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simmy.uk wrote:

Is Christianity a load of bullshit, or is there any sense behind all of it?
Met a ton of christians recently and it kinda made me think about it.

You "met a ton of christians recently" and from that, you are now thinking about it?  Or because you met them, you are thinking they are not living their religion as you see it and suppose the religion is what's bad?  Just curious.


If you have questions about religion, where "should" you ask?  A game forum that's generally hostile towards religion?  Should you be asking your friends?  Your parents?  Maybe someone religious?  Maybe a religion's official website for their "official" doctrine and principles?

If you're serious about actually "knowing" if it's real or not, then yes, pick up a bible, read one of the first four books in the new testament (I recommend Luke), then attempt to make contact with the God that book claims exists.  If there is a supreme being, do you think he'd answer you if that's what he promises?  I would recommend reading, thinking about what you read, then asking for a supreme being to acknowledge you and answer your questions.  Taking ANY OTHER ROUTE shows you are truly NOT attempting to find out the truth.

Follow these guidelines for making your prayer/conversation with deity:
1) be in a pensive, relaxed, and quiet state.  turn off phones, be alone, and in quiet.
2) having just read about God's dealings with people in the Bible, ponder those things you just read..reason them out in your mind, the teachings, the inspirations you may have felt, even the things you didnt' understand.
3) then pray:  kneel if you'd like by the side of your bed or whatever. close your eyes and begin talking out loud.  since this is a conversation where you hope to receive a response, address the person you hope is there "dear god," etc.  then while believing that someone is actually listening to you, tell him that you have been reading and you don't understand some things, or that you want to know if those things are true, or that you want to know if he exists.  after asking the question, simply sit there and listen.  listen with your ears and really focus and pay attention to how you feel.  you'll know if it's you creating feelings or if it's God creating them.  chances are, you'll know where the answer comes from. 
4) if you make contact, keep at it and ask all the questions you can think of that are of worth to you in knowing. 

It's THAT easy.  But we're a difficult, complicated, stupid and stubborn people.  We're also scared of things we have no need to be scared of..this is why many people turn away from the truth, or hide from it and take comfort in surrounding themselves with non-religious people to assure themselves there is no such thing as god because they're cowards and don't have the balls to do the easy thing I described above...lacking balls and honesty with themselves.

simmy.uk wrote:

Is Christianity a load of bullshit, or is there any sense behind all of it?
Met a ton of christians recently and it kinda made me think about it.

Always held a scientific point of view that the world evolved over a long period of time and that 'god' didn't create everything in 7 days. That we evolved from apes, god didn't create humans....the adam and eve thing and such.

OK that might be the BS part of it, and perhaps the bit about Noahs ark.....but is there any truth in the other stuff? Is that even possible too? Can you be christian and hold a darwin view?

If I can be arsed I might read some of the bible to help make sense of all of this.
thoughts?

God spelt backwards is Dog.  I hope this helps.

simmy.uk wrote:

Can you be christian and hold a darwin view?

I do and so did the past four Popes.

S.Lythberg wrote:

Vilham wrote:

I still stand by my arguement that god being the ultimate being knows everything past, present and future and therefore knows certain people will do evil deeds before they do, in effect removing any form of free choice (you could say yeah but you choose to do a bad thing, but in the end that would be because of previous things in your life that make you that way, something god already knew about), God essentially makes people to go to hell. What a sick fuck.

In the old testament, God was quite the dick, he seems to have mellowed, or at least lost interest, by the new testament.

I take the Deist approach, that it is quite possible that a God created the universe, but he does not currently take an active role in it's day to day functioning.

If only you knew how incredibly retarded your comment was...like many of the religious pros on this forum. lol

simmy.uk wrote:

Yeah, but in responce to villham, if god knew you were gonna do an evil deed, being the all mighty all powerful setter of examples, would he not stop your evil deed?? I mean we are meant to be his children afterall??

I dunno, I got a copy of the biuble qwhich will hoefully arrive in the next few days. Gonnaread it cover to coer in the hope som eof these questions will be anserd/ Sorryfor typos little drunk.

cheers

No, God would not stop you because you have free will.  The fact that God knows all, does not mean He chooses to control all.  Again, free will.

Stingray24 wrote:

simmy.uk wrote:

Yeah, but in responce to villham, if god knew you were gonna do an evil deed, being the all mighty all powerful setter of examples, would he not stop your evil deed?? I mean we are meant to be his children afterall??

I dunno, I got a copy of the biuble qwhich will hoefully arrive in the next few days. Gonnaread it cover to coer in the hope som eof these questions will be anserd/ Sorryfor typos little drunk.

cheers

No, God would not stop you because you have free will.  The fact that God knows all, does not mean He chooses to control all.  Again, free will.

One of the defining arguments against religion is the question of free will. There are different interpretations, but god having a path/life for you contradicts free will.

I will admitt I have heard of alot of BS stories in bible, like the Noah ark thing. So i agree, don't take it all literally. I guess at the end of the day, you will never know fact from fiction, you make of it what you want.

Gonna read the bible cover to cover and make my own mind up then.

Yeah, it's true, ALL the stories in the bible have perfect explanations as we've all seen on history channel...everything is explained by "gas pockets" and tides...    And why stop at the idea that Jesus probably existed?  Nobody has any scientific proof?  Nobody has his Blockbuster card or his social security number!  Why believe he existed at all?  Like ALL the content of the bible, there isn't modern proof he existed, so it must ALL be false, right?

You people concede things because hey "there's lot's of Christians, so we'll give them that there must have been a "Jesus" person.  Or because the Egyptians have in their history the fleeing Israelites from captivity across the red sea, there must have been Israelites.  And because the Masada scrolls corroborate the writings of Isaiah, we have really pretty, poetic scriptural writings that we don't understand, so Isaiah must have lived.

It's maddening how foolish and arrogant smart people are cuz they googled a subject, read a wiki entry, or heard from a friend.  Nevermind the countless thousands, hundreds of thousands, possibly millions who've actually taken time to study a subject for more than 5 minutes, a semester, or while sitting on a toilet reading a magazine.  This forum is likewise full of said smart people and it's embarassing.