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Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

my 22" dia Samsung SyncMaster 225BW has been acting up..

what would be a good replacement in this 2010?
send it to freezer?
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
bugz
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How is it "acting up" ?
Freezer7Pro
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Morpheus wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Why not both?

That looks like some kind of ghetto jury rigging
if only one channel was working, one of them would still have to be in.

Although, not really sure what the point of that is
Indeed, the previous owner had simply forgotten to put the one that I've now manufactured a replacement for (and Presidentsheep kindly marked out) in place.

And, Morpheus, the point of the jumpers is to allow one to connect an equalizer between the source selector (and sometimes volume control) and the power amplifier.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Morpheus
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

Morpheus wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:


Why not both?

That looks like some kind of ghetto jury rigging
if only one channel was working, one of them would still have to be in.

Although, not really sure what the point of that is
Indeed, the previous owner had simply forgotten to put the one that I've now manufactured a replacement for (and Presidentsheep kindly marked out) in place.

And, Morpheus, the point of the jumpers is to allow one to connect an equalizer between the source selector (and sometimes volume control) and the power amplifier.
Yea. I realized that...
For me, in those situations I always think "why not get a dedicated amp?"
EE (hats

ebug9 wrote:

How is it "acting up" ?
22" dia Samsung SyncMaster 225BW - 60htz

sometimes whitish/gray solid screen when i turn it on.. fixed by turning it off and then back on
or slow refresh epileptic type for the first few minutes its on(that i see)
is this normal

Last edited by Kimmmmmmmmmmmm (2010-12-14 10:39:53)

Benzin
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Interesting problem you have there, Kim. Is the monitor connected to a power strip? Perhaps you aren't getting enough power in some way? It's likely not the problem, but it's the only thing that occurs to me.
yeah it's in a power squid dealio.. when everything is off it makes a slight buzz sound also ..must be electrical.. or from moving..
Freezer7Pro
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Morpheus wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

Morpheus wrote:


if only one channel was working, one of them would still have to be in.

Although, not really sure what the point of that is
Indeed, the previous owner had simply forgotten to put the one that I've now manufactured a replacement for (and Presidentsheep kindly marked out) in place.

And, Morpheus, the point of the jumpers is to allow one to connect an equalizer between the source selector (and sometimes volume control) and the power amplifier.
Yea. I realized that...
For me, in those situations I always think "why not get a dedicated amp?"
What do you mean? You've got a perfectly good source selector, and a perfectly good amplifier. With pre/main jumpers, you don't need to ditch either when you add an equalizer or effects box.

Kim, it's the power supply in your monitor that's failing. It happens to all of them. It's a very cheap fix if you've got a good local TV repair tech.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
.Sup
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Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

yeah it's in a power squid dealio.. when everything is off it makes a slight buzz sound also ..must be electrical.. or from moving..
the buzzing sound could be the capacitor vibrating. Its usually because of poor assembly. Sometimes they vibrate intentionally so the heat is converted into vibrations instead. But I doubt this is the case. The vibrating capacitors are probably part of the power supply section. Definitely annoying and something I wouldn't stand for long. I would ask for replacement.
https://www.shrani.si/f/3H/7h/45GTw71U/untitled-1.png
that whole explanation was pretty hot
Freezer7Pro
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.Sup wrote:

Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

yeah it's in a power squid dealio.. when everything is off it makes a slight buzz sound also ..must be electrical.. or from moving..
the buzzing sound could be the capacitor vibrating. Its usually because of poor assembly. Sometimes they vibrate intentionally so the heat is converted into vibrations instead. But I doubt this is the case. The vibrating capacitors are probably part of the power supply section. Definitely annoying and something I wouldn't stand for long. I would ask for replacement.
Um, dude, not really.

While capacitors may sometimes emit audible noise (there's more than one in an LCD screen, too,) I guarantee that it's not intentional (poor component choices due to cost aside,) especially not for the intent of reducing heat. Noisy capacitors are also very rare compared to noisy coils, which essentially are small speakers.

It is, however, quite common for coils to start emitting noise when capacitors go bad, since it results in voltage fluctuations ("dirty power"), making more current run through the coil in pulses, causing a stronger-than-intended magnetic field to be formed around the coil, pulling it toward metal objects in its vicinity.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
13urnzz
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dirty, dirty power . . .
freezer this dirty power talk is even hotter. thank you ~

ps got a quick idea for replacement on the 22" dia Samsung SyncMaster 225BW - 60htz?
photographer/gamer

Last edited by Kimmmmmmmmmmmm (2010-12-14 15:03:49)

bugz
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It may just be mine in particular but don't get the Syncmaster 2494SW. 2 dead pixels within a month of purchasing it.
Morpheus
This shit still going?
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

What do you mean? You've got a perfectly good source selector, and a perfectly good amplifier. With pre/main jumpers, you don't need to ditch either when you add an equalizer or effects box.
I meant that when I look at system design, whether for my home, or for professional use, I have a different..... perspective than most "home consumers".

...Although, tbh, I still don't see the point of that stupid design, insert jacks would've been better.
EE (hats
.Sup
be nice
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

yeah it's in a power squid dealio.. when everything is off it makes a slight buzz sound also ..must be electrical.. or from moving..
the buzzing sound could be the capacitor vibrating. Its usually because of poor assembly. Sometimes they vibrate intentionally so the heat is converted into vibrations instead. But I doubt this is the case. The vibrating capacitors are probably part of the power supply section. Definitely annoying and something I wouldn't stand for long. I would ask for replacement.
Um, dude, not really.

While capacitors may sometimes emit audible noise (there's more than one in an LCD screen, too,) I guarantee that it's not intentional (poor component choices due to cost aside,) especially not for the intent of reducing heat. Noisy capacitors are also very rare compared to noisy coils, which essentially are small speakers.

It is, however, quite common for coils to start emitting noise when capacitors go bad, since it results in voltage fluctuations ("dirty power"), making more current run through the coil in pulses, causing a stronger-than-intended magnetic field to be formed around the coil, pulling it toward metal objects in its vicinity.
So the manual for my power supply upgrade which states just that is wrong? I will contact the company I bought it from (wasn't cheap) tomorrow and post an update. If he says what I wrote before I will start by replying- "Um, dude, not really." and then copy paste what you wrote if that's okay with you.
https://www.shrani.si/f/3H/7h/45GTw71U/untitled-1.png
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … Tpk=XL2370  this look good for a replacement? $299
SAMSUNG XL2370-1 Charcoal Gray 23" 2ms Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor Slim Design 250 cd/m2 DC 5,000,000:1(1000:1)
Finray
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lols im being 4serious!
matrix monitor would be overload.. i dont understand why people get two monitors instead of jsut one big one ? you dont have to turn your head so much
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Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

lols im being 4serious!
matrix monitor would be overload.. i dont understand why people get two monitors instead of jsut one big one ? you dont have to turn your head so much
Try using multiple monitors. It's glorious.

Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001380&Tpk=XL2370  this look good for a replacement? $299
SAMSUNG XL2370-1 Charcoal Gray 23" 2ms Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor Slim Design 250 cd/m2 DC 5,000,000:1(1000:1)
well this one is out of the game now
after reading this negative review
*Glossy bevel reflects inside images from screen.
*Most of all, the color shift is so bad no designer (Especially Print) should purchase this monitor! If you sit perfectly in front of the screen and move things around they change color. Move your head one inch up and the white turns blue. Even color calibrating made no difference. I can't believe they sold or made this screen. I'm wondering who really gave this a good review.
Freezer7Pro
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Morpheus wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

What do you mean? You've got a perfectly good source selector, and a perfectly good amplifier. With pre/main jumpers, you don't need to ditch either when you add an equalizer or effects box.
I meant that when I look at system design, whether for my home, or for professional use, I have a different..... perspective than most "home consumers".

...Although, tbh, I still don't see the point of that stupid design, insert jacks would've been better.
I just think a bypass switch would be the best solution.

.Sup wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

.Sup wrote:


the buzzing sound could be the capacitor vibrating. Its usually because of poor assembly. Sometimes they vibrate intentionally so the heat is converted into vibrations instead. But I doubt this is the case. The vibrating capacitors are probably part of the power supply section. Definitely annoying and something I wouldn't stand for long. I would ask for replacement.
Um, dude, not really.

While capacitors may sometimes emit audible noise (there's more than one in an LCD screen, too,) I guarantee that it's not intentional (poor component choices due to cost aside,) especially not for the intent of reducing heat. Noisy capacitors are also very rare compared to noisy coils, which essentially are small speakers.

It is, however, quite common for coils to start emitting noise when capacitors go bad, since it results in voltage fluctuations ("dirty power"), making more current run through the coil in pulses, causing a stronger-than-intended magnetic field to be formed around the coil, pulling it toward metal objects in its vicinity.
So the manual for my power supply upgrade which states just that is wrong? I will contact the company I bought it from (wasn't cheap) tomorrow and post an update. If he says what I wrote before I will start by replying- "Um, dude, not really." and then copy paste what you wrote if that's okay with you.
Oh, I don't mind, as long as you use it in context.

If I got a squealy power supply for something from a company, especially if it was expensive, and they say that it's "the capacitors vibrating by design to reduce heat emissions", I just wouldn't buy another product made by that company, as they obviously don't know what the hell they're talking about.
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
Morpheus
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

I just think a bypass switch would be the best solution.
tee-hee


an insert jack would take care of that.......
you know how they are wired, right?
EE (hats
Freezer7Pro
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Morpheus wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

I just think a bypass switch would be the best solution.
tee-hee


an insert jack would take care of that.......
you know how they are wired, right?
Not really, I don't deal much with mixing stuff.

A quick look at the Wikipedia article hints that it's pretty much the same thing as the the "jumper plugs" in home audio equipment, but with switched TS/TRS plugs rather than RCA. Would that be correct?

In that case, I don't see why they'd be a better different solution at all, as the main advantage would be the switch in the TRS jacks allowing for automatic bypassing, something that is much harder to achieve with RCA (and much more expensive, since it'd require rather special connectors).

Last edited by Freezer7Pro (2010-12-14 21:10:52)

The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
well after looking around and updating myself i think ..wow have monitors changed fast
i know now my 2006 lcd isnt the best for photography..
looking at IPS monitors
anyone use one?
http://www.amazon.com/UltraSharp-2209WA … amp;sr=1-3

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