeah, it seems more tough, its as if the guy is going to live for 4000 yearsAgent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Exactly. They should have just said it was life in prison without the possibility of parole.rammunition wrote:
Its kind of stupid. Why give him such a ridiculously long sentence. I understand that they don't want him out of prison, but giving him something like 80 years would have been enough to keep him there indefinitely. When a sentence like 4060 years comes out, it makes the judicial system look childish.
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I agree. Waste of time and money to all concerned to have them in prison if they can't get out.ATG wrote:
Anyone proven guilty via dna and sentenced to more years than they are expected to live should be executed.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Worse than killing them?deeznutz1245 wrote:
Because if you fuck children you are worse than anything.Turquoise wrote:
It kind of makes you wonder why things like this happen, yet serial killers get much lesser sentences. Sex > murder?
A little consistency in punishments would be nice.
I would say murder is far worse.lowing wrote:
Should be punished EXACTLY the same. The tragedy is NOT that this guy gets prison for life, the tragedy is that murderers often do not.mikkel wrote:
Sometimes, lowing, your posts really do induce a sigh of disbelief. Listen to what the man is saying. Is it right that having sex with minors is punished harder than committing serial murders?lowing wrote:
I agree, I have no idea why anyone should get locked up for life for sexually assaulting children...........Such cruelty!
sex with children I am sorry does not > murder
sex with children, should = murder
The consequences should be the same as murder..........your ass should be put down like a fuckin dog.Turquoise wrote:
I would say murder is far worse.lowing wrote:
Should be punished EXACTLY the same. The tragedy is NOT that this guy gets prison for life, the tragedy is that murderers often do not.mikkel wrote:
Sometimes, lowing, your posts really do induce a sigh of disbelief. Listen to what the man is saying. Is it right that having sex with minors is punished harder than committing serial murders?
sex with children I am sorry does not > murder
sex with children, should = murder