The_Sniper_NM
Official EVGA Fanboy
+94|6127|SC | USA |
Wow. He used a .22 rifle.

Sick fuck, hope he lives to rot in jail for 20 years then be executed. Dieing is the easy way out.

How an 89 year old could hit someone is beyond me.
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6660

Reciprocity wrote:

...hit von Brunn in the head with return fire.
nice shooting, officers.  headshots ain't easy.
And yet the old geezer lived. The hate must be strong with that one.
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6594|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

And yet the old geezer lived. The hate must be strong with that one.
a shot to the head doesn't guarantee death.   and that's if you hit the brain.  a lot of it can be mashed up without actually killing the person.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6614|132 and Bush

Reciprocity wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

And yet the old geezer lived. The hate must be strong with that one.
a shot to the head doesn't guarantee death.   and that's if you hit the brain.  a lot of it can be mashed up without actually killing the person.
Cue Phineas Gage and psychology 101.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
AutralianChainsaw
Member
+65|6212

Diesel_dyk wrote:

The guy is 88 years old...
Holy crap .. that number again..
imortal
Member
+240|6678|Austin, TX

Kmarion wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

And yet the old geezer lived. The hate must be strong with that one.
a shot to the head doesn't guarantee death.   and that's if you hit the brain.  a lot of it can be mashed up without actually killing the person.
Cue Phineas Gage and psychology 101.
Wasn't that a railroad spike or something equally gruesome?  Yes, off topic, I know.  There is actually only a small part of the brain that guarantees an instant death (the infamous "ragdoll").
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6482

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Diesel_dyk wrote:

The guy is 88 years old...
Holy crap .. that number again..
14/88, mean anything to you?
AutralianChainsaw
Member
+65|6212

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Diesel_dyk wrote:

The guy is 88 years old...
Holy crap .. that number again..
14/88, mean anything to you?
Not anymore.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6419|North Carolina

cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

it's the jews who control the media who will make a big deal out of it, if it was a....a mexican museum celebrating mexican.......achievement....(?) ok ok......different example needed, but still!
lol...

I'll give you one thing.  Sometimes, it feels like Jews want us to forget that more than just Jews died in the Holocaust.  Obviously, Jews were the single largest group to be killed, but we should also remember that Gypsies, political dissidents, homosexuals, and a few other groups were targeted as well.
wrong. holocaust/shoah only stands for the genocide of jews
"Some scholars maintain that the definition of the Holocaust should also include the Nazis' systematic murder of millions of people in other groups, including ethnic Poles, the Romani, Soviet civilians, Soviet prisoners of war, people with disabilities, gay men, and political and religious opponents, which would bring the total number of Holocaust victims to between 11 million and 17 million people."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6594|the dank(super) side of Oregon

imortal wrote:

There is actually only a small part of the brain that guarantees an instant death (the infamous "ragdoll").
that's the cerebellum, at the rear base of the brain.  if not instant death, instant coma, depending on what's left of the spinal cord.
rdx-fx
...
+955|6605
World War 2 deaths:
75 million total deaths worldwide resulting from WW-2
30 million Soviet/Russian dead (15% of their total population at the time)
20 million Chinese dead
6 million Jewish dead (3 million of those Polish Jewish)

Total number of dead, the Russians & Chinese took the brunt of the dying during WW-2.

Jewish took it a little more personally than the rest.
Methodical industrialized genocide apparently has that effect on a people.

Western (i.e. WW-2 Allied Forces) history books emphasize the Jewish holocaust.
I'd be curious to see how the Chinese and Russian history books tell the tale.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6614|132 and Bush

Rape of Nanking .. the other other extremely tragic event.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Lai
Member
+186|6164
His website: (cached)

His "farewell speech"
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6594|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Lai wrote:

His website: (cached)

His "farewell speech"
mel gibson would be proud.
Lai
Member
+186|6164

rdx-fx wrote:

World War 2 deaths:
75 million total deaths worldwide resulting from WW-2
30 million Soviet/Russian dead (15% of their total population at the time)
20 million Chinese dead
6 million Jewish dead (3 million of those Polish Jewish)

Total number of dead, the Russians & Chinese took the brunt of the dying during WW-2.

Jewish took it a little more personally than the rest.
Methodical industrialized genocide apparently has that effect on a people.

Western (i.e. WW-2 Allied Forces) history books emphasize the Jewish holocaust.
I'd be curious to see how the Chinese and Russian history books tell the tale.
At least in Russia WWII is referred to as the "Great Motherland War Part Deux", part une being AD 1812-1815. I think that about says it all. East-Asians in general have pretty good rememberance of WWII; just substitute Nazi's with Nips and you should be fine.
bogo24dk
Member
+26|6519
Well if hitler won the russian where as worse off as any minority :

Nazi theory regarding the Soviet Union

As early as 1925, Hitler made his intentions clear in Mein Kampf ("My Struggle") to invade the Soviet Union, based on his assertion that the German people needed Lebensraum ("living space", i.e. land and raw materials) and that it should be sought in the east. Nazi racial ideology cast the Soviet Union as populated by "untermenschen" ethnic Slavs ruled by their "Jewish Bolshevik" masters.[23][24] Mein Kampf stated that Germany's destiny was to turn "to the East" as it did "six hundred years later" and "the end of the Jewish domination in Russia will also be the end of Russia as a State."[25] Thereafter, Hitler spoke of an inescapable battle against "pan-Slav ideals", the victory in which would lead to "permanent mastery of the world", though he stated that they would "walk part of the road with the Russians, if that will help us."[26] Accordingly, it was the stated policy of the Nazis to kill, deport or enslave the Russian and other Slavic populations and to repopulate the land with Germanic peoples (see New Order).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa


To imply that only jews suffered under ww 2 is absolutely ignorant and missleading.
cl4u53w1t2
Salon-Bolschewist
+269|6486|Kakanien

rdx-fx wrote:

World War 2 deaths:
75 million total deaths worldwide resulting from WW-2
this figure is too high

total deaths in ww2 were about 50-55 million

(don't get me wrong, this doesn't make it any better)
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6162|'straya

cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

rdx-fx wrote:

World War 2 deaths:
75 million total deaths worldwide resulting from WW-2
this figure is too high

total deaths in ww2 were about 50-55 million

(don't get me wrong, this doesn't make it any better)
Although there were a lot of deaths not directly related to combat etc, that can be attributed.
cl4u53w1t2
Salon-Bolschewist
+269|6486|Kakanien

Turquoise wrote:

cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


lol...

I'll give you one thing.  Sometimes, it feels like Jews want us to forget that more than just Jews died in the Holocaust.  Obviously, Jews were the single largest group to be killed, but we should also remember that Gypsies, political dissidents, homosexuals, and a few other groups were targeted as well.
wrong. holocaust/shoah only stands for the genocide of jews
"Some scholars maintain that the definition of the Holocaust should also include the Nazis' systematic murder of millions of people in other groups, including ethnic Poles, the Romani, Soviet civilians, Soviet prisoners of war, people with disabilities, gay men, and political and religious opponents, which would bring the total number of Holocaust victims to between 11 million and 17 million people."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
most scholars see the porajmos as part of the holocaust (roma-holocaust), but not the murder of other groups (slavs, handicapped, communists, homosexuals etc.)
cl4u53w1t2
Salon-Bolschewist
+269|6486|Kakanien

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

rdx-fx wrote:

World War 2 deaths:
75 million total deaths worldwide resulting from WW-2
this figure is too high

total deaths in ww2 were about 50-55 million

(don't get me wrong, this doesn't make it any better)
Although there were a lot of deaths not directly related to combat etc, that can be attributed.
they were

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm#Second
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6595|SE London

cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

cl4u53w1t2 wrote:


this figure is too high

total deaths in ww2 were about 50-55 million

(don't get me wrong, this doesn't make it any better)
Although there were a lot of deaths not directly related to combat etc, that can be attributed.
they were

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm#Second
Several of the sources your source has used suggest a death toll of ~75 million. Brzezinski says 71M, Rummel says 84M. Many estimates start from '39 not '37 - and the Chinese civilian death toll is highly disputed.

75 million is a perfectly decent figure that many experts would agree with.
cl4u53w1t2
Salon-Bolschewist
+269|6486|Kakanien
"AVERAGE

    * The MEDIAN of these estimates is 50M.
    * If we add up the country-by-country medians (of total death tolls) we get:
          o LEVEL 1: 47.35M
                + USSR: 20.0M
                + China: 10.45M
                + Poland: 5.8M
                + Germany: 5.5M
                + India: 2.15M
                + Japan: 1.9M
                + Yugoslavia: 1.55M
          o LEVEL 2: ca. 3.8M
          o LEVEL 3: ca. 0.25M
          o TOTAL: 51.4M"
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6595|SE London

cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

"AVERAGE

    * The MEDIAN of these estimates is 50M.
    * If we add up the country-by-country medians (of total death tolls) we get:
          o LEVEL 1: 47.35M
                + USSR: 20.0M
                + China: 10.45M
                + Poland: 5.8M
                + Germany: 5.5M
                + India: 2.15M
                + Japan: 1.9M
                + Yugoslavia: 1.55M
          o LEVEL 2: ca. 3.8M
          o LEVEL 3: ca. 0.25M
          o TOTAL: 51.4M"
So?

Doesn't change the fact that many of the figures are highly disputed and many experts would agree that 75M is a perfectly reasonable estimate - as your link so helpfully demonstrated. Chastising him for getting an estimate wrong, when many experts would agree with him, seems a little churlish.
cl4u53w1t2
Salon-Bolschewist
+269|6486|Kakanien

Bertster7 wrote:

cl4u53w1t2 wrote:

"AVERAGE

    * The MEDIAN of these estimates is 50M.
    * If we add up the country-by-country medians (of total death tolls) we get:
          o LEVEL 1: 47.35M
                + USSR: 20.0M
                + China: 10.45M
                + Poland: 5.8M
                + Germany: 5.5M
                + India: 2.15M
                + Japan: 1.9M
                + Yugoslavia: 1.55M
          o LEVEL 2: ca. 3.8M
          o LEVEL 3: ca. 0.25M
          o TOTAL: 51.4M"
So?

Doesn't change the fact that many of the figures are highly disputed and many experts would agree that 75M is a perfectly reasonable estimate - as your link so helpfully demonstrated. Chastising him for getting an estimate wrong, when many experts would agree with him, seems a little churlish.
quote: "Most historians agree that the death toll was about 50 million (including wartime atrocities)"
some_random_panda
Flamesuit essential
+454|6404

The_Sniper_NM wrote:

Wow. He used a .22 rifle.

Sick fuck, hope he lives to rot in jail for 20 years then be executed. Dieing is the easy way out.

How an 89 year old could hit someone is beyond me.
What's so sick about a .22?

I don't know anything about calibre sizes, so I have no idea.

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