Obama two years ago: Removing all US troops from Iraq by end of 2011

2011-07-11 03:28:33

#51

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Dilbert_X wrote:
You mean 'interim' as in Karzai?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … laims.html

How many more 'elections' will he hold before just not bothering?

article wrote:
12:05AM BST 10 Oct 2004

The United Nations-Afghan Joint Electoral Management Body (JEMB), which has overseen the elections, however said in a statement that the procedure was still valid and voting at the 25,000 polling stations should continue.

"Halting the voting at this point is unjustified and would deny individuals their fundamental right to vote," a spokesman said. Officials acknowledged, however, "some technical problems" and said candidates' complaints would be investigated.

First free elections in that country in decades, and you think there won't be glitches?

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2011-07-11 03:32:47

#52

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The 2009 presidential election in Afghanistan was characterized by lack of security, low voter turnout and widespread ballot stuffing, intimidation, and other electoral fraud.[1][2][3]

The vote, along with elections for 420 provincial council seats, took place on August 20, 2009, but remained unresolved during a lengthy period of vote counting and fraud investigation.[4]

Two months later, under heavy U.S. and ally pressure, a second round run-off vote between incumbent President Hamid Karzai and his main rival Abdullah Abdullah was announced for November 7, 2009. On November 1, however, Abdullah announced that he would no longer be participating in the run-off because his demands for changes in the electoral commission had not been met, and a "transparent election is not possible." A day later, on November 2, 2009, officials of the election commission cancelled the run-off and declared Hamid Karzai as President of Afghanistan for another 5 year term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_pre … tion,_2009

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2011-07-11 03:36:56

#53

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Yeah. I looked at the same page.

The biggest problem with that election was lack of security, which prevented monitors from getting in to all the areas. There was a thread about it at the time, IIRC. The worst vote count problems were in Taliban-controlled areas, which makes sense. How best to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the government you are fighting? Muck with the electoral process. That's why people weren't concerned about problems coming from Taliban-controlled/influenced areas--they knew what the Taliban were doing.

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2011-07-11 03:39:42

#54

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6120|eXtreme to the maX

So, ten years on, two flaky elections later and the US appointed 'interim' leader is still in power.

You can't see a problem?

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2011-07-11 03:42:09

#55

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Dilbert_X wrote:
So, ten years on, two flaky elections later and the US appointed 'interim' leader is still in power.

You can't see a problem?

Not when he's been elected by his people in internationally-supervised and approved elections.

Had the elections not been endorsed by objective third parties, you would have an argument. But they were. So you don't.

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2011-07-11 03:47:54

#56

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Lol Ok....

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2011-07-11 03:48:24

#57

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Next you'll be telling us Bush won fair and square.

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2011-07-11 04:04:02

#58

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Way to deflect when you have no counterargument.

And he did, actually. SCOTUS said so. As did multiple recounts.

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2011-07-11 06:14:16

#59

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6120|eXtreme to the maX

Whatever, Karzai didn't.

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2011-07-11 18:31:48

#60

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Dilbert_X wrote:
Whatever, Karzai didn't.

Go complain to the UN. The said the elections were valid.

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2011-07-12 01:40:00

#61

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Ban Ki Moon said they were, plenty disagreed.

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2011-07-12 02:43:25

#62

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Dilbert_X wrote:
Ban Ki Moon said they were, plenty disagreed.

Last time I checked, he's the SG of the UN, with a staff to help him out. You're done here.

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2011-07-12 02:47:46

#63

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I think Ban Ki is done.

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2011-07-12 02:50:20

#64

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If Kofi Annan could hang on for as long as he did with far more than just supposed incompetence against him, Ban Ki Moon is safe for a while.

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2011-07-12 02:53:10

#65

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6120|eXtreme to the maX

You just demolished your own argument - have you considered working for the Palin campaign?

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2011-07-12 02:58:40

#66

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Dilbert_X wrote:
You just demolished your own argument - have you considered working for the Palin campaign?

No, I didn't. Ban Ki Moon was brought in specifically because Kofi Annan was so corrupt. He's nothing at all like Annan. lrn2nuance.

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2011-07-12 03:15:43

#67

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,810|6120|eXtreme to the maX

If Kofi Annan was corrupt and survived as long as he did thats an indication that being SG of the UN isn't a guarantee of probity.

lrn2jointehdots

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2011-07-12 10:47:46

#68

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Noticing that Dilbert_X is still as big of a moron as he use to be. But seriously this was labelled under DST right?

2011-07-12 12:09:46

#69

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Ridir wrote:
Noticing that Dilbert_X is still as big of a moron as he use to be. But seriously this was labelled under DST right?

makes you wonder

2011-07-12 12:21:33

#70

1stSFOD-Delta: Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales; +376|5992|Blue Mountain State

being in iraq right now is like being in garrison

they can't even mount weapons on the trucks

https://www.itwirx.com/other/hksignature.jpg

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2011-07-12 12:22:20

#71

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1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
being in iraq right now is like being in garrison

they can't even mount weapons on the trucks

nice good ol clinton era rules

2011-07-12 12:26:46

#72

1stSFOD-Delta: Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales; +376|5992|Blue Mountain State

detroit is more dangerous than baghdad

Baba Booey

2011-07-12 12:27:26

#73

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this is true

2011-07-12 13:06:54

#74

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maybe now

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2011-07-12 13:07:11

#75

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1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
being in iraq right now is like being in garrison

they can't even mount weapons on the trucks

that is fucking insane

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