No you won't. Since you are a responsable citizen you will call the intruder before shooting, warn him of tresspassing, and then try to take him out without killing him. But since it is dark, at night, and you were asleep nobody can hold it against you when you kill the guy.DBBrinson1 wrote:
I will still shoot to kill.
Stats or it doesn't happen, Darko.ZombieVampire! wrote:
Statistically, it's about as probable.
Personally, I would be willing to risk it. It's more likely for me to be crushed by a falling jumbo-jet than for that to be the case.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
There are no stats, because neither has happened.
Find me one example where a person has randomly broken into the house of someone they're attempting to kill and are holding a grudge against where the person wasn't aware beforehand how determined the person was to see them dead.
Find me one example where a person has randomly broken into the house of someone they're attempting to kill and are holding a grudge against where the person wasn't aware beforehand how determined the person was to see them dead.
Lowing, I feel like the only backbone you have in that argument is the fact that Parker has done drugs before.
it happens semi-frequently where disgruntled employees return to shoot up the office, and nobody had any idea how unstable they wereZombieVampire! wrote:
There are no stats, because neither has happened.
Find me one example where a person has randomly broken into the house of someone they're attempting to kill and are holding a grudge against where the person wasn't aware beforehand how determined the person was to see them dead.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080625/ap_ … t_shooting
people on the ground have been killed by falling aircraft as well
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c … 227S48.DTL
of course, you have a much better chance of being hit by lightning than being involved in either circumstance, but it does happen.
edit: and aliens would know better than to break into peoples houses...
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Poseidon, you're missing the point - it's not that Parker, like me before him, has done drugs, it's that we are "crack heads" - well, that is, in lowing-world we are.Poseidon wrote:
Lowing, I feel like the only backbone you have in that argument is the fact that Parker has done drugs before.
Good ol' bichromatic lowing.
you have already proven your ignorance with handguns, by owning a 9mm taurus.lowing wrote:
1. LOL, if ya don't give a shit, then why bring it up?
why would i care what piece of shit you buy next lol
well, i dont run around trying to play billy bad ass, the neighborhood protector.lowing wrote:
2. ok so ya might, and plays to my responsibility with them................ how?
lollowing wrote:
3. I know how people get bank loans.........I asked you how you got your money, parents, or drug dealing?
i went to a bank
oh, she did.lowing wrote:
4. Too bad she didn't harp on why not to be a drug dealer, I bet she is soooooo proud.
and now that you mention it, she is REALLY proud of me. not many people have done the shit that i have, and turned into a success afterwards.
me too.lowing wrote:
5. Neh, actually my family is proud of me and the work I do.. Ya see, everything Ihave and made has been done legally.
i dont make illegal products lol.
im not a drug dealer, thanks for playing though.lowing wrote:
6. so that is how it is? Drug dealers are more responsible than aircraft mechanics? Oooooook, perhaps you are in a drug induced fantasyland now?
i dont give a shit if you are a grease monkey for pilots. i was offered a job like that here in st louis, in 2001.....i laughed at them, cause that dirty shit is beneath me.
kind of like you.....
ssssssoooooo, its the bears you fear breaking in and stealing your "things"?lowing wrote:
7. Live in the moutains, nearest nieghbors are several hundred yards away separated by woods......So no need for you worry, unless you were inclined to break in.
i keep a lawyer on retainer for my businesses. same with an accountantlowing wrote:
8. Funny, how you claim to be a responsible drug abuser and dealer, ( while owning guns) and still feel the need to keep a lawyer on retainer in case you get busted...........No need to worry about how my family feels about me crackhead, you may wanna think of your own.
lowing, if i was such a bad person, the federal government would have saw fit to deny my FFL. thats right, in another month or so, it will be legal for me to deal GUNSlowing wrote:
9. LOL, see 8. your argument about how responsible you are while admitting to drug use and sales, all the while playing with guns is about as funny a pile of bullshit as I have ever read in here. Please do not stop telling me all about how responsible a crackhead you are.. I am lovin' it.
oh, and after that, its on to a class III for me
I think usmarine would put it best when he said:Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Poseidon, you're missing the point - it's not that Parker, like me before him, has done drugs, it's that we are "crack heads" - well, that is, in lowing-world we are.Poseidon wrote:
Lowing, I feel like the only backbone you have in that argument is the fact that Parker has done drugs before.
Good ol' bichromatic lowing.
"lulz"
Drugs are fun.
And who oh why lowing would you rather kill a man than let him steal your TV (when you have home insurance)?
Some kind of tribalistic initiation "ugga i kill man ugga ugga me alpha male ugga"?
Pathetic.
And who oh why lowing would you rather kill a man than let him steal your TV (when you have home insurance)?
Some kind of tribalistic initiation "ugga i kill man ugga ugga me alpha male ugga"?
Pathetic.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
I missed this the first time round.Parker wrote:
lowing wrote:
7. Live in the moutains, nearest nieghbors are several hundred yards away separated by woods......So no need for you worry, unless you were inclined to break in.
a) Why am I not surprised?
b) lowing, if that is true, and I actually think it is, please don't ever preach about 'how the urban poor should get off their fat asses' ever again (and yeah, I know you never used those exact words) - talk about stuff you actually have direct day-to-day experience of and I'll be happy to listen, otherwise, please keep quiet.
How can you randomly break into a house of someone they are attempting to kill? I'd kinda think that they'd know that the person lives there.ZombieVampire! wrote:
There are no stats, because neither has happened.
Find me one example where a person has randomly broken into the house of someone they're attempting to kill and are holding a grudge against where the person wasn't aware beforehand how determined the person was to see them dead.
I'm not gonna sit idle pondering what stranger is doing in my home and what his/her intentions are? If he's in my home, it isn't because he walked in through an open window. He's all ready committed a forcible felony. What, do you think I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt he's not willing to take it any farther? Read your newspapers the crimes are there, the burden of proof is on you. The legislature of my great state and the Supreme Law of the land has all ready ruled. And they ruled in favor of the citizen instead of the criminal.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
It works because it disrupts muscle signals, not because of pain. It does something like 20 pulses a second, which causes the muscles to lock... I dont think you can really withstand thatGod Save the Queen wrote:
Ive never met or heard of anyone ever able to withstand a stun gun.
Ummmm, why are you saying this as if it were in the past, he has already admitted to heavy drug use in the present. Mr. responsibleScorpion0x17 wrote:
Poseidon, you're missing the point - it's not that Parker, like me before him, has done drugs, it's that we are "crack heads" - well, that is, in lowing-world we are.Poseidon wrote:
Lowing, I feel like the only backbone you have in that argument is the fact that Parker has done drugs before.
Good ol' bichromatic lowing.
That still doesn't make him a "crack head" - do you even know what a crack head is?lowing wrote:
Ummmm, why are you saying this as if it were in the past, he has already admitted to heavy drug use in the present. Mr. responsibleScorpion0x17 wrote:
Poseidon, you're missing the point - it's not that Parker, like me before him, has done drugs, it's that we are "crack heads" - well, that is, in lowing-world we are.Poseidon wrote:
Lowing, I feel like the only backbone you have in that argument is the fact that Parker has done drugs before.
Good ol' bichromatic lowing.
Parker - you a crack head?
he injects heroin into his eyeballs?lowing wrote:
he has already admitted to heavy drug use
Which isn't someone's house, and which they probably wouldn't do after spending time in prison/mental institution.S.Lythberg wrote:
it happens semi-frequently where disgruntled employees return to shoot up the office, and nobody had any idea how unstable they wereZombieVampire! wrote:
There are no stats, because neither has happened.
Find me one example where a person has randomly broken into the house of someone they're attempting to kill and are holding a grudge against where the person wasn't aware beforehand how determined the person was to see them dead.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080625/ap_ … t_shooting
I'm so glad I can get off that on a technicality too: I did say jumbo jet, after all.S.Lythberg wrote:
people on the ground have been killed by falling aircraft as well
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c … 227S48.DTL
Lightning doesn't necessarily kill you.S.Lythberg wrote:
of course, you have a much better chance of being hit by lightning than being involved in either circumstance, but it does happen.
Not if they're Marxist.S.Lythberg wrote:
edit: and aliens would know better than to break into peoples houses...
They were ruling on firearms, not on whether you ought choose to use a guaranteed effective stun weapon if you had such a weapon, which is what you say you wouldn't use.DBBrinson1 wrote:
I'm not gonna sit idle pondering what stranger is doing in my home and what his/her intentions are? If he's in my home, it isn't because he walked in through an open window. He's all ready committed a forcible felony. What, do you think I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt he's not willing to take it any farther? Read your newspapers the crimes are there, the burden of proof is on you. The legislature of my great state and the Supreme Law of the land has all ready ruled. And they ruled in favor of the citizen instead of the criminal.
1...Don't expect that you would..............yet, you bring it up.Parker wrote:
you have already proven your ignorance with handguns, by owning a 9mm taurus.lowing wrote:
1. LOL, if ya don't give a shit, then why bring it up?
why would i care what piece of shit you buy next lolwell, i dont run around trying to play billy bad ass, the neighborhood protector.lowing wrote:
2. ok so ya might, and plays to my responsibility with them................ how?lollowing wrote:
3. I know how people get bank loans.........I asked you how you got your money, parents, or drug dealing?
i went to a bankoh, she did.lowing wrote:
4. Too bad she didn't harp on why not to be a drug dealer, I bet she is soooooo proud.
and now that you mention it, she is REALLY proud of me. not many people have done the shit that i have, and turned into a success afterwards.me too.lowing wrote:
5. Neh, actually my family is proud of me and the work I do.. Ya see, everything Ihave and made has been done legally.
i dont make illegal products lol.im not a drug dealer, thanks for playing though.lowing wrote:
6. so that is how it is? Drug dealers are more responsible than aircraft mechanics? Oooooook, perhaps you are in a drug induced fantasyland now?
i dont give a shit if you are a grease monkey for pilots. i was offered a job like that here in st louis, in 2001.....i laughed at them, cause that dirty shit is beneath me.
kind of like you.....ssssssoooooo, its the bears you fear breaking in and stealing your "things"?lowing wrote:
7. Live in the moutains, nearest nieghbors are several hundred yards away separated by woods......So no need for you worry, unless you were inclined to break in.i keep a lawyer on retainer for my businesses. same with an accountantlowing wrote:
8. Funny, how you claim to be a responsible drug abuser and dealer, ( while owning guns) and still feel the need to keep a lawyer on retainer in case you get busted...........No need to worry about how my family feels about me crackhead, you may wanna think of your own.lowing, if i was such a bad person, the federal government would have saw fit to deny my FFL. thats right, in another month or so, it will be legal for me to deal GUNSlowing wrote:
9. LOL, see 8. your argument about how responsible you are while admitting to drug use and sales, all the while playing with guns is about as funny a pile of bullshit as I have ever read in here. Please do not stop telling me all about how responsible a crackhead you are.. I am lovin' it.
oh, and after that, its on to a class III for me
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/ … uzi009.jpg
2. Ummmm, please point out in the thread where "I run around playing billy bad ass the neighborhood protector". I said,I do not care who or if criminals get killed in the process of committing a felony. Then I said I would protect my home from such an intruder.Nothing more nothing less.
3. Oh ok, just checking
4. Well, only a mother could love her little drug dealer I suppose. I will bet Dahlmer's mom loved him as well
5. Nope, you sold it and use it. How responsible of you.
6. This is a lie, you are not an A&P ( I assume since you never claimed to be) and therefore were not offered a job as one. you need to be licensed to be an aircraft mechanic at an airline. If you have ever flown, your welcome.
7. Nope, not bears, I am not all to worried about break ins, all I said is I would defend against them.
8. Ahhh a business lawyer who happens to be well versed in criminal law such as possession and distribution of illegal drugs....smart, very smart.
9. I wonder if you would be getting your FFL if they knew of your extra curricular activities past an present......I think we both know the answer to that one.
Truth be known, I would lay my money on the notion that he has tried it.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
That still doesn't make him a "crack head" - do you even know what a crack head is?lowing wrote:
Ummmm, why are you saying this as if it were in the past, he has already admitted to heavy drug use in the present. Mr. responsibleScorpion0x17 wrote:
Poseidon, you're missing the point - it's not that Parker, like me before him, has done drugs, it's that we are "crack heads" - well, that is, in lowing-world we are.
Good ol' bichromatic lowing.
Parker - you a crack head?
I moved into the country a year and a half ago, I am 42, please stop acting like because I live in the mountains now, that I grew up in a bubble. That is a weak argument.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
I missed this the first time round.Parker wrote:
lowing wrote:
7. Live in the moutains, nearest nieghbors are several hundred yards away separated by woods......So no need for you worry, unless you were inclined to break in.
a) Why am I not surprised?
b) lowing, if that is true, and I actually think it is, please don't ever preach about 'how the urban poor should get off their fat asses' ever again (and yeah, I know you never used those exact words) - talk about stuff you actually have direct day-to-day experience of and I'll be happy to listen, otherwise, please keep quiet.
and there are people thsat live in urban areas that are not poor just like there are poor people that live in rural areas, both groups should take steps to improve their lives.
Give me one good substantial reason I should use a stun gun over a firearm.ZombieVampire! wrote:
They were ruling on firearms, not on whether you ought choose to use a guaranteed effective stun weapon if you had such a weapon, which is what you say you wouldn't use.DBBrinson1 wrote:
I'm not gonna sit idle pondering what stranger is doing in my home and what his/her intentions are? If he's in my home, it isn't because he walked in through an open window. He's all ready committed a forcible felony. What, do you think I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt he's not willing to take it any farther? Read your newspapers the crimes are there, the burden of proof is on you. The legislature of my great state and the Supreme Law of the land has all ready ruled. And they ruled in favor of the citizen instead of the criminal.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
LMAO!!!!.......yer right, I should let my self be a victim and get walked on by the criminal element of society so to be sure THEY don't get hurt....god I hate liberalsFatherTed wrote:
Drugs are fun.
And who oh why lowing would you rather kill a man than let him steal your TV (when you have home insurance)?
Some kind of tribalistic initiation "ugga i kill man ugga ugga me alpha male ugga"?
Pathetic.
Last edited by lowing (2008-07-05 22:52:45)
wait a minute, i thought the pt92 was about as good as an actual beretta.Parker wrote:
you have already proven your ignorance with handguns, by owning a 9mm taurus.lowing wrote:
1. LOL, if ya don't give a shit, then why bring it up?
why would i care what piece of shit you buy next lol
oh and by the way, don't bother making posts directed at lowing.wikipedia wrote:
In 1980, after Italian arms manufacturer Beretta had completed its contracts to produce firearms for Brazil's military, Taurus purchased Beretta's São Paulo manufacturing plant along with the tooling, technical drawings, and work force necessary to produce several different pistol designs.
i smoke weed.lowing wrote:
Truth be known, I would lay my money on the notion that he has tried it.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
That still doesn't make him a "crack head" - do you even know what a crack head is?lowing wrote:
Ummmm, why are you saying this as if it were in the past, he has already admitted to heavy drug use in the present. Mr. responsible
Parker - you a crack head?
when i was younger and irresponsible i ate LSD.
thats about it for me
oh, and the heroin in the eye thing lol
LOL why is that, because I will respond to them??Marinejuana wrote:
wait a minute, i thought the pt92 was about as good as an actual beretta.Parker wrote:
you have already proven your ignorance with handguns, by owning a 9mm taurus.lowing wrote:
1. LOL, if ya don't give a shit, then why bring it up?
why would i care what piece of shit you buy next loloh and by the way, don't bother making posts directed at lowing.wikipedia wrote:
In 1980, after Italian arms manufacturer Beretta had completed its contracts to produce firearms for Brazil's military, Taurus purchased Beretta's São Paulo manufacturing plant along with the tooling, technical drawings, and work force necessary to produce several different pistol designs.
It doesn't kill the person.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Give me one good substantial reason I should use a stun gun over a firearm.ZombieVampire! wrote:
They were ruling on firearms, not on whether you ought choose to use a guaranteed effective stun weapon if you had such a weapon, which is what you say you wouldn't use.DBBrinson1 wrote:
I'm not gonna sit idle pondering what stranger is doing in my home and what his/her intentions are? If he's in my home, it isn't because he walked in through an open window. He's all ready committed a forcible felony. What, do you think I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt he's not willing to take it any farther? Read your newspapers the crimes are there, the burden of proof is on you. The legislature of my great state and the Supreme Law of the land has all ready ruled. And they ruled in favor of the citizen instead of the criminal.