Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6406|North Carolina

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm just saying that, ethnically, parts of California may become so similar to Mexico that it will be difficult to draw a line between what is owned by America and what is owned by Mexico.

The thing is...  America is falling in its standard of living while Mexico is rising.  Eventually, we may meet in the middle economically, but this will take decades.  When and if it does happen, there really won't be much of a difference between us -- at least in the border areas.
Are you stupid?  Do you think Americans are going to give up sections of their country just because the majority is populated by illegal trespassers?  Mexico is basically staging a civilian invasion and we're just going to let them?  I think not.
Thanks for the defense, ATG. 

Again, what I'm stating applies to demographics here.  Because we get both heavy legal and heavy illegal immigration from Mexico and the rest of Latin America, there are areas of our country on or near the border that will become very similar to Mexico at least in culture.

A lot of what happens depends on what the legal Hispanic immigrants choose to do.  Will they stand up for the rule of law, or will they help their relatives illegally enter our country and burden our systems?

I think you and I would probably agree on what we should do, but what's actually going to happen is another matter entirely.  There may end up a fight, but who's to say who would win?...
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6758|Argentina

nukchebi0 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

At least South Central is a gang free zone.
/sarcasm
I missed the /sarcasm I guess.
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6325|New Haven, CT

sergeriver wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

At least South Central is a gang free zone.
/sarcasm
I missed the /sarcasm I guess.
South Central LA gang free?

Are you joking?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6758|Argentina

nukchebi0 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

/sarcasm
I missed the /sarcasm I guess.
South Central LA gang free?

Are you joking?
Yes, I was being sarcastic.  "I missed the /sarcasm thing I guess", not "I missed the sarcasm".

Last edited by sergeriver (2008-05-04 17:13:35)

Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6707

Turquoise wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm just saying that, ethnically, parts of California may become so similar to Mexico that it will be difficult to draw a line between what is owned by America and what is owned by Mexico.

The thing is...  America is falling in its standard of living while Mexico is rising.  Eventually, we may meet in the middle economically, but this will take decades.  When and if it does happen, there really won't be much of a difference between us -- at least in the border areas.
Are you stupid?  Do you think Americans are going to give up sections of their country just because the majority is populated by illegal trespassers?  Mexico is basically staging a civilian invasion and we're just going to let them?  I think not.
Thanks for the defense, ATG. 

Again, what I'm stating applies to demographics here.  Because we get both heavy legal and heavy illegal immigration from Mexico and the rest of Latin America, there are areas of our country on or near the border that will become very similar to Mexico at least in culture.

A lot of what happens depends on what the legal Hispanic immigrants choose to do.  Will they stand up for the rule of law, or will they help their relatives illegally enter our country and burden our systems?

I think you and I would probably agree on what we should do, but what's actually going to happen is another matter entirely.  There may end up a fight, but who's to say who would win?...
There are many areas down south that are culturally identical to Mexico, but that doesn't mean that the government will simply give them up.
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6325|New Haven, CT

sergeriver wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


I missed the /sarcasm I guess.
South Central LA gang free?

Are you joking?
Yes, I was being sarcastic.  "I missed the /sarcasm thing I guess", not "I missed the sarcasm".
Oh. I was assuming you understood what /sarcasm meant.

Its just used to make it obvious you are being sarcastic, because, as you just saw, its rather hard to discern through text.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|6767|Cambridge (UK)

ATG wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

I've read loads of your posts about Mexicans, ATG, and I just don't get why you dislike them so much.
My wife is half Mexican, and her Mexican dad is here today helping me plant my garden.

Are you that clueless?

It isn't about hating Mexicans.

But, thanks for demonstrating that, other than getting stuff off my chest, there is no real point in trying to discuss this.
I'm sorry, but first line of you OP:

ATG wrote:

It goes without saying that these gangs are largely composed of illegal aliens from Mexico.
"It goes without saying", and then not just "illegal aliens", but "illegal aliens from Mexico".

And it's always the same, just the term 'illegal aliens' would suffice, but then you use the term 'mexicans'.


But, anyway, let me rephrase the post - I've read loads of your posts about illegal aliens, ATG, and I just don't get why you dislike them so much.

With lowing it's easy - bigots I get, but with you, you're not a bigot, so, I just don't get it.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-05-04 21:57:49)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6530|Global Command
BORDER SECURITY.
Spell it out with me;
B
O
R
D
E
R

S
E
C
U
R
I
T
Y

Now, stop,  think, and listen.
Carry on.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|6767|Cambridge (UK)
No, I still don't get it.

What's so great about 'border security'?
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6325|New Haven, CT

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

ATG wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

I've read loads of your posts about Mexicans, ATG, and I just don't get why you dislike them so much.
My wife is half Mexican, and her Mexican dad is here today helping me plant my garden.

Are you that clueless?

It isn't about hating Mexicans.

But, thanks for demonstrating that, other than getting stuff off my chest, there is no real point in trying to discuss this.
I'm sorry, but first line of you OP:

ATG wrote:

It goes without saying that these gangs are largely composed of illegal aliens from Mexico.
"It goes without saying", and then not just "illegal aliens", but "illegal aliens from Mexico".

And it's always the same, just the term 'illegal aliens' would suffice, but then you use the term 'mexicans'.


But, anyway, let me rephrase the post - I've read loads of your posts about illegal aliens, ATG, and I just don't get why you dislike them so much.

With lowing it's easy - bigots I get, but with you, you're not a bigot, so, I just don't get it.
He lives in Southern California and is affected negatively by them. It isn't hard to see why he dislikes them so much.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|6767|Cambridge (UK)

nukchebi0 wrote:

He lives in Southern California and is affected negatively by them.
Well, that's what I'm trying to get at - how is he "affected negatively by them"?

'Border security', or the lack thereof, are just concepts and concepts can do one no harm.
UUD40
Member
+8|6373|San Diego, CA

CoronadoSEAL wrote:

UUD40 wrote:

To complain you must be a native american.
ummm...no.

to complain one must be a law abiding citizen who is concerned about this country's well-being.
It went right past you didn't it?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6758|Argentina

nukchebi0 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:


South Central LA gang free?

Are you joking?
Yes, I was being sarcastic.  "I missed the /sarcasm thing I guess", not "I missed the sarcasm".
Oh. I was assuming you understood what /sarcasm meant.

Its just used to make it obvious you are being sarcastic, because, as you just saw, its rather hard to discern through text.
I know what it is for, I just thought that my comment was so obvious that the /sarcasm wasn't needed.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6697|NJ
Well as we know they're going for the tune of a couple billion dollars on Fences on the border that do not work.. Fences would work great if we never invented the shovel.. The problem of "Illegal" immigrants are not just an issue of border states, we have a large population of them in New Jersey.. Also the amount of illegal aliens we have in our country if we tried to forcefully remove them, we might end up having riots like France did with the Muslims...

What I've been noticing that works with removing the illegals is an increase of cost of living, or a flat tax instead of income tax, a large portion of our illegals in NJ made a move out to PA because it's so much cheaper.. Now if they jump the border and start working here the benefit to hiring illegals is gone because you'll be paying the same for them as you would a US worker, and they just won't be able to afford living here. Also if they can afford living here they're not going to be a burden on our economy because they're paying there fair share of taxes..


How come with these protest you never see signs saying "I"M TRYING TO GET MY PAPERS?"... All you see is how they're taking back there country? Fuck them, Maybe we should start letting our criminals out at that borders and start taking over Mexico..
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6561

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

I've read loads of your posts about Mexicans, ATG, and I just don't get why you dislike them so much.
Duh!!, Because he married one. :p
Magpie
international welder....Douchebag Dude, <3 ur mom
+257|6527|Milkystania, yurop

Turquoise wrote:

I think Magpie is making fun of the broken English that many Asian shopkeepers use.
u read my mind
loubot
O' HAL naw!
+470|6579|Columbus, OH

ATG wrote:

It goes without saying that these gangs are largely composed of illegal aliens from Mexico.

But there is Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.

There is  Gil Sedillo

There are a host of people, some born here, some from Mexico, all with college educations and united in the purpose of legally reclaiming the Southwest. They get elected to city government, they become state senators and mayors, and every fiber of their being and all of their tax funded time is spent crafting bills and laws that screw citizens and give not equal, but advantaged status to illegal aliens.
They are all gang members.

The taggers use spray paint to mark their territory, the illegal alien activist politicians use the pen, but they are all the same. The former may shoot you, but the latter are destroying the quality of life and ruining this part of America for generations.

Enter a wild eyed liberal white chick. She is a politician eager to please. She gets money set aside to hire " gang intervention specialist ". She is approached by " former " gang members. These guys go on city payroll.

And they gang bang. When hassled by cops, they present their city credentials, drop the name of Janice Hahn, and often they get a pass from the cops because she is a typical wild eyed liberal; she sets internal affairs on the officers that arrest her " employees " and uses her influence to get them off when they are arrested.

http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/Home … amp;sflg=1

The schools in Los Angeles are some of the largest in the United States. Many schools grades 1-12 are made up of a majority of hispanic students, the majority are the anchor babies of illegal aliens. As much as 95% hispanic. Complete cities are a complete writeoff and are mostly un-inhabitable  for non third world people. Unless you don't mind broken down cars in the streets, loose dogs, chickens and gang bangers.

Nobody got excited about the May Day demonstrations yesterday. You know why?

This land belongs to Mexico again.
Don't worry Lex Luthor has a couple of nukes pointing at the San Andrea's fault, just a matter of time.
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6707

Magpie wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I think Magpie is making fun of the broken English that many Asian shopkeepers use.
u read my mind
Ummmm, he lives in California
UUD40
Member
+8|6373|San Diego, CA
I love you long time bf2s.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6406|North Carolina

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

There are many areas down south that are culturally identical to Mexico, but that doesn't mean that the government will simply give them up.
Fair enough, but I'm stating that the practical effect will be the same if we don't heighten border security -- which I'm sure we agree on.
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6707

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

nukchebi0 wrote:

He lives in Southern California and is affected negatively by them.
Well, that's what I'm trying to get at - how is he "affected negatively by them"?

'Border security', or the lack thereof, are just concepts and concepts can do one no harm.
Concepts can do no harm?  Really?  What the are you smoking? By your logic, is war not a concept?
Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd
Member
+169|6747|Mexico City
yeah, yeah, insult all you want, but you will see that in a few decades the white people is gonna be a minority in the US, and considering you can have a black (with arab background) president, prepare to join the third world by next decade.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6602|132 and Bush

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

yeah, yeah, insult all you want, but you will see that in a few decades the white people is gonna be a minority in the US, and considering you can have a black (with arab background) president, prepare to join the third world by next decade.
Hold your breathe.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6325|New Haven, CT

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

yeah, yeah, insult all you want, but you will see that in a few decades the white people is gonna be a minority in the US, and considering you can have a black (with arab background) president, prepare to join the third world by next decade.
Will the majority "minorities" have better English than you?
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6530|Global Command

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

yeah, yeah, insult all you want, but you will see that in a few decades the white people is gonna be a minority in the US, and considering you can have a black (with arab background) president, prepare to join the third world by next decade.
If Mexico represented something I could admire, someplace safe to live, I'd be more prone to popping a Corona and letting chickens run loose in the backyard with you pal.

Mexico is a backward, corrupt toilet of a nation that general only exports its problems.

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