Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5196|Sydney
From these guys. Paid for them on Monday last week, free postage from Perth to Brisbane - http://headphones.com.au/

The ones I got specifically are these - Audio Technica ATH-AD700
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6488
im gonna refrain from making a snooty comment about how much of an 'eargasm' a PCI soundcard and some standard consumer headphones can produce

just fill in the blank here:
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Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|5806|Catherine Black
where's that picture of the old guy with the $1000 HD 800s that looks like a fucking foreveralone.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6488
if you have $1000 to spend on headphones and you go for sennies then you deserve to be foreveralone.jpg
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Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|5806|Catherine Black
I hear they're actually pretty good

.Sup had some and you know what he was like

probably has cable risers
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6488
i'd want something a little warmer and something that i actually looked good in if i was sat in my bespoke hi-fi room (padded, of course)... something to compliment my fine antique furniture that supports my immaculate and pristine sound-lab quality turntable technology... like this:

https://www.listenup.com/lu/graphics/00000001/Grado.GS1000i.jpg

fap fap fap
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Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|5806|Catherine Black
they are pretty hot tbh.

katy perry'd sound fantastic on those.

T G I F
https://i.imgur.com/qwWEP9F.png
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5196|Sydney

Uzique wrote:

im gonna refrain from making a snooty comment about how much of an 'eargasm' a PCI soundcard and some standard consumer headphones can produce

just fill in the blank here:
It's all subjective dude.
I'm pretty happy with my setup, so meh.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,810|6123|eXtreme to the maX
It is subjective, I've known people in the audio industry and they just laugh at the guff printed about hi-fi.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-08-02 02:24:04)

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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5196|Sydney

Dilbert_X wrote:

It is subjective, I've known people in the audio industry and they just laugh at the guff printed in about hi-fi.
Yeah, I know a lot of sound engineers too. A lot of it is just wankery, much like cars or wine.

For the budget I had this is a vast improvement, hence subjective.

Last edited by Jaekus (2011-08-02 02:24:28)

Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,810|6123|eXtreme to the maX
Cars too, wine even more so.

I know enough people who've dropped huge sums on sound systems to no real effect, the benefit is mostly imaginary.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-08-02 02:27:26)

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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5196|Sydney
Yeah definitely.

I'm happy, and that's all that really matters

Last edited by Jaekus (2011-08-02 02:58:53)

Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|4860|Amsterdam

Jaekus wrote:

A lot of it is just wankery, much like cars or wine.
Then you've never driven an expensive car or had a good wine.
Yes, a lot of it is overrated thanks to arrogant 'connaisseurs', but in general there is a difference between the good expensive one and the cheap piece of shit.
A lot of it is unnecessary scrutinising though

Last edited by Kampframmer (2011-08-02 03:12:01)

Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,810|6123|eXtreme to the maX

Kampframmer wrote:

in general there is a difference between the good expensive one and the cheap piece of shit.
But the difference between good expensive, good moderately expensive and good very expensive is barely discernible, not just in wine, cars or headphones.
It is mostly marketing and wankery.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-08-02 03:24:59)

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Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|4860|Amsterdam

Dilbert_X wrote:

Kampframmer wrote:

in general there is a difference between the good expensive one and the cheap piece of shit.
But the difference between good expensive, good moderately expensive and good very expensive is barely discernible, not just in wine, cars or headphones.
It is mostly marketing and wankery.
Cant say that i agree with 'mostly'. But to a certain degree, sure.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6667

Uzique wrote:

im gonna refrain from making a snooty comment about how much of an 'eargasm' a PCI soundcard and some standard consumer headphones can produce

just fill in the blank here:
What would you recommend then? For similar money obviously.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5196|Sydney

Kampframmer wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

A lot of it is just wankery, much like cars or wine.
Then you've never driven an expensive car or had a good wine.
Yes, a lot of it is overrated thanks to arrogant 'connaisseurs', but in general there is a difference between the good expensive one and the cheap piece of shit.
A lot of it is unnecessary scrutinising though
I was referring more to the attitudes than products.

FYI I was a hotel valet for a couple years, drove a few porsches, an old school MG and more BNWs, Mercs, Audis etc. etc. etc. than I can remember
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6488
lol saying "it's all subjective" when talking about audio hardware is a retarded statement. that's like saying "it's all subjective!" when you argue over whether a wall is painted red or blue. how can it be subjective when the hardware itself produces a drastically different (and higher quality) audio signatuire? perhaps your own hearing is too damaged or shitty to discern much difference, but that doesn't make the entire market therefore a skewed, scam of subjectivity. that's a fault at the user-end, not the product. if you want immaculate and clean sound, then you have to fork out for a certain level of quality and build - that's just how it is. just because driving a ferrari doesn't particularly thrill you yourself any more than driving a ford focus would, doesn't make the entire line of ferrari cars a load of hot guff. ridiculous.
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5196|Sydney
No, you don't understand what I meant.

I've been listening to cheap gaming headphones hooked up to the audio out on my keyboard that's connected via USB to the motherboard's onboard sound.

Compare that to a relatively expensive sound card, good cans and flac audio and there is a big difference.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6488
well then you mean "it's relative", not "it's subjective". because subjectively, in any subject's ears, they would be classed as average. relative to your budget set-up before? better, no doubt. amazing, even.
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5196|Sydney
Yeah ok, relative.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5196|Sydney
And I'm not about to dish out $1,200 for a set of headphones, as much as I'd like to. Just isn't practical. So I got the best for the budget I had. No need to try to rain on my parade with some acerbic comments.

Last edited by Jaekus (2011-08-02 05:36:45)

Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,810|6123|eXtreme to the maX

Uzique wrote:

lol saying "it's all subjective" when talking about audio hardware is a retarded statement. that's like saying "it's all subjective!" when you argue over whether a wall is painted red or blue. how can it be subjective when the hardware itself produces a drastically different (and higher quality) audio signatuire? perhaps your own hearing is too damaged or shitty to discern much difference, but that doesn't make the entire market therefore a skewed, scam of subjectivity. that's a fault at the user-end, not the product. if you want immaculate and clean sound, then you have to fork out for a certain level of quality and build - that's just how it is. just because driving a ferrari doesn't particularly thrill you yourself any more than driving a ford focus would, doesn't make the entire line of ferrari cars a load of hot guff. ridiculous.
Beyond a certain point its subjective.

When a signal analyser tells you two pieces of equipment are producing exactly the same sound quality level, with their own slight wrinkles thrown in, its subjective.

Speakers and headphones are the subjective part of a sound setup, arguing about which is 'better' above a certain quality level is just futile.

Its always good to hear audiophiles say their hearing is 'better' and mere mortals don't have the capability to appreciate the awesomeness of their sound system.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6488

Dilbert_X wrote:

When a signal analyser tells you two pieces of equipment are producing exactly the same sound quality level, with their own slight wrinkles thrown in, its subjective.
yeah because im saying that his $150 headphones and the $1200 pair i posted have 'exactly the same sound quality level'

my point was his 'eargasm' is, speaking of audio hardware, an extremely premature one

Last edited by Uzique (2011-08-02 05:53:15)

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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5196|Sydney
Yeah and my point is I'm happy and I don't really see the need why you're just being a dick, nor do I care

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