Dilbert_X wrote:
uziq wrote:
society has to extend the first olive branch in scenarios like this. it's the police who should be held to the most high and exacting standards, as public functionaries and representatives of 'the system'. you can't rely on the 'decency' of black folk to de-escalate the situation. christian dignity and decency haven't worked for them in hundreds of years.
Explain how pretty well every african country which has been shown how 'christian dignity and decency' works has reverted to savagery and criminality at the first opportunity.
again with the comparing the history of african-americans, an emancipated slave population who literally built up the extractive wealth and industrial base of the american state, with the history of africans ... thousands of miles away, affected by european colonialism and entirely different processes of historical change ...
they are NOT comparable at all. you seem to think someone in wisconsin should account for the state of burkina-faso. you are clearly fucking demented. do you take the state of russia as a savage indictment of the 'whites'? do you feel burning shame as a white person when there's a political scandal in canada? do you feel personally responsible to the world for donald trump and the direction of american democracy? so WHY do you judge african-americans based on the failure of post-colonial states in africa? MAKE SOME FUCKING SENSE.
which has been shown how 'christian dignity and decency' works
and i quite clearly was referring to the christian virtues of forbearance shown by the african-american community, who have often been the most devout and most observant of modern christian citizens, in their american context; the tropes of penitence and suffering as part of the civil rights movement, gospel church values, sunday attendance at church and so on, you know. i am not talking about the syncretic christianity pushed to africans in the colonial era. again, to any right-thinking person, this comparison would be INANE. obviously the christianity of a ugandan, where homosexuality is punishable by death, is of a totally different genesis and sort from that of an african-american baptist in illinois.
you remind me of a passage from orwell. this shit is already nearly 100 years old and you haven't moved on at all.
By ‘nationalism’ I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labelled ‘good’ or ‘bad’. But secondly – and this is much more important – I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognizing no other duty than that of advancing its interests [...] Nationalism is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.
As nearly as possible, no nationalist ever thinks, talks, or writes about anything except the superiority of his own power unit. It is difficult if not impossible for any nationalist to conceal his allegiance. The smallest slur upon his own unit, or any implied praise of a rival organization, fills him with uneasiness which he can only relieve by making some sharp retort. If the chosen unit is an actual country, such as Ireland or India, he will generally claim superiority for it not only in military power and political virtue, but in art, literature, sport, structure of the language, the physical beauty of the inhabitants, and perhaps even in climate, scenery and cooking.
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