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The mainstream production car that averages over 70mpg is now a reality. Here, we've looked at the 10 most economical cars on sale in Britain - and know what? Not a single one does less than 65 to the gallon...

    * GALLERY: the 10 most economical cars on sale

SEAT Ibiza Ecomotive, 74.3mpg
SEAT Ibiza Ecomotive (Image © SEAT)

The Spanish company's tidy three-door supermini shoots straight to the top of our fuel-efficiency chart, courtesy of well-judged aero mods and an incredibly economical 1.4-litre turbodiesel engine. Gear ratios normally seen on intercontinental trains, plus tweaks here and there to reduce friction, boost economy to a remarkable 74.3mpg. Yet don't think it's slug-like. It still hits 60mph in 12.8 seconds and goes on to 109mph. When has economical driving ever been this satisfying? It even gets air con as standard, for £10,995 all-in. The Ibiza will be replaced in 2008, so there's even potential there to haggle dealers down from that bargain-tastic list price.

    * More images of the SEAT Ibiza Ecomotive from Live Search

Volkswagen Polo BlueMotion, 74.3mpg
Volkswagen Polo BlueMotion (Image © VW)

The Polo achieves exactly the same fuel returns as the SEAT, and also beat it to market. So why isn't it top? Because of the small matter of over £1k extra on the asking price. And a lack of standard air con. Yes, we know it's a Volkswagen, and it has better-quality plastics inside, and a keyfob that shopkeepers in Mayfair won't get sniffy about. But really, they're the same car underneath, and feel little different to drive. Fuel economy is just as much about saving money as it is about saving cash: therefore, if the Polo is for you, hot-foot it right down to your local SEAT dealer.

    * Driven: VW Polo Bluemotion
    * Watch the video roadtest of the VW Polo Bluemotion

MINI Cooper D, 72.4mpg
MINI Cooper D (Image © BMW)

BMW's EfficientDynamics programme has extended down to the MINI with dramatic effect. It's now the most economical car the company produces, with 72.4mpg attainable from its 1.6-litre diesel engine. Tricks such as automatically turning off (oh, and restarting) the engine at traffic lights help here, but don't think the MINI has become a dullard because of them. It's well up for the traffic light GP, too; courtesy of 110bhp, it's able to hit 60mph in 9.9 seconds. We know, this does nothing for fuel economy, but MINI driving's inevitably as much about fun as it is about fuel economy.

    * Driven: Mini Cooper D

MINI Clubman Cooper D, 68.9mpg
MINI Clubman Cooper D (Image © BMW)

The Clubman is one of the coolest things in town. And while it can't match its dinkier, lighter baby brother for fuel efficiency, it's still way beyond anything you could achieve in most other cars. The diesel engine officially averages just under 69mpg here - and this time, you can realistically bring along two mates in the back and a decent amount of luggage, too. No, it's still not Tardis-like, but the added extra space means it's a much more useful machine, while the green status it commands means that following fashion needn't be a jet-engined flight of environmental fancy.

    * Driven: Mini Clubman
    * Watch the video roadtest of the Mini Clubman

Citroen C1/Toyota Aygo 1.4 HDi, 68.9mpg
Citroen C1 (Image © Citroen)
These tiny cars are, when fitted with PSA’s (Peugeot/Citroen’s parent company) 1.4-litre HDi diesel, officially the most fuel-efficient in the UK. The only problem is that this diesel engine isn’t available in the similar Peugeot 107. Anyway, they’ll cover no less than 68.9 miles for each gallon of fuel – that’s twice the distance a 2.0 Seat Leon can do, and four times what an Aston Martin DB9 is capable of. And they won’t be miserable miles, either. The city cars handle well and beg to be chucked into corners, while the stylish cabin is minimalist, not cheap. Indeed, the only problem is their steep £1,000 cost over the 61.4mpg-capable petrol, which is a nicer engine to use. If total economy isn’t everything, we’d save the cash and take the petrol over the HDi.

    * Driven: Citroen C1
    * Driven: Toyota Aygo

Citroen C2 1.4 HDi, 68.9mpg
Citroen C2 (Image © Citroen)
Those who find the C1 and Aygo too compact needn’t feel left out. A car with exactly the same economy (but slightly higher CO2 emissions) is available. And, in the mad world of Citroen cashback deals, for less outlay. It’s a supermini but strictly a four-seater, that feels more planted but is a little less fun to drive than the C1. No matter. Instead, drop on a bodykit and some 21-inch wheels, darken the glass and screw in a kick-ass stereo system, to become the greenest, cleanest boy racer in the land. We’re sure, with a cunningly-fitted turbo wastegate bypass, it will even sound hornier than the 1.4 petrol you’d otherwise buy…

    * Driven: Citroen C2 VTS HDI
    * Used C2 diesels from £4,295

Fiat 500 MultiJet, 67.3mpg
Fiat 500 (Image © Fiat)

Like the MINI, Fiat's fantastic 500 is another must-have car - which proves that following fashion doesn't always have to cost the earth. And we don't just mean literally. Not only does it, in 1.3-litre diesel guise, average 67.3mpg, it is also available for just £9,300 on the road. Throw in the opportunity to bedeck the interior with a catalogue store full of jewellery and city centres are all but guaranteed to be packed with the things. Which makes it all the more admirable that Fiat's endowed it with such efficiency. For once, substance as well as style.

    * Driven: Fiat 500

Fiat Panda 1.3 MultiJet, 65.7mpg
Fiat Panda (Image © Fiat)
In Italy, everyone drives flat-out on the Autostrada, two inches from the rear bumper of the car in front. At least with a Panda diesel (which, if your eyes are at all open, you’ll spot in Italy), Fiat’s giving them the opportunity to do this more efficiently. Even if they’ll still be a long way from the official 65.7mpg average. A five-door city car that’s surprisingly spacious, with a pleasant ‘big car’ feel, the very fact that it’s Italian means it’s a cool little thing too. And the gem of an engine makes you suffer for such frugality not one jot.

    * Driven: Fiat Panda diesel
    * Used Fiat Panda diesels from £4,699

Mazda 2 TD, 65.7mpg
Mazda 2 (Image © Mazda)

Mazda designed the current 2 supermini to be lightweight and fuel efficient. Courtesy of a diesel engine shared with Ford, Peugeot and Citroen, the claims bear out: 65.7mpg is pretty impressive for a standard five-door supermini that's yours for £9,500. It also looks, to our eyes, really good, while the sporty, taut chassis makes it a blast to drive. Mazda engineering means bombproof build and the ability to withstand the merciless rigours of city-centre motoring without batting an eyelid, too; the interior may look and feel plasticky, but it won't fall apart around you.

    * Driven: Mazda 2
    * Watch the video roadtest of the Mazda 2

Toyota Prius, 65.7mpg
Toyota Prius (Image © Toyota)
All that technology and expense, and the best Toyota can do is third? Yes, but hold on. Unlike any other car here, the Prius is a family-sized model. And is fitted with a petrol engine, not a diesel. And is a hybrid, so in town can run on electric power alone, therefore using no fuel at all. That’s clever, and it’s admirable Toyota has brought the technology to market and made it a commercial success out of it. It’s partly thanks to this car (and its celeb endorsement) that Americans are taking fuel efficiency seriously, and long may it continue. In two decades, we’ll be marking this as a very significant car indeed.
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Now why do Americans get screwed? The only one open to Americans is the Prius and that thing definately does not get 65 mpg, maybe 43 if you drive it perfectly. Why can't these come to America NOW?! Just paid nearly 5 bucks a gallon at COSTCO! I totally want that VW

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Well, Canada would not allow that electric car or whatever it is because they felt it was to flimsy and dangerous.  So it ain't just America.

edit:  America actually allows that car.

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I'm not sure how the American market would take to the styling of some of these cars. they're very...Eurochic is the best way to put it.
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i think we have different safety regulations over here.  have you seen those smart brand cars?  death traps!

part of the reason for higher fuel economy is:

1)  lighter car but is it safer?
2)  much smaller engines.  i think some countries tax by # of cylinders.  eg:  i rented 1.3 liter hyundai getz in israel.  i have a 3.2 liter BMW M3 at home.  way different
3)  speeds people drive - i wonder if we drive faster in the US than say in Europe (barring autobahn of course).  at least here in CA, everyone seems to be going >80mph.  any way you look at it, the way people drive affects fuel economy.  that's why i question all the prius owners when they are driving at such high rates of speed.


plus we in the US are a car culture.  deep seated preferences are here with respect to what consumers 'want' to drive.  we don't view car as just a way of transport like say my indian friends or even my friend from ethiopia.

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usmarine2 wrote:

Well, Canada would not allow that electric car or whatever it is because they felt it was to flimsy and dangerous.  So it ain't just America.

edit:  America actually allows that car.
Its Diesel
It looks nearly identical to the GOLF, os whats the problem they allow that?

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CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:

i think we have different safety regulations over here.  have you seen those smart brand cars?  death traps!

part of the reason for higher fuel economy is:

1)  lighter car but is it safer?
2)  much smaller engines.  i think some countries tax by # of cylinders.  eg:  i rented 1.3 liter hyundai getz in israel.  i have a 3.2 liter BMW M3 at home.  way different
3)  speeds people drive - i wonder if we drive faster in the US than say in Europe (barring autobahn of course).  at least here in CA, everyone seems to be going >80mph.  any way you look at it, the way people drive affects fuel economy.  that's why i question all the prius owners when they are driving at such high rates of speed.


plus we in the US are a car culture.  deep seated preferences are here with respect to what consumers 'want' to drive.  we don't view car as just a way of transport like say my indian friends or even my friend from ethiopia.
Aye, but people already buy the GOLF and that Polo is nearly the same shape and size. And also living in CA, IDGAF how it looks because its either that or I don't drive at all because I can't afford 80 bucks a week. And it is Def bigger than a smartcar.

Its just a Golf with a diesel and the Mini is just a mini with a Diesel, and people drive those plenty. And for 20k they are affordable.

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SealXo wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

Well, Canada would not allow that electric car or whatever it is because they felt it was to flimsy and dangerous.  So it ain't just America.

edit:  America actually allows that car.
Its Diesel
It looks nearly identical to the GOLF, os whats the problem they allow that?
No.

The ZENN is an electric car.
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I can imagine usmarine in one of these tbh:

https://www.johnwinsor.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/05/newfiat5001.jpg
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FatherTed wrote:

I can imagine usmarine in one of these tbh:

http://www.johnwinsor.com/photos/uncate … at5001.jpg
No thanks.  I will keep my Nissan Altima.
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usmarine2 wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

I can imagine usmarine in one of these tbh:

http://www.johnwinsor.com/photos/uncate … at5001.jpg
No thanks.  I will keep my Nissan Altima.
You'd look cute...
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FatherTed wrote:

You'd look cute...
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usmarine2 wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

You'd look cute...
u4secks?
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the only one i'd reasonably consider is the Mini

not the station wagony one, the regular one
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I heard that the one the Flintstones drove was pretty economical.
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cowami wrote:

the only one i'd reasonably consider is the Mini

not the station wagony one, the regular one
Id want that or the VW.
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SealXo wrote:

cowami wrote:

the only one i'd reasonably consider is the Mini

not the station wagony one, the regular one
Id want that or the VW.
Guys in Minis here are generally two sorts of people.

Estate Agents
Homosexuals.


Not that there's anything wrong being either of them...
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FatherTed wrote:

SealXo wrote:

cowami wrote:

the only one i'd reasonably consider is the Mini

not the station wagony one, the regular one
Id want that or the VW.
Guys in Minis here are generally two sorts of people.

Estate Agents
Homosexuals.


Not that there's anything wrong being either of them...
In my experience Estate Agents are wankers.

I'd rather be stuck in an elevator with a rampant homosexual than an estate agent.
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FatherTed wrote:

SealXo wrote:

cowami wrote:

the only one i'd reasonably consider is the Mini

not the station wagony one, the regular one
Id want that or the VW.
Guys in Minis here are generally two sorts of people.

Estate Agents
Homosexuals.


Not that there's anything wrong being either of them...
Well, I guess thats a thing that only happens across the pond...
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When the EfficientDynamics system is available in all of BMW's fleet then I'll get a 3 or 5-series.
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(As mentioned before)

https://i26.tinypic.com/28mmg6u.jpg

https://i29.tinypic.com/11hb34g.jpg

https://i29.tinypic.com/2zgcco3.jpg

https://i32.tinypic.com/2nr11s9.jpg

40 miles on a charge with no oil. The range is 300 miles when the on board generator kicks in.

The average commute to work is 16 miles. I'd drive it.
http://gm-volt.com/
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Kmarion wrote:

(As mentioned before)


40 miles on a charge with no oil. The range is 300 miles when the on board generator kicks in.

The average commute to work is 16 miles. I'd drive it.
http://gm-volt.com/
Electricity costs a lot? And that thing looks super unconfortable.
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SealXo wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

(As mentioned before)


40 miles on a charge with no oil. The range is 300 miles when the on board generator kicks in.

The average commute to work is 16 miles. I'd drive it.
http://gm-volt.com/
Electricity costs a lot? And that thing looks super unconfortable.
Nowhere near the same cost.
The Volt can drive for 40 miles on a single full electric charge of it’s battery pack. It is a known fact that the battery pack will be allowed to drain down from 80% to 30% before the gas-generator kicks in. Since the battery pack holds 16 KWH of energy, that means 8 KWH will get you 40 miles.

The cost of a KWH from the electric grid varies considerably depending on location and time of use. Usually, off-peak hours, from 9PM to 10AM will have the lowest rates from one’s electric utility provider. This will require a special meter that not all homes have.
https://i31.tinypic.com/2rz847b.gif

The map above shows the average retail price of electricity in the U.S. by state in 2003. It ranges from around 6 cents/KWH to 17 cents/KWH. The U.S. average for 2007 is 10.65 cents. To see the numbers for the current year click here. If we use the average, the cost to recharge the Volt will be $0.85, and the range for 2007 will be from 48 cents to $1.34 depending where you live. Clearly for 40 miles of driving at present gas and electric prices, there will be a very significant cost savings. Of course, there is some uncertainty of where these numbers will be when the Volt arrives in 2010.

After the first 40 miles, the combustion engine generator will kick in. This will keep the battery at a 30% state of charge. This 3-cylinder 1L engine will get 50 mpg fuel efficiency. To calculate the fuel efficiency for drives longer than 40 miles use the following formula: Total MPG = 55*M/(M-40)
http://gm-volt.com/chevy-volt-reasons-f … operation/

Not to mention the proposed rebates: http://gm-volt.com/2008/06/23/gm-reques … s-gm-5000/


As far as comfort.. I haven't sat in it but it looks comfortable to me. It's also a prototype so I'd pay more attention to the technology rather than the ergonomics. Those are easy fixes.
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Kmarion wrote:

(As mentioned before)

http://i26.tinypic.com/28mmg6u.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/11hb34g.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/2zgcco3.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/2nr11s9.jpg

40 miles on a charge with no oil. The range is 300 miles when the on board generator kicks in.

The average commute to work is 16 miles. I'd drive it.
http://gm-volt.com/
1. Its built in the US
2. It would be years before you would see it on the streets
3. The price would off set the benefits

I would like to have a diesel powered Euro car since they specialize in making highly efficient vehicles unlike the US and they are already available.

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All the cars on the list in OP are really small cars, try fitting a family of 4 or 5 in one of those and drive for a distance ... the Prius can do just that
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