FallenMorgan
Member
+53|5922|Glendale, CA
http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality

Imagine this:

https://ipower.ning.com/extensions/gfx/netneutrality.jpg

Corporations are very evil, in my opinion.
2tuff
Positive Karma Here!
+357|6784
I dont see a BF2s icon there >_<

Seriously, I doubt this will ever happen, and if it does....there will always be people who can get around it.
Brasso
member
+1,549|6638

i was looking at that girl's tits/loving her accent
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
i g
Banned
+876|5872|GA

2tuff wrote:

I dont see a BF2s icon there >_<

Seriously, I doubt this will ever happen, and if it does....there will always be people who can get around it.

haffeysucks wrote:

i was looking at that girl's tits/loving her accent

Last edited by Eye-GiZzLe (2008-06-01 12:00:07)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6629|London, England
It'll never happen, you'll get ISP's who won't do that. I think the ISP bznz is too competitive to do shit as extreme as that. Although these days alot of corporations prefer to work together and screw the customer rather than be competitive against each other. You know, like how they fix prices and artificially raise them and shit.
paul386
Member
+22|6253
I don't support "net neutrality". It is just like "free trade" laws. It is a misnomer. You cannot legislate "neutrality".

Allow the ISPs to do whatever they want. Not all will do this because they want an edge above the others.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6774|UK
Basically all this will do will kill all large ISP's, everyone will switch to smaller ISP's who will make a killing.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6413|North Carolina

paul386 wrote:

I don't support "net neutrality". It is just like "free trade" laws. It is a misnomer. You cannot legislate "neutrality".

Allow the ISPs to do whatever they want. Not all will do this because they want an edge above the others.
Are you aware of how monopolistic most telecom markets are?  Look at how shitty Comcast is.

The problem with this logic is that telecom services are very expensive to run.  A very limited number of companies are in this market, and there are mergers all the time.  We've seen it with cell service, TV, and internet all the same.

It's not very realistic to assume that competition alone will support neutrality.  This is why legislation must be passed.
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6714
That's a scary thought.
Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|6730|Eastern PA
Robot Nixon does not approve of Net Neutrality
https://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2109/5482robotnixonic4.jpg
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|5969|Washington DC
I, along with the internet, would declare jihad on the ISPs if this happened. And Congress, too!
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6351|tropical regions of london
cut off the OP's internet.
paul386
Member
+22|6253

Turquoise wrote:

paul386 wrote:

I don't support "net neutrality". It is just like "free trade" laws. It is a misnomer. You cannot legislate "neutrality".

Allow the ISPs to do whatever they want. Not all will do this because they want an edge above the others.
Are you aware of how monopolistic most telecom markets are?  Look at how shitty Comcast is.

The problem with this logic is that telecom services are very expensive to run.  A very limited number of companies are in this market, and there are mergers all the time.  We've seen it with cell service, TV, and internet all the same.

It's not very realistic to assume that competition alone will support neutrality.  This is why legislation must be passed.
The cost of entry is has nothing to do with it moron. It is FCC that has caused that.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|6851|Reykjavík, Iceland.

HurricaИe wrote:

I, along with the internet, would declare jihad on the ISPs if this happened. And Congress, too!
Indeed.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6774|UK

Turquoise wrote:

paul386 wrote:

I don't support "net neutrality". It is just like "free trade" laws. It is a misnomer. You cannot legislate "neutrality".

Allow the ISPs to do whatever they want. Not all will do this because they want an edge above the others.
Are you aware of how monopolistic most telecom markets are?  Look at how shitty Comcast is.

The problem with this logic is that telecom services are very expensive to run.  A very limited number of companies are in this market, and there are mergers all the time.  We've seen it with cell service, TV, and internet all the same.

It's not very realistic to assume that competition alone will support neutrality.  This is why legislation must be passed.
If companies are effectively price fixing future schemes they are already breaking the law. However I agree there needs to be legislation.
r2zoo
Knowledge is power, guard it well
+126|6604|Michigan, USA

Vilham wrote:

Basically all this will do will kill all large ISP's, everyone will switch to smaller ISP's who will make a killing.
Essentially your idea is correct, however, if a small ISP gets a huge influx of customers, your speeds are going to be terrible for quite a while until their infrastruture gets to the point where it can properly support its customer base.  Essentially you would end up raising a small company to a large, replacing the one everyone abandoned, ending up back where you started.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6413|North Carolina

paul386 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

paul386 wrote:

I don't support "net neutrality". It is just like "free trade" laws. It is a misnomer. You cannot legislate "neutrality".

Allow the ISPs to do whatever they want. Not all will do this because they want an edge above the others.
Are you aware of how monopolistic most telecom markets are?  Look at how shitty Comcast is.

The problem with this logic is that telecom services are very expensive to run.  A very limited number of companies are in this market, and there are mergers all the time.  We've seen it with cell service, TV, and internet all the same.

It's not very realistic to assume that competition alone will support neutrality.  This is why legislation must be passed.
The cost of entry is has nothing to do with it moron. It is FCC that has caused that.
That was a very uncharacteristic response, paul.  I didn't have the intention of touching a nerve, but I guess I did, eh?

The FCC is certainly a problematic institution that I think we can agree needs to be reformed or disbanded, but the Telecommunications Act of 1996 was originally intended to open up competition in the telecom markets.  It didn't happen, because several telecoms had existing regional monopolies that they wanted to protect.

If anything, telecoms have no interest in opening up competition, even if it means monopolizing infrastructures partially paid for by tax money.  You're not going to see net neutrality promoted by any major telecom because of the money to be made with the proposed tiered quality of service plans that will result from the complete lack of neutrality.
Guy.Buddy.Friend
coks
+71|5874
I'm sure the president won't like paying for his porn.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6780|PNW

The one ISP who doesn't do that will get all the business, so who's going to do that?
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6558|CH/BR - in UK

I doubt this will happen... If it does, there will be quite the uproar of internet users. But I have heard of "Internet 2.0" - much higher speeds, extra restrictions and internet police.

edit:
Paul: The entry costs are really high. How the hell are you going to wire the entire country on your own? One company does it, and everyone else pays it. It's BT here. All ISPs go through BT.

-konfusion

Last edited by konfusion (2008-06-01 15:18:16)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6629|London, England

konfusion wrote:

nternet police.

-konfusion
https://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3355/dont20worry20sir20im20from20the20internetui7.jpg
SgtSlutter
Banned
+550|6646|Amsterdam, NY
Isnt that the girl from the Athene videos

Last edited by SgtSlutter (2008-06-01 15:30:27)

Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|6730|Eastern PA
That woman has epic titties.

I approve.
imortal
Member
+240|6673|Austin, TX

FallenMorgan wrote:

Corporations are very evil, in my opinion.
What would you prefer as an alternative?
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6714

imortal wrote:

FallenMorgan wrote:

Corporations are very evil, in my opinion.
What would you prefer as an alternative?
https://bp2.blogger.com/_W1ueYt1O3xs/RyCB-aOnAwI/AAAAAAAACEQ/xiEQS2NbuuM/s400/firefox-communism_wallpapers_1794_1280x1024.jpg

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